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Quote from: Jasad on June 03, 2016, 02:38:10 AM

Quote from: amarjoss on June 01, 2016, 08:38:21 PM

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

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Waalaikumsalam..
welcome to the forum and on bitcoin world,yes that's was some ways to earn bitcoin with unsafe and harmfull way and against Islam rules,its why i'm not invest on hyip,ponzi or gambling,just earn bitcoin from good ways,you will find some,like signature campaign,cloud mining,or faucet.

How about earning bitcoin from gambling site like you are just doing now with your signature? Is it allowed by your religion?

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Quote from: amarjoss on June 01, 2016, 08:38:21 PM

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin

wa'alaikumsalam. as far as I know it's not Riba, but don't do gambling, HYIP, PONZI or bet. it's not halal. I think you know why.

I see some threads in Indonesian section, if I'm not mistaken, talking about "Is bitcoin halal or not".

A few months ago I got news that MUI stated that bitcoin is haram because of 6 things, but 2 of them are wrong. So keep reading books about " fiqih jual-beli". So you will get answer.

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on June 02, 2016, 01:33:16 AM

I always get nervous trading with names like Muhammad for fear of it being terrorist shit... not to be racist or anything.

Seems to me you've been heavily influenced by media.

Really. Stop listening to the media. Especially when they try to tell you it has "nothing to do with Islam" everytime someone Allahu Ackbars and kills a bunch of cartoonists.

Quote from: mki8 on June 03, 2016, 12:07:25 AM

BUT TAKE NOTE:

Bitcoin does not discriminate,
Bitcoin is for everyone

There is no place for religion/racism or PC in bitcoin.

This is the best point in the thread. Bitcoin is for everyone. It only cares if your signatures check out and you paid the fee. You could be a Muslim, a different kind of Muslim, or belong to one of the many non-Islamic faiths that Islam has spent centuries trying to exterminate.

For example, I am a follower of Manāt, the pre-Arabian Goddess of Fate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%C4%81t

Bitcoin is very popular among followers of Manāt. I pray to Manāt daily for the bitcoin price to rise and for victory over the current and historic enemies of Manāt. Many racists out their say bad things about Manāt and her followers, because they are racist and ignorant. Enlightened and educated people know that followers of Manāt are ultimately peaceful people, who love Bitcoin, and that her enemies will ultimately be destroyed as completely as crypto will destroy fiat.

Peace be upon Manāt, peace be upon all of her sisters, and peace be upon all of you.

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Quote from: Oralmat on June 03, 2016, 07:56:35 AM

Quote from: amarjoss on June 01, 2016, 08:38:21 PM

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin

Wallaikumsalam
I m also Muslim, and i m surprise too see that you are from Indonesia.
Are Indonesian Muslims? and you know very well about Islam.
My Answer is every currency is halal, the way how you can earn it, it will be count . I mean if you earn it in a illegal way that is not good for us. otherwise you are doing work in the right way and than you earn (any currency) like bitcoin. so it is halal for us.
Just like i m doing a work in Bitcointalk and i m earning so it is a good way for me.
Otherwise God better know than me.

LOL , Indonesia is THE largest Moslim country in the World

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Quote from: amarjoss on June 01, 2016, 08:38:21 PM

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin

Wallaikumsalam
I m also Muslim, and i m surprise too see that you are from Indonesia.
Are Indonesian Muslims? and you know very well about Islam.
My Answer is every currency is halal, the way how you can earn it, it will be count . I mean if you earn it in a illegal way that is not good for us. otherwise you are doing work in the right way and than you earn (any currency) like bitcoin. so it is halal for us.
Just like i m doing a work in Bitcointalk and i m earning so it is a good way for me.
Otherwise God better know than me.

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Quote from: amarjoss on June 01, 2016, 08:38:21 PM

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin

in my opinion, well there are a lot of things that you can do to earn bitcoin beside gambling or join HYIP and ponzi site , you can try to service section and develop your skill in there , or you can try trading ,

if me honestly i'm gambling too Grin

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So you allowed to trade with Bitcoin, but you not allowed to earn interest from the currency you use? Interresting So what happens with volatility, if the price goes up? Is this not seen as interest? Do your religion prohibit interest from commodities too or only from commodities where illegal goods are concerned?

Sound very complex and restrictive to me. ^hmmmmm^

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Quote from: amarjoss on June 01, 2016, 08:38:21 PM

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin

"Aleyküm selam ve rahmetullahi ve berekatuhu"

I'm a Muslim too and i choose carefully what i want to, what do i advertise, how I'm earning the money etc.
First of all i would suggest you to stay away from betting, gambling, loans (with interest) because these are prohibited.
Trading bitcoin is allowed as it is allowed to trade cash in real life (this is how i understand it), exchanging bitcoins etc.

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Quote from: capedbaldy on June 03, 2016, 03:20:39 AM

Quote from: bitkilo on June 01, 2016, 08:54:35 PM

What is RIBA?

Muslim bitcoiners are great when you guys get involved in the lending business, interest free loans!

you just said it, loan with interest is also riba

but in todays date, muslims are don't care about riba, about haram and halal, they do anything for money.. I know lots of muslims who play gambling and giving taking loan, even this is allowed in every muslims country and their banks as well, muslims are don't care about these things,..
but seeing lots of muslims in bitcoin industry is very good,

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Quote from: bitkilo on June 01, 2016, 08:54:35 PM

What is RIBA?

Muslim bitcoiners are great when you guys get involved in the lending business, interest free loans!

you just said it, loan with interest is also riba

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Quote from: Raja_MBZ on June 02, 2016, 02:19:03 PM

Quote from: kaltun on June 02, 2016, 02:09:42 PM

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on June 02, 2016, 01:57:05 PM

It's all good in Islam, IMO. I don't think it's Haram, as it's a currency. But make sure that you don't gamble or earn interest through different HYIP's/Ponzis, and God knows much better.

Now, you should CLOSE this thread. It can get much worse and off-topic.

what i sayed before, if you going to speculate , buying low and selling high , it is gambling en you know how Islam thinks about gambling.
only mining not Haram cause it is work

Of course, that's totally sort of forex trading, and it's not allowed in Islam. Forgot to add that, pretty bad of me.

Warning again, this thread could get much worse if not closed.

Fuck you if you denounce Allah! You and your family will suffer a horrible fate if you don't change your ways now. Allah Akbar.

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Quote from: amarjoss on June 01, 2016, 08:38:21 PM

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin

Waalaikumsalam..
welcome to the forum and on bitcoin world,yes that's was some ways to earn bitcoin with unsafe and harmfull way and against Islam rules,its why i'm not invest on hyip,ponzi or gambling,just earn bitcoin from good ways,you will find some,like signature campaign,cloud mining,or faucet.

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Just treat bitcoin like money, if you earn it by bad ways, then that would be a sin.

Sorry, but I guess this thread belongs to Politic & Society board. Trust to me, you can find the best answers there, especially religion matter.

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Quote from: sbtctalk on June 02, 2016, 01:28:36 AM

Oh please don't get religion involved in Bitcoin. Can the mods please remove this discussion?

have you reported this thread yet ?
this thread should be removed for a few reasons
but mainly religion has no place here at all, regardless of whats being asked

MODS REMOVE THIS THREAD

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The OP is basically asking,
is scamming people with bitcoin against his religion.
bitcoin is a currency so any religious rules apply to it the same as other money, for those that belive in religion.

BUT TAKE NOTE:

Bitcoin does not discriminate,
Bitcoin is for everyone

There is no place for religion/racism or PC in bitcoin.

Most posts in this thread should be deleted.

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Quote from: amarjoss on June 01, 2016, 08:38:21 PM

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin

Welcome to bitcoin! Gambling and ponzi games don't bother me because you know up front that they are games that are high risk. But scams like the ones pulled by mtgox and cryptsy are the real problem. Cryptsy stole some of my bitcoins and a lot of other people are in the same situation. Be careful putting money in exchanges.

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Dear my muslim brothers, no matter what they say about us, especially negative perspective just ignore them. Because if we pay attention just make them more eager to drop us. We know that our religion not teaching like they said, so do not feel it. offended pins feel.

I will not close or even remove this post, because there a so many muslim need to discuss this case.

btw sorry for my english. CMIIW

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Its actually good to have discussions of this sort.Gives me a clear view of people using bitcoins from different parts of the World.Also ,never know a technology can be considered as Haram.

not the technology but making profits from non work is by my opinon haram, such as By speculating or gambling on the stock exchange --> haram
mining of a coin and selling them --> not haram --> again my opinon.

again ALLAH knows better

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@OP : Why gel technology and religion together ? They are two separate things ,without technology there are no advancements.Religion is big obstruction ,restricting people from crossing their ethical borders.

Quote from: RawDog on June 02, 2016, 01:33:48 PM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on June 02, 2016, 01:33:16 AM

I always get nervous trading with names like Muhammad for fear of it being terrorist shit... not to be racist or anything.

No shit! I sure don't want a fucking bomb sent to my computer with some bitcoin! Fuck that.

That is very racist.How can you even judge by person by their name ? Not every Muslim dealing with bitcoins is an ISIS anyway.

Quote from: hawkins on June 02, 2016, 01:50:29 PM

Waalaikumsalam
I was a Muslim and I was bitcoiners, I am currently trying to collect a lot of bitcoin in preparation for Ramadan, this makes me very excited Grin

was* did you change your religion ? Why ? What does bitcoins has to do with Ramadan ? Can you buy Ramadan stuff using bitcoins ? Roll Eyes

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on June 02, 2016, 01:57:05 PM

It's all good in Islam, IMO. I don't think it's Haram, as it's a currency. But make sure that you don't gamble or earn interest through different HYIP's/Ponzis, and God knows much better.
Now, you should CLOSE this thread. It can get much worse and off-topic.

Its actually good to have discussions of this sort.Gives me a clear view of people using bitcoins from different parts of the World.Also ,never know a technology can be considered as Haram.

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so many muslims i personally know who are envolved with bitcoin. i am also a muslim. i have so many friends who have invested money here in bicoin. i investigage about bitcoin from molvies. acording to them bitcoin is halal

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