Topic: My View on Brand-Newbies to Legendary Members in the Forum - page 2. (Read 714 times)

Let’s all be practical here we know some people are here not for the rank or what the benefits attached to ranks are, but purely for the knowledge I think we should also entertain that. Although I can’t deny the fact that I enjoy the benefits attached to ranking up but if any one decides that they only want to come in here for the knowledge purposes we should encourage that and also give others that believe too. Many newbies are taught at an early stage or before they come to the house that the house is all about earning.

Let's even forget about ranks here for the fact that someone knows better than you is your senior regardless of age or post, pride is what makes some think they can't kearn even from the junior ones around them, but they have forgotten that learning has no limit, it's a continuous process that can be acquired from any level or source.


Mate there's no boundaries to how far you can go in learning, the forum is quite right mainly for bitcoin discussion and other discussion were just additional services that could also make learning out of the bitcoin which is the main target, being conversant with the forum alone is a learning process though it may be unconscious, aren't we learning from different boards discussion here on the forum? Of course we all do.

Every new commer in the forum always pay respect and much attention to rank. And it is normal so, and that is how it is supposed to be. Until you begin to enter higher ranks and know that there is little or no difference between you and others.
The major difference is purpose and interest to the forum. But then it is nice to understand that almost all the great members of this forum are from Hero to Legendary. So it takes time and experience to be very proficient in the forum.

You sounded like one. Yes I know there are a lot of users that are not interested anything concerning learning and education, and that is not good. I hope there are two cardinal points in this forum.
1. To learn: If you have not known bitcoin before and you registered in this forum, then you have to learn what is bitcoin from knowledgeable users to improve yourself. You don't know bitcoin before and you come here yet you are not learning. Then what is the purpose of joining the Forum? From this your comment...let me reserve my comment
2. Educate: If you have learned or you know it before coming to this forum you have to educate others to know. And all these processes are part of education. So which one are you?

Ahaha!!! Then what are you doing here? I really don't understand your reason of being here. That means you have not learned anything here. Probably you have knowledge on bitcoin but you are not interested to teach others because the forum is not for educating people. As for me I see the forum as an institution because I have learned a lot from it and still learning to teach my students.

And then from time to time, we get people like n0nce. A youngling in forum rank, but certainly not in knowledge, experience, and logic.
All people have certain qualities and things they are good at, and then there are the things they don't excel in. There are legendary members on this forum capable of solving or finding the best solution to almost any Bitcoin-related problem, but there are also those who have no idea how to do it. But they are still good at other things. So the rank doesn't always matter.   

OP, I'm not really sure that this forum can be compared to an educational institution and that a higher rank always means more knowledge and experience.
I personally know one owner of a crypto company, who just recently registered on this forum and is still a newbie member, but he has more knowledge and experience in the crypto industry than most legenday members on this forum.
Forum rank only shows the moment someone joined this forum and nothing more, especially for members who joined before the introduction of the merit system.
One's level of crypto knowledge does not depend on seniority on this forum but on one's own learning and investment.

In addition to all you've said, OP should also know that not every new registered member is a true newbie. There are some who have been here a long time with vast knowledge of how the system works and decided to get an alt to test the ranking up hurdles or for any other reason. It's the same way some graduates enrol in other institutions or courses to switch it go higher. You can't compare their knowledge level with those of fresh students in the same field.

Really? You truly think so? Well, I see here as a school. In fact, a tertiary institution. You may say it's not a formal kind of school but it's definitely a school. Haven't you heard of online schools? For me, virtually everything I've come to learn about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is from here. I believe it's the same for most users here too.

I don't really get what op is trying to portray but I think staying here on Bitcointalk for a long time does not make you look like you have pass through the necessary level in education even though the person is a legendary. Learning is a choice and I know that there are many persons that had been here for long probably for signature campaign benefits but still don't know much about this forum or Bitcoin. This is not a school nor a place to learn the major things about the Bitcoin  and it network. The forum is majorly for the discussion of Bitcoin not a learning specific site.

I respect your view, OP since you mentioned anyway that that is how you see this forum, a university. I just hope that your view won't establish a superiority complex based on rank to every users in here. Some newbies/lower forum ranks in a thread that I had participated in were far more experienced than me at some niche in crypto, and I respect that they have more experience than me since that is their niche anyway.

Some things were not achieved by ranks and position, it has to be base on real live experience, what you know may be nothing to write about when compared to other people's experience, some newbie were truly newbie only to the forum rank but experienced users in the reality world, then also let me say this that we have some individuals differences in level of assimilation when it comes to learning, sone newbie can be quick and fast as possible in learning a new thing and within a little time they can grow fast and adapt to the level of an experienced user.

I don't consider the Brand new account branding first a rank. Given that anyone could attain that and quickly move past that to being a newbie and as such, it doesn't count.

About the thread, well there might be a lot of things that we might not agree with in respect to the content and OP's views on the ranks and categorisations, at least, its the OP's views and he's not entirely wrong but, the truth to the later is, its not the same for every user of the forum. Given that,

We've got newbie as alt accounts,
We got ranked users as bought accounts (some might previously be members of full members that jumps to buy higher ranks)
Some might just have been affiliated with other crypto sites far before they joined up on the forum.

Of course these people don't fit in on his categorisation and I think it's the same for the actual university for which OP writs this analogy.
There are categories not considered or recognised in the school systems but they still exists.

The only course for wonder is, for what purpose might this be!

I think you got irritated with what was said and went on to give a short essay explaining your original post and how it shouldn’t be viewed as a merit begging post.
One would think you wouldn’t have the urge to explain yourself if it really isn’t a merit fishing post. But what do I know? I’m just a freshman in “our college”

That's what I also said that there are many legendary member who have not earned single merit after the merit system introduction back in 2018 by @theymos as they were ranking up based on only activity writing the shitposts but after that many left the forum while others who have joined some campaigns back are still spamming up the forum.So they are legendary by rank only and don't have any knowledge about bitcoin stuff.

While some newbies have managed to earn good number of merits in small span of time contributing well to the forum and have adequate knowledge about market whether technical or non technical so how do the @OP classify them under the mentioned perspective? So for me if you have zeal to learn and exchange knowledge on the forum you can have perpetual growth and these reactions won't matter a lot.

If we are going to go into technical details, there are higher bodies than Legendary in the sense that we have admins, global moderators, moderators, and other staff.
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No need for the long epistle writings Mate. Take the positive criticisms and not the negative ones. Peace out!

Just like that? Is this the way you accused people, or the topic or the content is confusing? Mate I believe you became a legendary member based on your hardworking and you deserved (merited) to be. You did not jump or buy your legendary membership level. And I also believe that you passed through all the stage mentioned by the OP. That is you have small knowledge at least for all the stages even. Let me give you an illustration for more understanding. If a student graduate from a university with a first class honored degree and a year one student asked him a question from his field, and the graduate said he doesn't know, what do you think the junior student will feel? Although they are some junior students that are doing second degree in the same University with different course. Therefore, they might have knowledge more than the graduate.

Lastly: I believe you are a graduate of University. Not really sure, but probability formula is used.  When you were in school. Lecturers did not make you laugh in any day? And also be serious about his Teaching as well? Why the accusation of merit begging? A good teacher makes his students to laugh, tell them fictional stories at some times to make the class lively and also to remove boring from the students. Any how a teacher is knowledgeable, there are time his class are bore, so good teacher would detect very fast and give them story to mup up. The OP analogy might not be true because he or she was not around when the merit system has not been introduced, so he didn't know what was happening by then but the thread might also be correct from the structural analysis.

The thread is even based on the structural analysis. Not on Personality. Personally I know that they are some legendary newbies in the forum. I have been making comments on that issue time without number, there are some threads a newbie would create that is very good. I am not begging for merit please.

This post is just like the typical analogy of what the ranks mean like the school environment used as the analysis because I understand and believe that op also know it that it doesn't really represent the reality in the forum. Sure as we know there are alt accounts as newbie, Jr member, member etc, are they still in the class of the analogy? No they are not because they have the requisite above that level you see them.

I think before now ranks were basically and by implication showing duration in the forum but as time went , the merit system has changed the dynamics of ranks. You can now place duration of an account only by activities and not experience, knowledge or ranks.

I read a thread about professional newbies. In your fantasy university there's no place for newbies with legendary knowledge. How about newbies with very high knowledge and activity but lack merits to rank up, where will you place them?

On a normal view, your idea of the forum is not bad but in practice it's far from what you have just said. In your real university, someone in level 100 doesn't pay to reach level 500. But here in bitcointalk, a newbie could get a legendary account. So most of the things doesn't have coloration.

This indeed, is a good perspective or should I say, comparism of Bitcointalk forum to an educational institution.
But I must say that your analogy based on ranks is wrong, like Welsh said, newbies, and some others that are in junior levels aren't necessarily learning from those with higher ranks, I've seen several members in junior level make really educative posts, and even sometimes, correct tht seniors ones when they make a mistake or assume something wrongly.
So to simply put it, ranks on the forum does not represent how much a member knows, ranks are just there as a means of motivating users to keep learning.

I thought about that, too, as this isn't the first similar thread the OP has created.

Let it be so. If the OP presents the forum this way, it's normal, but unfortunately, not all newcomers come here to learn, as you put it, to study cryptocurrencies correctly.

Some members of the forum see him as a "money cow" that can be milked.

What about farmer accounts, cheaters, and people who come to the forum with not entirely pure intentions?

Unfortunately, your vision of the forum is somewhat utopian, but it is not. Here, in addition to the picture you beautifully described, there is deceit and greed, for which in your real academy, people would simply be kicked out, which is not happening here.

Forum is mixture for brand new, newbies to Hero and Legendary members. There is no difference between brand new and newbie members. Only one post and one activity point are not enough to make difference between them.

Junior member is not much different too but from Member (with 10 merit required), difference will become clearer. From Full member and Senior member, difference increases bigger. Sometimes not much difference between Senior Member and Hero member. I only think difference is clear between Senior Member and Legendary member.

If this topic receives a lot of merit, we will see more members create same ones in future.