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legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
January 06, 2013, 03:35:37 AM
#44
For someone who believes that bitcoin has so much potential, you would think Luke-jr would be busy enough developing for bitcoin as opposed to editing other cryptocoin's wikis.

Talk about a hypocrit. lol  Cheesy
legendary
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Ron Gross
January 06, 2013, 12:41:16 AM
#43
FYI, I pmed kiba asking him to ban luke-jr from the wiki, or at least lock some pages (after luke's edits are reverted).
Locking is a bad solution because it shuts down everyone's ability to edit ... not really a solution.
legendary
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January 05, 2013, 12:23:15 PM
#42
You're right, it's quite simple solution. Cheesy

P.S.

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legendary
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Ron Gross
January 05, 2013, 12:18:16 PM
#41
I'm completely disappointed. It's sad that one immature guy can create so many problems.

Lower your expectations then.
legendary
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January 05, 2013, 12:16:35 PM
#40
I'm completely disappointed. It's sad that one immature guy can create so many problems.
legendary
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Ron Gross
January 05, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
#39
Luke needs to be banned from the wiki.
Link for the latest vandalism by Luke.
legendary
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legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
January 03, 2013, 09:49:53 AM
#37
I don't think that the "problem" lies with alt-chains here, but something else.
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January 03, 2013, 12:26:50 AM
#36
We all know that Luke is being biased towards Bitcoin. What he puts degrades alternate coins, and tries to glamorize Bitcoin like as if it's the best currency in the world with no flaws. Why doesn't he try to fix those problems before he gets more people to use Bitcoin? Because he doesn't know how! A neutral party? No such thing, most of the people here are strict Bitcoin fanatics, or a decent reasonable person from the alternate chains.

It looks more like Luke-jr is suggesting that BitCoin clones should try and achieve some useful purpose. He is not saying they should not be created. It's entirely false to state that his text 'degrades alternate coins' or that he 'tries to glamorize Bitcoin like as if it's the best currency in the world with no flaws'. He clearly states it has flaws when he says 'There are a number of flaws with Bitcoin that cannot be corrected without a "hard fork"'.

You are arguing against the man ( luke-jr ) not the text he added to the wiki page.


Gay marriage has nothing to do with this, I can't imagine why you mentioned it.


The problem isn't with the argument that alt-chains are a valid way to improve Bitcoin - yes they are.
The problem IS that he's arguing that's the ONLY valid reason for an alt-coin to exist.
legendary
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/dev/null
January 02, 2013, 07:56:55 PM
#35
Oh wow.

But shouldn't he take that on with Erik?
Wait! Apparently he does: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Erik_Voorhees (In his own way)



This has much potential, I haven't had this of a chuckle since the brief period Atlas was allowed to post again.

Actually, to be blunt, the guy is simply making a fool of Bitcoin.

He posts personal opinions all over the Bitcoin wiki - to the point where it isn't much use as a reliable, objective wiki.

A lot of what he has posted would be automatically revoked by the rules of the original wikipedia

Personal opinions are not the point of a public wiki about Bitcoin - and his personal opinions just make Bitcoin look foolish.

I'll give yet another example of it related to something I'm involved in (of course) cgminer:
https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&action=historysubmit&diff=31023&oldid=30982

Yes the guy is complete fail.
But I consider the wiki itself not worth making any effort on due to crap like this thread points out, so I've never bothered to try to get undone that crap change he did.

Edit: Or the previous change where he simply removed cgminer:
https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&action=historysubmit&diff=28709&oldid=28414
worst part is core devs do agree with such things...
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
January 02, 2013, 07:48:07 PM
#34
Oh wow.

But shouldn't he take that on with Erik?
Wait! Apparently he does: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Erik_Voorhees (In his own way)



This has much potential, I haven't had this of a chuckle since the brief period Atlas was allowed to post again.

Actually, to be blunt, the guy is simply making a fool of Bitcoin.

He posts personal opinions all over the Bitcoin wiki - to the point where it isn't much use as a reliable, objective wiki.

A lot of what he has posted would be automatically revoked by the rules of the original wikipedia

Personal opinions are not the point of a public wiki about Bitcoin - and his personal opinions just make Bitcoin look foolish.

I'll give yet another example of it related to something I'm involved in (of course) cgminer:
https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&action=historysubmit&diff=31023&oldid=30982

Yes the guy is complete fail.
But I consider the wiki itself not worth making any effort on due to crap like this thread points out, so I've never bothered to try to get undone that crap change he did.

Edit: Or the previous change where he simply removed cgminer:
https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&action=historysubmit&diff=28709&oldid=28414
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
January 02, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
#33
or maybe just revoke Luke-Jr's permissions for the wiki...
Sorry - doesn't work.
We banned him from the #cgminer IRC channel but he stalks it anyway under other names and hidden connections.
sd
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January 02, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
#32
So... maybe https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tonal_Bitcoin  needs some editing in the same spirit that he's editing other pages...
 Roll Eyes

Tonal makes perfect sense to anyone who can count to 16 on their fingers. Maybe some of the denizens of alternate cryptocurrencies would find it a useful feature.

It should be easy enough to get the client to report in any arbitrary base, although it would be a completely pointless exercise.
legendary
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1davout
January 02, 2013, 03:32:09 PM
#31
So... maybe https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tonal_Bitcoin  needs some editing in the same spirit that he's editing other pages...
Hahahah, oh yes please.
legendary
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/dev/null
January 02, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
#30
or maybe just revoke Luke-Jr's permissions for the wiki...
legendary
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Chief Scientist
January 02, 2013, 03:05:19 PM
#29
So... maybe https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tonal_Bitcoin  needs some editing in the same spirit that he's editing other pages...
 Roll Eyes

(darn, nanotube protected it...)
(ps to nanotube: that page should be deleted, in my humble opinion)
legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
January 02, 2013, 02:29:12 PM
#28
Oh wow.

But shouldn't he take that on with Erik?
Wait! Apparently he does: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Erik_Voorhees (In his own way)



This has much potential, I haven't had this of a chuckle since the brief period Atlas was allowed to post again.
legendary
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Ron Gross
January 02, 2013, 07:49:45 AM
#27
Another edit war he's participating in, this time accusing SatoshiDice as being a DDOS attack.
Nothing wrong with making such accusations in the forum, but editing wiki entries with pure speculations and insisting on your version of the truth is wrong.

Quote from: luke-jr
SatoshiDice is a DDoS attack against the Bitcoin network designed as a "blockchain-based betting game" so as to exploiting gamblers to cover the expenses of bypassing the built-in anti-DDoS features of Bitcoin (transaction fees).

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January 01, 2013, 03:28:26 PM
#26
It looks more like Luke-jr is suggesting that BitCoin clones should try and achieve some useful purpose.

Alternate currencies serve the same purpose as Bitcoin does, and they have different concepts which make them unique.

He is not saying they should not be created.

You sure?

It's entirely false to state that his text 'degrades alternate coins' or that he 'tries to glamorize Bitcoin like as if it's the best currency in the world with no flaws'.

No it isn't, in the Litecoin wiki page, he says that Litecoin serves no purpose and is a pyramid scheme. Why doesn't he said that about Bitcoin? Hmm? He's degrading other chains.

He clearly states it has flaws when he says 'There are a number of flaws with Bitcoin that cannot be corrected without a "hard fork"'.

Why doesn't he fix those flaws rather than talking shit about coins? He's a hypocrite!

You are arguing against the man ( luke-jr ) not the text he added to the wiki page.

Well, he is the one writing the text of course. His ideology is what he believes, so yes, the text on the page is him.


Gay marriage has nothing to do with this, I can't imagine why you mentioned it.

One of two reasons why you say this. You clearly didn't understand my comparison. What I was trying to say is that Luke-Jr shouldn't give a fuck about alt chains. Or two, you're a conservative Wink
sd
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January 01, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
#25
We all know that Luke is being biased towards Bitcoin. What he puts degrades alternate coins, and tries to glamorize Bitcoin like as if it's the best currency in the world with no flaws. Why doesn't he try to fix those problems before he gets more people to use Bitcoin? Because he doesn't know how! A neutral party? No such thing, most of the people here are strict Bitcoin fanatics, or a decent reasonable person from the alternate chains.

It looks more like Luke-jr is suggesting that BitCoin clones should try and achieve some useful purpose. He is not saying they should not be created. It's entirely false to state that his text 'degrades alternate coins' or that he 'tries to glamorize Bitcoin like as if it's the best currency in the world with no flaws'. He clearly states it has flaws when he says 'There are a number of flaws with Bitcoin that cannot be corrected without a "hard fork"'.

You are arguing against the man ( luke-jr ) not the text he added to the wiki page.


Gay marriage has nothing to do with this, I can't imagine why you mentioned it.
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