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February 20, 2015, 10:42:03 AM
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I don't know Indonesian either but I used a few translators and verified what dsyahputera told except 4[su]th[/sup] line, no mention about signature campaign which you can see without translating in OP.

4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign.
~iki
4. I never wanted to sell my account.

   -MZ
4. I never wanted to sell my account. I say/post about that on a signature campaign thread[1] that explain if I become Sr. Member, I will enroll to other signature campaign[2].

[1] He post about that (never wanted to sell his account) on a signature campaign thread.
[2] He say if he become Sr. Member, he will enroll to other signature campaign.

Explain: In the past, he was discussing about if he become Sr. Member, he will enroll to other signature campaign. The post about he never wanted to sell his account is a part of that discussion. He was discussed it on a signature campaign thread.
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
To all:
sorry gan" ane ga ol kemaren, ada urusan di RL.

1. Ane ga pernah PM sama Candystripes, fiesta, quickseller.
2. Ane gatau kenapa trust ane bisa neg dan di sangka scammer.
3. Waktu ane nyadar kena hack, ga ada bekasnya, dari post, PM inbox ataupun outbox.
4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign.
5. Kalo menurut ane pas akun ane di hack, dan dpt neg trust si Candy lngsung ngehapus PM/inbox/post skenarionya.
Angry


~iki

Can someone translate his post? I don't know the indonesian language, thanks for the attention.

I don't know Indonesian either but I used a few translators and verified what dsyahputera told except 4[su]th[/sup] line, no mention about signature campaign which you can see without translating in OP.

4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign.
~iki
4. I never wanted to sell my account.

   -MZ
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I trying to translate it make it easy Cheesy

To all:
sorry gan" ane ga ol kemaren, ada urusan di RL.

1. Ane ga pernah PM sama Candystripes, fiesta, quickseller.
2. Ane gatau kenapa trust ane bisa neg dan di sangka scammer.
3. Waktu ane nyadar kena hack, ga ada bekasnya, dari post, PM inbox ataupun outbox.
4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign.
5. Kalo menurut ane pas akun ane di hack, dan dpt neg trust si Candy lngsung ngehapus PM/inbox/post skenarionya.
Angry


~iki

Sorry everyone, I can't online yesterday.
1. I never send any PM to Candystripes, fiesta, or Quickseller.
2. I don't know why I got the negative trust, I don't know why I'm expected as a scammer.
3. When I know my account was hacked, I don't see any trace, even it is a post, or PM on inbox/outbox.
4. I never wanted to sell my account.
5. I think, the hacker (Candy) quickly delete the PM/inbox/posts when he know my account got negative trust.

Thanks bro dsyahputera
RL = means Real Life.
*sorry guys if low respon, because my conection is so bad.


~iki
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#Free market
To all:
sorry gan" ane ga ol kemaren, ada urusan di RL.

1. Ane ga pernah PM sama Candystripes, fiesta, quickseller.
2. Ane gatau kenapa trust ane bisa neg dan di sangka scammer.
3. Waktu ane nyadar kena hack, ga ada bekasnya, dari post, PM inbox ataupun outbox.
4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign.
5. Kalo menurut ane pas akun ane di hack, dan dpt neg trust si Candy lngsung ngehapus PM/inbox/post skenarionya.
Angry


~iki


Can someone translate his post? I don't know the indonesian language, thanks for the attention.
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I trying to translate it make it easy Cheesy

To all:
sorry gan" ane ga ol kemaren, ada urusan di RL.

1. Ane ga pernah PM sama Candystripes, fiesta, quickseller.
2. Ane gatau kenapa trust ane bisa neg dan di sangka scammer.
3. Waktu ane nyadar kena hack, ga ada bekasnya, dari post, PM inbox ataupun outbox.
4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign.
5. Kalo menurut ane pas akun ane di hack, dan dpt neg trust si Candy lngsung ngehapus PM/inbox/post skenarionya.
Angry


~iki

Sorry everyone, I can't online yesterday, due to a problem on my real life.
1. I never send any PM to Candystripes, fiesta, or Quickseller.
2. I don't know why I got the negative trust, I don't know why I'm expected as a scammer.
3. When I know my account was hacked, I don't see any trace, even it is a post, or PM on inbox/outbox.
4. I never wanted to sell my account.
5. I think, the hacker (Candy) quickly delete the PM/inbox/posts when he know my account got negative trust.
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:)
I think the guy ran out, you uncovered something important and he ditched.Good job quickseller and red snow on another Candy bust Cheesy
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You can choose who to report the PM to by using the dropdown box. Admins can see PMs but they will not specifically do it unless you request it.

I have said that but I think it wasn't understandable easily. Thanks for telling! This might avoid future spams about the post.

If the PM was come to you, you can report that PM, so 'the person you report to' or all Global Moderators and Admins can see the PM. Admins can see them without reporting too.

   -MZ
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Sorry, I just want to ask.
How to verify it's fake or real PM ?

Hey Buddy, it's me, Candy !

I just edit the author and UID the sender, Quickseller never send a single message to me.

If the PM was come to you, you can report that PM, so 'the person you report to' or all Global Moderators and Admins can see the PM. Admins can see them without reporting too.

If it is in other's inbox, you will have to ask an Admin to verify or tell that person to report the PM to a Global Moderator or Admin(person who is online currently) and tell him/her to tell whether the verification was positive or not to you or in that specific thread.

   -MZ
You can choose who to report the PM to by using the dropdown box. Admins can see PMs but they will not specifically do it unless you request it.
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I assume that using a time stamp authority is done by the person signing the message, and that in order to use one then the computer that holds the private key must be connected to the Internet.

There are a couple of different ways to do it, but what you describe is one way. Yes you're right holding a private key online is generally a bad idea, but thats what most "authorities" such as certificate authorities that sign SSL keys do, and even SSL keys themselves must be kept online. Another way is for the timestamp authority to publish random numbers at a regular interval and have the client include the latest random number in the metadata.

It would be cool to implement something that used a blockchain as a timestamp authority.
you could include the hash of the most recent found block. Unless you are willing to withhold a block for a long time (and obviously control enough hashrate to find blocks often enough to pull this off) then it would prove that you signed a message on or after the time the block was found.
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aren't they time stamped based on the time of my computer though? If I were to change the date/time on my computer then it would show as being signed at a different time. Plus some may not be savvy enough to check the time of the signature.

It is based on the time on your computer, but most PGP clients will change the timezone to UTC to prevent your timezone from being disclosed. Yep this can be faked, but so can the time you put in the message (you could be lying). You can however configure your PGP client to use a trusted timestamp server, though there aren't many of these as this functionality is really old and not used much. This will prove that the message was signed on or after the time specified, it wouldn't be possible for the message to be signed before the time specified unless the timestamp server was acting malicious.

Most (all) PGP clients will display the date and time the message was signed and you are supposed to check it.
I assume that using a time stamp authority is done by the person signing the message, and that in order to use one then the computer that holds the private key must be connected to the Internet.
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I will send you a PM about my "theory"

I already reported the two messages so hopefully someone will confirm them soon.
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-snip-
if you do not trust me then I will report the messages for verification by a global mod/admin.

No, this was just a point on the side in order to stop the arguments about the legitimacy of the PM. If anyone has doubts Im sure BadBear or a global mod would verify the PM.

My helping candy "theory" is not a theory. I have very good reason to know this to be the case.

The following is speculation however I think he probably was talking with him on some gambling chat site and offered him a small tip if he were to send a "random" private message.

Do you have anything provable that at least hints in the direction?
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-snip-

You don't need to include the date or time in a PGP message, they are already timestamped.

Also the message is verified:

Code:
gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 12:41:24 GMT
gpg:                using RSA key 0x532DD290F0BEB516

Yep

Code:
gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 13:41:24 CET using RSA key ID F0BEB516
gpg: Good signature from "quick seller "

but this does not prove that the PM is legit, only that quickseller is in control of the account.

Anyway, regarding the topic at hand. IMHO the "is helping candy" theory is less likely than the "bad sec habits fucked me". I might very well be wrong though. The question is: what are the consequences for the account? Will it be neg bombed to -1000 trust und thus basically useless or will we give ikydesu the benefit of the doubt?

Both options have their ups and downs. I used to play on a MC Server for a while that had a very nice message repeating in chat. The wording might be off, this is from memory.

Quote
You are responsible for your account and its security and as a consequence responsible for all activities that occur under your account.


if you do not trust me then I will report the messages for verification by a global mod/admin.

My helping candy "theory" is not a theory. I have very good reason to know this to be the case.

The following is speculation however I think he probably was talking with him on some gambling chat site and offered him a small tip if he were to send a "random" private message.
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Can we ask Fiesta01 to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ?
Fiesta01 is me, the PM is real. Fiesta01 was created to find a scammer account. Candy asked ikydesu to PM that account so "he" would be willing to send him funds to him directly to "buy" it.

ikydesu was helping Candy scam by making it look like he was in control of something he was claiming to own when in reality this was not true

can you please make a screen shot from Fiesta account ?, or maybe we need a trusted member to verify that you are controling that account.
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Today is feb 19 2015 this is quickseller from bitcointalk

I confirm that I am in control of the Fiesta01 account. This message is accurate as of 12:40 PM forum time only, and this account should not be trusted as it is subject to sale.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org

iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJU5dn0AAoJEFMt0pDwvrUW44sIAKFvFdADkdTC2ts2CmvPUpWZ
fbA9znhnVgfIRSv1SwXwx7zhy+o4uQKmVjINyQb42qfwMc6BEZV2QHo0xaRaLfre
KRBXmM37eM6KRKGcyrxUGxVt90A1ZMGuSE4nIaa7ylA6BD1EiSxe0MHQMPkF9GU1
fsc28ou9fLTKVgMuIKy17tr9bRs43You4jm3SbMHgU9lyS1xM9PGWNPA2w6DKCgM
kczyyJ/71g6AqcHlDhtUj8yxL6AZRyHfjL7MBMVKwnaQTpdxZJOLEsP7IuT4dtfe
K3hHyVc9+5MP3zGlrVneZgPr7WAwSkVHozi0rqlsn9rNyxGavyacpE9RrGX3oZI=
=2zj7
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

You don't need to include the date or time in a PGP message, they are already timestamped.

Also the message is verified:

Code:
gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 12:41:24 GMT
gpg:                using RSA key 0x532DD290F0BEB516
gpg: Good signature from "quick seller "
aren't they time stamped based on the time of my computer though? If I were to change the date/time on my computer then it would show as being signed at a different time. Plus some may not be savvy enough to check the time of the signature.
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-snip-

You don't need to include the date or time in a PGP message, they are already timestamped.

Also the message is verified:

Code:
gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 12:41:24 GMT
gpg:                using RSA key 0x532DD290F0BEB516

Yep

Code:
gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 13:41:24 CET using RSA key ID F0BEB516
gpg: Good signature from "quick seller "

but this does not prove that the PM is legit, only that quickseller is in control of the account.

Anyway, regarding the topic at hand. IMHO the "is helping candy" theory is less likely than the "bad sec habits fucked me". I might very well be wrong though. The question is: what are the consequences for the account? Will it be neg bombed to -1000 trust und thus basically useless or will we give ikydesu the benefit of the doubt?

Both options have their ups and downs. I used to play on a MC Server for a while that had a very nice message repeating in chat. The wording might be off, this is from memory.

Quote
You are responsible for your account and its security and as a consequence responsible for all activities that occur under your account.

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Um, I'm sure ikydesu is not Candy, but I don't sure if ikydesu helping Candy, probably that's right Undecided
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If someone is helping a scammer he is itself a scammer, this is obvious or am I wrong? I would like to read a reply from ikydesu, thanks.
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Can we ask Fiesta01 to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ?
Fiesta01 is me, the PM is real. Fiesta01 was created to find a scammer account. Candy asked ikydesu to PM that account so "he" would be willing to send him funds to him directly to "buy" it.

ikydesu was helping Candy scam by making it look like he was in control of something he was claiming to own when in reality this was not true

can you please make a screen shot from Fiesta account ?, or maybe we need a trusted member to verify that you are controling that account.
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Today is feb 19 2015 this is quickseller from bitcointalk

I confirm that I am in control of the Fiesta01 account. This message is accurate as of 12:40 PM forum time only, and this account should not be trusted as it is subject to sale.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org

iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJU5dn0AAoJEFMt0pDwvrUW44sIAKFvFdADkdTC2ts2CmvPUpWZ
fbA9znhnVgfIRSv1SwXwx7zhy+o4uQKmVjINyQb42qfwMc6BEZV2QHo0xaRaLfre
KRBXmM37eM6KRKGcyrxUGxVt90A1ZMGuSE4nIaa7ylA6BD1EiSxe0MHQMPkF9GU1
fsc28ou9fLTKVgMuIKy17tr9bRs43You4jm3SbMHgU9lyS1xM9PGWNPA2w6DKCgM
kczyyJ/71g6AqcHlDhtUj8yxL6AZRyHfjL7MBMVKwnaQTpdxZJOLEsP7IuT4dtfe
K3hHyVc9+5MP3zGlrVneZgPr7WAwSkVHozi0rqlsn9rNyxGavyacpE9RrGX3oZI=
=2zj7
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Can we ask Fiesta01 to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ?
Fiesta01 is me, the PM is real. Fiesta01 was created to find a scammer account. Candy asked ikydesu to PM that account so "he" would be willing to send him funds to him directly to "buy" it.

ikydesu was helping Candy scam by making it look like he was in control of something he was claiming to own when in reality this was not true

can you please make a screen shot from Fiesta account ?, or maybe we need a trusted member to verify that you are controling that account.
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Can we ask Fiesta01 to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ?
Fiesta01 is me, the PM is real. Fiesta01 was created to find a scammer account. Candy asked ikydesu to PM that account so "he" would be willing to send him funds to him directly to "buy" it.

ikydesu was helping Candy scam by making it look like he was in control of something he was claiming to own when in reality this was not true
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