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legendary
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September 19, 2017, 10:06:35 AM
#30
The question is when to sell of course. Because eventually you do have to sell something to realize any profits. My strategy is outlined below, let me know what you think and feel free to share yours. Mine has not been tested as I'm still fairly new to trading and should not be taken as investment advice.
First and foremost, i only invest with money i can afford to lose and only into projects i have throughly researched.  What I plan to do is buy  and hodl until the price is 2X. Then sell half, essentially giving me back my initial investment, anything I sell afterward is pure profit.

Ok. Let me play the "devil's advocate" and tell you why your plan might not be as good as you think. You said you are a newbie, how will you know if your research is good. Are you technically qualified to judge one project as good or bad?

What if you the coin you are holding does not go up but instead goes down?
 
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I hodl again until  the price reaches 10X. Then sell 20%, giving me a 100% return on my investment again. This would be my first actual profit. I hodl again until the price reaches 100X. Then sell 20% again, giving me a 800% return on my investment.
 I hodl again until the price reaches 1000X. Then sell half my remaining balance, giving me a 1600% return on my investment. At this point I would still retain 16% of my original balance and have recieved a 169X return overall on my investment. Obviously I would have to get in early on a coin/asset and still then wait years potentially to see the returns I want. I'd have my stop loss set at 75% of the orginal price until my first selling at 2X and 50% of the original price there after.

So that's my plan, how's it sound? Obviously I could hodl for the 1000X the entire time, but I feel this is a nice way to lock in some profit early while still holding for the long haul.


It does not look like a sound plan because you are assuming that the coin you will be buying will only go up.
legendary
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September 19, 2017, 09:27:04 AM
#29
First and foremost, i only invest with money i can afford to lose and only into projects i have throughly researched. 

This sounds perfect.

I hodl again until  the price reaches 10X. Then sell 20%, giving me a 100% return on my investment again. This would be my first actual profit. I hodl again until the price reaches 100X. Then sell 20% again, giving me a 800% return on my investment.
 I hodl again until the price reaches 1000X. Then sell half my remaining balance, giving me a 1600% return on my investment. At this point I would still retain 16% of my original balance and have recieved a 169X return overall on my investment. Obviously I would have to get in early on a coin/asset and still then wait years potentially to see the returns I want. I'd have my stop loss set at 75% of the orginal price until my first selling at 2X and 50% of the original price there after.

So that's my plan, how's it sound? Obviously I could hodl for the 1000X the entire time, but I feel this is a nice way to lock in some profit early while still holding for the long haul.

This may have a flaw. "Rinse and repeat" strategies sooner or later do fall. Of course, you're on profit and you afford that, but it's better to stop earlier.
First of all I'd start with a strategy for step 1 that stops earlier than 10x and gets the investment back without profit or small one. Like 5-6x and cash out 20%.

After this I'd make more tangible targets: buy this, buy that (car, property, name it). When the value of an asset grows beyond that keep a part of it as future investment and buy the thing you need.
This make sure you get some earning even before 100x.

If you diversify enough, this is already enough. 1000x is imho too big to be set as a target.
sr. member
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September 19, 2017, 09:17:45 AM
#28
Every trader has a style, I really like your trading concept. I guess i would try to do that. The trading style is very safe, and gives a higher profit. The only key is patience, HODL. Thanks for sharing.

Did you experience already to have a coin in your hand that reach 100X ROI?
legendary
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September 19, 2017, 09:06:23 AM
#27
I'm really more of a holder, because I believe in bitcoin, but I understand the need of getting some profit, just in case we are wrong.
But if you really want to trade, and I'm not saying that you plan is wrong, I don't understand why you are selling when the price is going up. I mean, if you are not planning on reentering the market, why you have so many exit points? You are assuming that the market will continue to move up, and you are planning on selling some, just to get some profit. But if your prediction is of such a positive trend, then you should just hold all the way through, and start slowly selling on a negative trend, and not on a positive trend (and this on not necessarily a loss, because the price could be dropping from a very long positive trend and from new highs).
full member
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A non technical guy in a technical world
September 19, 2017, 08:43:21 AM
#26
Once I buy crypto, I just tell myself it money lost, so don't worry about it. Then when I cash out it feels like the damn lottery (a smart lottery)
jr. member
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September 19, 2017, 03:06:33 AM
#25
Sounds like a great plan. The real pain people feel when investing is losing their initial investment. So cashing that out and taking profits regularly means you are always in profit and ahead of the game. And you can always use some of your profits to buy the dips so that you always hold the same amount of coins.
For sure what you have decided and you made a plan regarding it, seems so nice. The business things must be in control and you have to make a way for their better and straight movement. That is the bigger fear you are talking about, so better you are if you have found a strong solution to it.
sr. member
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September 18, 2017, 12:32:17 AM
#24
I do HODL for most of the token that I am planning to keep it long term.
I dont care if price is dropping.
For some coin I do buy and sell, not HODL.
I think it is the best option to HODL,.... not to every of your coin you do HODL.
full member
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September 17, 2017, 11:29:53 PM
#23
Thank you OP for sharing your strategy. As someone new to crypto currency it is nice to read other people's thoughts.

I don't think I would have the patience to do all the trades you mentioned at such specific milestones and percentages, but I have written it down as an idea. At first I thought about simply buying during an ICO, holding long term and eventually selling for a good profit, but i do like the idea of selling half of what you purchased once the price is 2x in order to recover your original investment and not be at a loss . Then I can just HODL the remaining as a long term investment or work around the strategy you shared. Will probably be applying this soon!
sr. member
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September 17, 2017, 10:34:09 PM
#22
Oh! you have so much patience in the matter of profits. Being true,i have never got 2x from my investments till yet.
I hold and then sell when i see i have accumulated 15%-20 profit.Similarly half of my base amount remains there. I have no policy designed to achieve a major return.
Patience is really important. I am a trader and I want to improve my trading skill by developing my patience. I created many bad decision because I don't have enough patience.
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September 17, 2017, 10:21:16 PM
#21
The question is when to sell of course. Because eventually you do have to sell something to realize any profits. My strategy is outlined below, let me know what you think and feel free to share yours. Mine has not been tested as I'm still fairly new to trading and should not be taken as investment advice.
First and foremost, i only invest with money i can afford to lose and only into projects i have throughly researched.  What I plan to do is buy  and hodl until the price is 2X. Then sell half, essentially giving me back my initial investment, anything I sell afterward is pure profit.
I hodl again until  the price reaches 10X. Then sell 20%, giving me a 100% return on my investment again. This would be my first actual profit. I hodl again until the price reaches 100X. Then sell 20% again, giving me a 800% return on my investment.
 I hodl again until the price reaches 1000X. Then sell half my remaining balance, giving me a 1600% return on my investment. At this point I would still retain 16% of my original balance and have recieved a 169X return overall on my investment. Obviously I would have to get in early on a coin/asset and still then wait years potentially to see the returns I want. I'd have my stop loss set at 75% of the orginal price until my first selling at 2X and 50% of the original price there after.

So that's my plan, how's it sound? Obviously I could hodl for the 1000X the entire time, but I feel this is a nice way to lock in some profit early while still holding for the long haul.


That strategy would really works always keep on mine your target goal. Basically the success of a trader is based on the financial goals his looking up to but not all goals can be reached some becomes negative so it would be better to understand the flow of each coins and don't just stick to only one currency to be able to overcome losses.
sr. member
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September 17, 2017, 10:10:40 PM
#20
The question is when to sell of course. Because eventually you do have to sell something to realize any profits. My strategy is outlined below, let me know what you think and feel free to share yours. Mine has not been tested as I'm still fairly new to trading and should not be taken as investment advice.
First and foremost, i only invest with money i can afford to lose and only into projects i have throughly researched.  What I plan to do is buy  and hodl until the price is 2X. Then sell half, essentially giving me back my initial investment, anything I sell afterward is pure profit.
I hodl again until  the price reaches 10X. Then sell 20%, giving me a 100% return on my investment again. This would be my first actual profit. I hodl again until the price reaches 100X. Then sell 20% again, giving me a 800% return on my investment.
 I hodl again until the price reaches 1000X. Then sell half my remaining balance, giving me a 1600% return on my investment. At this point I would still retain 16% of my original balance and have recieved a 169X return overall on my investment. Obviously I would have to get in early on a coin/asset and still then wait years potentially to see the returns I want. I'd have my stop loss set at 75% of the orginal price until my first selling at 2X and 50% of the original price there after.

So that's my plan, how's it sound? Obviously I could hodl for the 1000X the entire time, but I feel this is a nice way to lock in some profit early while still holding for the long haul.

I like your strategy, but you only talk if the price increases up to several times, I wonder what would you do if the price throws away? will you teus do hodl and ready to lose? or you will do cut lose?
hero member
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September 17, 2017, 09:42:54 PM
#19
hodling is a good enough for us to make big profit in the long term. i have many coins which i still save in my wallet from last years and i am not selling right now, at least i am waiting the next highest price. i think you can do your plan and you can expecting to make big profit too while i see your plan is good but you need to manage your emotion when somehow the price is suddenly down to deep.

we are seeing the price is up to 100% in a few months ago and in that time, altcoin is going to be party but suddenly, bitcoin price is up and altcoin is down again and not yet reach the highest price until now. i think when the time is come, altcoin will be party again and many of us is selling at the highest price.
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legendary
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September 17, 2017, 07:57:40 PM
#18
This is a great strategy if you could pull it off. The only issue is that, how certain are you that the coin you picked will reach up to 800% gains? I hope not, but who knows the coin you picked might just simply fall off coinmarketcap and become irrelevant after a year or so? That's why investing in cryptocurrencies always has a somewhat gambling aspect.

It's a pretty solid plan though. You just need to buy the right coins in the right time.

Well, that depends on your target. Bitcoin can double it's price or even more. Some traders HODL bitcoin for years hoping that bitcoin could gain huge value in the future. Some expecting bitcoin price at $10,000.a piece. That's possible since bitcoin just doubled it's price this year. It's just drops because of actions of China and continuous sprewding FUDs against Bitcoin. Some are just day trade bitcoin because it's fluctuating a bit. They could easily get some $$$. Some are trading bitcoin from altcoin market to get more bitcoin and then HODL.

I'm not saying you shouldn't invest in bitcoin, but investing in certain altcoins has way more potential for bigger profits. It's just simply high risk high reward though.
full member
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September 17, 2017, 07:26:05 PM
#17
I HODL the coin or token that I specifically to have it in long term,
some coins are only for trading so I do not really HODL it.
I actually keep it for about 3-9 months but nt really HODL.

I think any coins are actually likely very good to HODL.
sr. member
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September 17, 2017, 07:18:41 PM
#16
Well, that depends on your target. Bitcoin can double it's price or even more. Some traders HODL bitcoin for years hoping that bitcoin could gain huge value in the future. Some expecting bitcoin price at $10,000.a piece. That's possible since bitcoin just doubled it's price this year. It's just drops because of actions of China and continuous sprewding FUDs against Bitcoin. Some are just day trade bitcoin because it's fluctuating a bit. They could easily get some $$$. Some are trading bitcoin from altcoin market to get more bitcoin and then HODL.
sr. member
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September 17, 2017, 07:00:10 PM
#15
Sounds like a plan to me, anyways we actually have the same plan on the first part when you said you'll buy and hold until the price increases twice then sell half of it which is to take the capital but we differ on the profit that is left, mine I just left it there and since the price of bitcoin and other altcoins are dropping eventually it isn't moving yet but I was planning to hold them for like 4-5 years and see how much they gained. Since I don't need the money yet then I guess it'll just stay there for a while.
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A non technical guy in a technical world
September 17, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
#14
I have another the same problem. It's easier me to trade altcoin then Bitcoin.
hero member
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September 17, 2017, 04:37:26 PM
#13
The question is when to sell of course. Because eventually you do have to sell something to realize any profits. My strategy is outlined below, let me know what you think and feel free to share yours. Mine has not been tested as I'm still fairly new to trading and should not be taken as investment advice.
First and foremost, i only invest with money i can afford to lose and only into projects i have throughly researched.  What I plan to do is buy  and hodl until the price is 2X. Then sell half, essentially giving me back my initial investment, anything I sell afterward is pure profit.
I hodl again until  the price reaches 10X. Then sell 20%, giving me a 100% return on my investment again. This would be my first actual profit. I hodl again until the price reaches 100X. Then sell 20% again, giving me a 800% return on my investment.
 I hodl again until the price reaches 1000X. Then sell half my remaining balance, giving me a 1600% return on my investment. At this point I would still retain 16% of my original balance and have recieved a 169X return overall on my investment. Obviously I would have to get in early on a coin/asset and still then wait years potentially to see the returns I want. I'd have my stop loss set at 75% of the orginal price until my first selling at 2X and 50% of the original price there after.

So that's my plan, how's it sound? Obviously I could hodl for the 1000X the entire time, but I feel this is a nice way to lock in some profit early while still holding for the long haul.


I'm transitioning from trading Bitcoins to holding Bitcoins because the price is getting too high and the fluctuations are getting too unpredictable. I traded Bitcoin for a while when the price was under $1000 and it seemed to work pretty well for a while.

The recent gains from $1000 to $5000 in a short period of time make it very hard to trade effectively. Some people may be able to do it successfully but I find that I miss the big increases if I sell too soon. I'm content to trade altcoins and hold Bitcoins. I'll just hold for long term and hope for at least a 10 fold increase in several years.
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September 17, 2017, 04:34:19 PM
#12
I think neo has had it's day. At least for a while. I remember when it was antshares and $1.73 in price. I kept saying I needed to buy when it dropped. It never did. Least til it hit $50
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September 17, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
#11
Thanks OP, easy plan there

I will try this with NEO right away
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