My father thinks I'm working in a shop,he didn't know I'm bitcointalking. - page 3.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on February 25, 2023, 09:07:24 AM

On your last point it's clear to me not the best option. But has anyone made signature campaign their main source of income?
With no other work like being unemployed, I think it's fine to make signature campaigns the main source of income (for a while). But when they leave their main job and rely solely on signature campaign as source of income, it's clearly a bad decision.

There must be and probably more than you think. Those who make signature campaigns their main job are not without reason. As the same said before, they made signature campaigns because their jobs were unilaterally dismissed or couldn't find another job or there was no job call, so being on the forum and being a good contributing member became a last resort even though there would be some opportunities for other real jobs. Whether it is a bad decision or not depends on how to manage the salary received from the signature campaign. Saving some of the salary received for some other ventures or for investment is highly recommended, or also holding the payment in BTC for a long time, just like doing DCA for the long term.

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Signature campaign won't last forever and will expire, so you shouldn't rely solely on signature campaign as source of revenue. The best thing is to make signature campaign side activity while chatting with thousands of different users on forum.

The signature campaign may be ending, but there will be a replacement. The forum continues to grow and developer requests for advertising on this number one bitcoin forum will probably continue but with a different mechanism.

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Quote from: kamvreto on February 25, 2023, 06:27:04 AM

Signature campaigns are suitable as side jobs that support the main job. I support that, but some people treat signature campaigns as their main job without anything else.

On your last point it's clear to me not the best option. But has anyone made signature campaign their main source of income?
With no other work like being unemployed, I think it's fine to make signature campaigns the main source of income (for a while). But when they leave their main job and rely solely on signature campaign as source of income, it's clearly a bad decision.

Signature campaign won't last forever and will expire, so you shouldn't rely solely on signature campaign as source of revenue. The best thing is to make signature campaign side activity while chatting with thousands of different users on forum.

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Quote from: martyns on February 23, 2023, 03:20:27 AM

Technology has made life somehow easy for us today.In the days of our father,they had no idea about working online,all their work to make money were done physically,and with strength,either they engaged in mini or mega business that will provide money for them.We thank God for bitcoin,that came as a messiah,to enrich the hopeful.Now my father asks me about my shop,and where it's located,I told him I'm bitcointalking,and he doesn't know what I'm talking.What do yours tell you?

Signatures campaign shoudn't be consider as a source of income or you'll end up disappointed when they're gone. I know many can't come with the reality that we can wake up one day to discover that the signature privilege has been disconnected but that's very possibly. If you pay closed attention, you'll realized those ads that usually pop up on the first post in a thread isn't displaying anymore and that's because theymos has disactivated that. We also have some board and thread that signature ads don't get displayed that means if theymos wants to extend on the general forum, that won't be difficult to achieved.

Signature campaigns are suitable as side jobs that support the main job. I support that, but some people treat signature campaigns as their main job without anything else. Maybe it's due to various factors like getting fired from a job unilaterally, or not finding another job, then forums become a good place to make money. I don't know what the future of the signature campaign will be, is there a big change or is it still going to stick around. If some threads are not showing ads, then there will be less interest from project developers to do signature campaigns on this forum.

OP seems to really have to explain what bitcoin is and how he makes money off of forums, rather than lying about the fictitious shop he told his dad about.

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Quote from: martyns on February 23, 2023, 03:20:27 AM

Technology has made life somehow easy for us today.In the days of our father,they had no idea about working online,all their work to make money were done physically,and with strength,either they engaged in mini or mega business that will provide money for them.We thank God for bitcoin,that came as a messiah,to enrich the hopeful.Now my father asks me about my shop,and where it's located,I told him I'm bitcointalking,and he doesn't know what I'm talking.What do yours tell you?

Signatures campaign shoudn't be consider as a source of income or you'll end up disappointed when they're gone. I know many can't come with the reality that we can wake up one day to discover that the signature privilege has been disconnected but that's very possibly. If you pay closed attention, you'll realized those ads that usually pop up on the first post in a thread isn't displaying anymore and that's because theymos has disactivated that. We also have some board and thread that signature ads don't get displayed that means if theymos wants to extend on the general forum, that won't be difficult to achieved.

Writing and engaging in conversation on the forum shoudn't be what you do all day, go get a life outside and get a job that's reliable. You won't only be doing yourself a favor as you can then use whatever you get from the forum as additional support but you'll be doing the forum a favor as It'll reduced the level of spam message we get on the forum as people intend to milk the forum for funds. When next your father ask about your hustle, make sure you'll be able to show him something else.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on February 24, 2023, 02:15:19 PM

However, I don't see a chance that this forum to be seized by any government in the world. No one knows who owns this forum, so how can the government seize this forum? Even if a government claims Satoshi is its citizen, it can be very doubtful. This forum is decentralized, it allows this forum to last longer.

I see that risk is small but it is not the only risk. My example is used to help OP knowing about risk and advising him to have real jobs. Forum can be one of his jobs as additional source of his income.

Nothing can last forever and this forum too. If he does not prepare for the bad, when bad night comes, he will have a nightmare.

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Quote from: martyns on February 23, 2023, 03:20:27 AM

Technology has made life somehow easy for us today.In the days of our father,they had no idea about working online,all their work to make money were done physically,and with strength,either they engaged in mini or mega business that will provide money for them.We thank God for bitcoin,that came as a messiah,to enrich the hopeful.Now my father asks me about my shop,and where it's located,I told him I'm bitcointalking,and he doesn't know what I'm talking.What do yours tell you?

As the days go by the world is getting closer to people. Technology has made people so much easier that it is amazing to imagine now. Our grandfathers, fathers and uncles were once at such a stage that they lived a difficult life, they did not get the touch of technology in a good way. It is truly a credit to technology that we live our lives today, bound by technology. Maybe our next generation will live with such technology that it will sound more surprising.

OP I want to go along with your post and say that I earn money by working on bitcoin forums, my family can't believe how I earn money by working. And people in my area think I might be robbing a bank and earning money from here..they still don't know about this bitcoin forum. Because of which they may express such regrets among us.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on February 24, 2023, 10:35:21 AM

Their generation is different from ours. Some of them are trying to work hard just to earn money; it depends on what kind of environment they have. If your family has grown already into a middle-class to lower-class work, for sure, some of yours want to stick where you can get the money until you survive and some of them into the field of business so they keep into an investment, this time the generation of the millennials are the one who is actively in exploring different things such as this bitcoin things this could be another way of earnings and learnings at the same time. In reality, you cannot push someone who has already designed their workflow.

He's using the quote work smart not hard , wrong in this situation, if you have finish school and only do bitcointalk campaign, you let your parents down, because even if you are earning in bitcointalk, you should have take also, taken day jobs, since you can do bitcoin at night, in this example you are being lazy, at the same time lying to your parents at the same time, you are forgetting something one source of income, is not a good idea, what happen if in one situation, you are unable to do campaigns, in digital world more work or source of income is better than having one, I'm not saying your 100% wrong but having multiple source of income is better.

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the past and the present era are different, especially in terms of technology. which are increasingly advancing and developing.
bitcoin is one of the characteristics of the progress of this era, bitcoin has become an interesting icon to study and to invest.
I am also very grateful that I can feel the progress of the times and can understand it.

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Quote from: erep on February 24, 2023, 04:44:19 PM

Those who are clueless don't know that in modern times there are many job opportunities with the highest income, many publishers, traders, and more they have income above the salary of officials, but they are investigated from the amount of money they have and must report wealth to the state, but many officials are corrupt Even just the staff of the tax staff who have assets richer than the governor are not examined and no corruption suspects are determined

Maybe it's because the staff is protected that they don't carry out checks like publishers, traders, and others like you said. And I think this is unique for workers in the crypto space when they can store assets more securely in personal wallets of multiple sizes and are not known by any bank or state so there is no check for them whatsoever in this regard. Even though in the end they will also withdraw it through the bank, this can be done in stages so that they are not subject to scrutiny by the state.

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Quote from: martyns on February 23, 2023, 03:20:27 AM

Now my father asks me about my shop,and where it's located,I told him I'm bitcointalking,and he doesn't know what I'm talking.What do yours tell you?

Well, I think that you're doing it wrong. "Bitcointalking" is not supposed to be a job. Relying on posting on a forum as a stable source of income can easily lead to big problems.
Lying your family about your job is imho even worse, although I clearly don't expect them to understand all this.
Imho the proper way should be to have a stable job (maybe at a shop) and whatever (and whenever) you get some extra from campaigns on bitcointalk... treat is as a bonus, because that's what it is.

In addition to those who have a stable income from signature campaigns every week, there are many others who can consider the forum as their main source of income. Project owners, campaign managers, and maybe some admins are almost living here and have no other businesses in real life. I don't expect all of those to deal with the forum as it is a bonus. I can encourage op to bitcointalking in his mean but not by relying on signature campaigns.

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Don't forget to save or have other sources of income as you make money on the forum. The worst that might happen to any forum member is that they would have to completely rely on the signature campaign to survive. The signature campaign you joined today may end at any time, in case you don't know. In this forum nothing is guaranteed. Even this forum or signature campaigns could cease to exist or become irrelevant someday.
Before it's too late, you'd better start to think otherwise (get a side job).

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Quote from: ShowOff on February 24, 2023, 03:07:13 PM

Even in modern times like today, you may still be approached by the police when you buy a sports car for tens of thousands of dollars when you don't have a good job in the real world. I mean, the police or other bad people can think that you're a gambler or you're a drug dealer, that's just a layman's assumption when they don't know what results when an android is used on best purpose.

Those who are clueless don't know that in modern times there are many job opportunities with the highest income, many publishers, traders, and more they have income above the salary of officials, but they are investigated from the amount of money they have and must report wealth to the state, but many officials are corrupt Even just the staff of the tax staff who have assets richer than the governor are not examined and no corruption suspects are determined

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on February 24, 2023, 02:47:40 PM

Most of our parents think when young lads spend time on the phone, it's all gaming or chatting or doing something rather unholy. It took the global pandemic to open the eyes of most parents, including mine, and they see and understand how one could possibly earn a living trading or investing in Bitcoin if it is properly explained to them. They don't want their kids involved in cyber crimes and related offences, hence why the parents always want the children to do physical work and earn salaries in many cases.
It is not due to ignorance on their path but due to love and care, so as we don't fall prey.

Even in modern times like today, you may still be approached by the police when you buy a sports car for tens of thousands of dollars when you don't have a good job in the real world. I mean, the police or other bad people can think that you're a gambler or you're a drug dealer, that's just a layman's assumption when they don't know what results when an android is used on best purpose.

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Quote from: martyns on February 23, 2023, 03:20:27 AM

Technology has made life somehow easy for us today.In the days of our father,they had no idea about working online,all their work to make money were done physically,and with strength,either they engaged in mini or mega business that will provide money for them.

Agreed! Technology is a great development, but as much as we are rejoicing about it in the next few years what people feared the most will become a reality.. Which is computers taking over peoples jobs, advanced AIs and bots will take over some of these basic jobs and people need to advance their skills to survive this tech disruption.

Quote from: martyns on February 23, 2023, 03:20:27 AM

We thank God for bitcoin,that came as a messiah,to enrich the hopeful.Now my father asks me about my shop,and where it's located,I told him I'm bitcointalking,and he doesn't know what I'm talking.What do yours tell you?

Bitcointalking love how you have used the word Cool

Otherwise bitcoin talking is my side hustle so really I do not need to explain myself to people but do encourage people to join the crypto space.

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Most of our parents think when young lads spend time on the phone, it's all gaming or chatting or doing something rather unholy. It took the global pandemic to open the eyes of most parents, including mine, and they see and understand how one could possibly earn a living trading or investing in Bitcoin if it is properly explained to them. They don't want their kids involved in cyber crimes and related offences, hence why the parents always want the children to do physical work and earn salaries in many cases.
It is not due to ignorance on their path but due to love and care, so as we don't fall prey.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on February 24, 2023, 10:35:21 AM

Their generation is different from ours. Some of them are trying to work hard just to earn money; it depends on what kind of environment they have. If your family has grown already into a middle-class to lower-class work, for sure, some of yours want to stick where you can get the money until you survive and some of them into the field of business so they keep into an investment, this time the generation of the millennials are the one who is actively in exploring different things such as this bitcoin things this could be another way of earnings and learnings at the same time. In reality, you cannot push someone who has already designed their workflow.

The advantage of Bitcoin development to this generation is the fact that we are the originating generation and it's a big privilege for us to be around in the beginning because in the next generation, bitcoin will become more scarce and so will its knowledge.
Bitcoin has enhanced remote work through its payment processing that does require a third party unlike the old forks physical work is most essential and the only available means to earn an income, ops father may be of the older generations that do not understand the technicality of bitcoin and what it represent but since ops can convince the father of the possibility of remote working its become mor confident within the family knowing fully well that the ops are not involved in an illegal business.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on February 24, 2023, 10:35:21 AM

Their generation is different from ours. Some of them are trying to work hard just to earn money; it depends on what kind of environment they have. If your family has grown already into a middle-class to lower-class work, for sure, some of yours want to stick where you can get the money until you survive and some of them into the field of business so they keep into an investment, this time the generation of the millennials are the one who is actively in exploring different things such as this bitcoin things this could be another way of earnings and learnings at the same time. In reality, you cannot push someone who has already designed their workflow.

OP just fail to explain well about what he is currently doing that’s why when asked by his father, his father didn’t know what he is talking about. Most likely, his father is not aware about online jobs and all its alike including bitcoin giving us opportunities to earn. His generation is clearly different from ours as they may be used to see physical jobs, but our generation is more on virtual or online job opportunities. However, you should have told your father about that so he won’t do overthinking on how you make your own money without seeing you working on a regular day job.

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Quote from: martyns on February 23, 2023, 03:20:27 AM

Now my father asks me about my shop,and where it's located,I told him I'm bitcointalking,and he doesn't know what I'm talking.

What is bitcointalking?
I don't know what bitcointalking is, so I can understand if your father doesn't know as well. If you said "you are a Bitcoin trader or a Bitcoin investor", I think it will be easier to understand. Please don't say something that makes us confused! Undecided

Quote from: UchihaSarada on February 24, 2023, 05:20:59 AM

Forum shutdown will happen by many reasons, not only less interest of community in this communication style. It can be seized by government for example.

However, I don't see a chance that this forum to be seized by any government in the world. No one knows who owns this forum, so how can the government seize this forum? Even if a government claims Satoshi is its citizen, it can be very doubtful. This forum is decentralized, it allows this forum to last longer.

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So as I understand, you say your father that you work in a online shop? Or you still going outside everyday to proove that you work physically? xD

I know the generation don't want to believe that people can work in online or from online people can earn. Even they don't understand what is online (some fathers/grandPa). But laying with them is something what I don't like. Maybe try to them understand in some other ways except lying with them.

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Quote from: KingsDen on February 23, 2023, 12:47:35 PM

I am surprised that everyone is advising not to depend on signature campaign as job. But people have been in Best_Change, chipmixer, Roobet etc campaign for more than 2yrs. While some real time work doesn't even last upto 6 months.

It's still unreliable! Because these jobs are not guaranteed, and no one knows what will happen the following week. It's more of a side hustle; anything more is incorrect. My opinion

It's true because nothing is reliable at first. Saying no one knows what will happen the following week could mean that theymos may decided not to renew the domain bitcointalk.org or in the worse scenario end signature campaign.
I so much understand the advice but I think it's overblown and repeated unnecessarily while most of those giving the advice might be relying only on the forum earnings and still doing well.

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