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legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
It's the authorities responsibility to provide proof the funds were obtained nefariously.
Not in all countries. Here it's your own responsibility to prove you've obtained for instance cash legally. Crypto is probably treated in the same way.

Wait, what?  That's contradictory.  How could it be signed by your service with an invalid signature?  This sounds like a convenient excuse to deflect the blame.
I think it just means that there is a signature, possibly lifted from a real LoG but it's not a valid signature for the fake LoG.
That makes sense, I'm pretty sure not all users actually verify the LoG (especially since some users don't even bother downloading it).
legendary
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Wait, what?  That's contradictory.  How could it be signed by your service with an invalid signature?  This sounds like a convenient excuse to deflect the blame.

I think it just means that there is a signature, possibly lifted from a real LoG but it's not a valid signature for the fake LoG.
copper member
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If its a human right, why would the police or a financial institution not allow him to possess such funds in such a situation without proving its origin?

You're a fucking moron, and this sentence proves it.  It's the authorities responsibility to provide proof the funds were obtained nefariously.  You're lowering the average IQ of the forum, and I feel stupider for reading your trolling bullshit.  Now, please get the fuck out of here.


I checked the PGP.

What do you mean by this?  You claim you don't have the letter of guarantee, but you have to download it before you can check if for a valid signature.  Did you or did you not check the signature of the letter?


MCM gives the user a very powerful tool in form of Letter of Guarantee. It is indisputable.

The only "power" the letter offers is proof that the address belongs to the anonymous service.  It doesn't guarantee that you aren't a scammer.

There is no log. Not only because the logs are not stored or the information were deleted. There is no log because the transaction was never tracked by MCM. MCM tracks only the transactions belonging to its own addresses.

Quit beating around the bush, nobody cares about the "ownership" of the address.  Maybe it belongs to MCM, or maybe it belongs to you personally.  Stop trying to hide behind the semantics.  The question is a simple one with a "yes" or "no" answer:  Did you or did you not receive a transaction for 13BTC on or around the date and time the OP's txid?

Had the funds landed in one of MCMs addresses and were not processed for any reason, I would contact you asking for a message signed with sender address describing where the funds should be sent. They have not.

If this were to have happened, how you would you have contacted the user?  Contact information isn't requested by your service.

The rest of the story matches what would have happened if you sent the funds to a malicious website. You should ALWAYS verify the LoG - not only download but also verify against the PGP key. The malicious websites oftentimes give you the LoG with the deposit address changed. Looks the same and is still signed by MCM, but the signature is invalid.

Wait, what?  That's contradictory.  How could it be signed by your service with an invalid signature?  This sounds like a convenient excuse to deflect the blame.


This is one of the weirdest scam accusations I've seen here.  Both the OP and MyCryptoMixer seem to contradict themselves, and getting a strait answer from either seems impossible.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Why haven't the coins moved?

If the coins moved you can bet they would move to a mixer. Whether it's MCM stealing them, a hacker stealing them, or the OP playing games - in all of these scenarios it the perp must obfuscate them so any tracking would not be successful. Come to think of it, the "OP playing games" scenario probably has the least incentive for the coins to be moved. If someone stole them there is no reason to wait.

The only other scenario that I can think of is that the OP sent coins to an address no one has private keys for. This would also explain why the coins haven't moved. It's not easy to do accidentally though. A simple typo would result in an valid address.

Anything else we can read from this fact?
jr. member
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None of this matters to your scam accusation as long as you don't have a signed Letter of Guarantee.

Don't you think the sideshow happening here is pretty entertaining though? Why haven't the coins moved? Why would somebody create/use throwaway accounts to baselessly attack OP's reputation? That was weird AF.

Perhaps it would be better it OP retitled the thread to something more factually accurate. It's technically not possible (as far as I know) to determine the owner of the address at the moment.
That's what I thought too.  Why would some new accounts created at same day attack the OP. Obviously to me it has to do something with the mixer
We talking here about 600000$ but the Admin of the mixer avoiding here like if he deal with 600K transactions 100 times a day so it's like nothing to him.

Why the coins not moved ? I think the pw we tof the address where the coins are is watching this thread so he knew some members gonna trace or at least know what's going on if he moved them.
legendary
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None of this matters to your scam accusation as long as you don't have a signed Letter of Guarantee.

Don't you think the sideshow happening here is pretty entertaining though? Why haven't the coins moved? Why would somebody create/use throwaway accounts to baselessly attack OP's reputation? That was weird AF.

Perhaps it would be better it OP retitled the thread to something more factually accurate. It's technically not possible (as far as I know) to determine the owner of the address at the moment.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Have once again reached out to Mycryptomixer via email with a few questions and heard nothing.
Did you ask the same questions as before? This post was pretty clear:
Unless you are willing to provide additional evidence, I will not be repeating myself on the same topics over and over again.

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Funds have not left the wallet address I sent the coins to. Seems like someone is waiting for things to die down before moving them -- an unlikely pattern for a phishing scheme.
None of this matters to your scam accusation as long as you don't have a signed Letter of Guarantee.
jr. member
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Its surprising how many accounts in this forum trying to defend the mixer website and attacking the guy who lost his coins. .
Some of the accounts created the same day they posted on this post to attack the OP
This makes me think the mixer site is fishy.
And probably the owner of the mixer is the same guy using alts to attack the OP.
copper member
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Spear the bees
an unlikely pattern for a phishing scheme.
Time delays increase the difficulty of chain analysis if you're working to obfuscate the tainted inputs from the desired clean outputs - maybe not all phishing attackers, but smart ones would probably treat each case that had a large amount of BTC independently. Besides, it's best to wait for periods of highly-active blockchain volume to use as a smokescreen: current mempool stats show much lower tx counts and fees than some spikes several months ago.
jr. member
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Mundane update:

Have once again reached out to Mycryptomixer via email with a few questions and heard nothing. It has been a week since my last email.

Funds have not left the wallet address I sent the coins to. Seems like someone is waiting for things to die down before moving them -- an unlikely pattern for a phishing scheme.
hero member
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I will speak to my Chain Analysis TX monitoring guys, as this is very interesting. And Crypto from mixers should also be flagged, I am concerned of the transaction monitoring used does not pick up on this.

Roll Eyes

So let OP post the original address then, the address that held the 13BTC prior to going to the dodgy looking BECH32 addresses.

Why don't you ask your "Chain Analysis TX monitoring guys" to follow these steps:
1) Open a block explorer
2) Search for the address that's been posted on this thread a hundred times.
3) Go down the chain and see where those 13 BTC originated from.

Point and click and search shouldn't be too hard for your "chain analysis expert tx guyxxx"

Get the f outta here with your tantrums. Look it up yourself. OP or no one else in this thread owes you any information.

I would like to run it through transaction monitoring and see score and if it brings anything up, but he wont cause privacy.
Your scores mean shit. Do you also expect OP to go like "Look mom. I made it in life. This random dude's chain analysis tx monitoring guys gave me a perfect 10/10". Get a life man.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Is that not a mixer sending those bitcoins to the final address that currently holds the BTC? Or are they where the BTC originated without a mixer?

What I wanted to know, and was my original question was, where did Mr 13BTC have his 13BTC originally?
Before sending it to the above BECH32 addresses and ending up on 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA
Or was the above BECH32 addresses where they originated from and did not go through a mixer?
From my understanding he made one transaction to a mixer, which outputted the 13BTC to the address 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA
So, what is that original BTC address that Mr 13BTC used before sending his BTC to the mixer or to these BECH32 addresses?

Read the fucking thread and use a fucking block explorer, Mr. Crypto Fraud Compliance Expert, instead of multiposting like a squirrel on cocaine. OP claims to have sent funds to 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA. Mixer claims to not have received the funds. This is literally what this thread is about, so get on the topic or get lost, how hard can it be.
legendary
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So let OP post the original address then, the address that held the 13BTC prior to going to the dodgy looking BECH32 addresses.

There's this thing called the blockchain that is actually pretty brilliant and it may hold the answer to your questions, you might want to look into it.

Seriously though dude. What the feeble fuck are you going on about, and why?

OP doesn't owe you shit, stupid.

Fuck off.
newbie
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Quote from mycryptomixer

"For example, if you happen to withdraw funds through a Bitcoin exchange platform who knows your identity, the transaction can eventually be traced back to you."

Surely we can see these BTC came from a mixer, and any compliant Cryptoasset Exchange Service Provider will know its came from a mixer and flag the transaction.

I will speak to my Chain Analysis TX monitoring guys, as this is very interesting. And Crypto from mixers should also be flagged, I am concerned of the transaction monitoring used does not pick up on this.




Stop spamming the thread with baseless personal judgments that are wholly off-topic.

In addition to sounding desperately mad, none of anything you have written has to do with the subject at hand.

Open your own thread about what a horrible meanie OP is and how he deserves a combination of judgment and punishment.

None of what you have to say has anything to do with how OP's coins got where they currently are, or who controls them now. Though something tells me they are currently controlled by a massive piece of shit.
So let OP post the original address then, the address that held the 13BTC prior to going to the dodgy looking BECH32 addresses.

I would like to run it through transaction monitoring and see score and if it brings anything up, but he wont cause privacy.

So like me and everyone else, we will keep assuming he's a low life scum bag who has accumulated the money from the drugs, terrorism, child abuse, human trafficking, murder and any other crime that relates to criminal who use crypto.

Don't worry, Crypto is becoming more stringent and harder to hide from. Eventually criminals who use crypto will go back to using fiat



lol at anyone who believes this 13 BTC was hard-earned money by cowboy guy  Grin
guys i have a bridge to sell you please send 10 btc to my wallet  Wink
Either utter morons or just playing dumb "Sorry I didn't know officer" c'mon they are smart enough to know how this all works.

Anyone who use a Crypto tumbler is more than likely a criminal, let alone one who tries to tumble 13BTC.

And anyone who offers a tumbling service IS a criminal, fact. They are creating services of facilitating money laundering, and actually makes them worse.

Who tries to tumble 13BTC to some randomer LOL, the people defending this poor idiot are probably the conspirers who create such services and scam people.

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legendary
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Stop spamming the thread with baseless personal judgments that are wholly off-topic.

While sounding desperately mad, none of anything you have written has to do with the subject at hand.

Open your own thread about what a horrible meanie OP is and how he deserves a combination of judgment and punishment.

None of what you have to say has anything to do with how OP's coins got where they currently are, or who controls them now. Though something tells me they are currently controlled by a massive piece of shit.
newbie
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I do know blockchain works, I just do not know how it works to levels of you mixer guys, as I do not need to wash my filthy bitcoin to evade being traced back to crime.
So its subjective to say to someone "You don't know how blockchain works" if you are referring for it to be used in a way that considered illegal or facilitates money laundering and funding terrorism.
I will say a person who can wash bitcoin must have a very high level of knowledge on blockchain, as well as a criminal behaviour to provide such a vehicle.

The fuck are you still on about... you were given an address and you said:

That doesn't show the original BTC address where the 13BTC originated from does it, it just shows the mixed BTC and where it was sent to.

What do you think blockchain does then?

BTW the bitcoins in question never even touched the mixer, OP transferred them to that address and that's where they remain.

Yes one thief stealing from another is still wrong, but in society its a normal occurrence, and what one should expect when doing such activities that law wont protect you from.
Its a bit stupid really to cry and complain that someone stole something from you, that you potentially stole or sourced from other criminal activities isn't it.
Drug dealer gets shot and robbed, it happens. Murderer gets killed in prison, it happens. Do we say "oh my that's tragic"? No, we know its a part of the criminal world. Those who act in such circles will probably feel for another criminal loosing such wealth, people who have no association with crime will probably think the same as me. TOUGH SHIT

Well, you seem to be the expert so I'll take your word for it. In your comic book fantasy, what's the appropriate criminal world punishment for a worthless piece of shit illiterate troll? Confiscating all their money and beheading sounds about right?

Receiving address - 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA

Sending address - bc1qnvg64fx03na3svl59f2k7m2w9zrcrg9gt9vfp9

Change address - bc1qaamrxr0s469970e9m9tea4d9ssa7vfd7uq9cqk

TxID - 3157a6b04b804eaf927d93ee4e03c4a4e1ff1414840dd12105d1c55cde74a49c

All that shows is an address that received 13BTC in total, from a number of addresses:
bc1qnvg64fx03na3svl59f2k7m2w9zrcrg9gt9vfp9
3.36956869 BTC
bc1qrjcr6m2t8hkgda9496hzd7yc454c8n79uk50r3
0.62294878 BTC
bc1quagzl7nd8lalkd749j2cytfp6wj2n7e8dj6qr4
6.92985715 BTC
bc1q42n59rrw0asavum7ljpk854jeh3s827ejpjgj7
2.36230569 BTC

Is that not a mixer sending those bitcoins to the final address that currently holds the BTC? Or are they where the BTC originated without a mixer?

What I wanted to know, and was my original question was, where did Mr 13BTC have his 13BTC originally?
Before sending it to the above BECH32 addresses and ending up on 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA
Or was the above BECH32 addresses where they originated from and did not go through a mixer?
From my understanding he made one transaction to a mixer, which outputted the 13BTC to the address 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA
So, what is that original BTC address that Mr 13BTC used before sending his BTC to the mixer or to these BECH32 addresses?

And lets not go on about right and wrong when it comes to crime, the old saying "Crime doesn't pay" springs to mind? Although it certianly paid 3 qs of a m to Mr Crypto Mixer lol.
legendary
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I do know blockchain works, I just do not know how it works to levels of you mixer guys, as I do not need to wash my filthy bitcoin to evade being traced back to crime.
So its subjective to say to someone "You don't know how blockchain works" if you are referring for it to be used in a way that considered illegal or facilitates money laundering and funding terrorism.
I will say a person who can wash bitcoin must have a very high level of knowledge on blockchain, as well as a criminal behaviour to provide such a vehicle.

The fuck are you still on about... you were given an address and you said:

That doesn't show the original BTC address where the 13BTC originated from does it, it just shows the mixed BTC and where it was sent to.

What do you think blockchain does then?

BTW the bitcoins in question never even touched the mixer, OP transferred them to that address and that's where they remain.

Yes one thief stealing from another is still wrong, but in society its a normal occurrence, and what one should expect when doing such activities that law wont protect you from.
Its a bit stupid really to cry and complain that someone stole something from you, that you potentially stole or sourced from other criminal activities isn't it.
Drug dealer gets shot and robbed, it happens. Murderer gets killed in prison, it happens. Do we say "oh my that's tragic"? No, we know its a part of the criminal world. Those who act in such circles will probably feel for another criminal loosing such wealth, people who have no association with crime will probably think the same as me. TOUGH SHIT

Well, you seem to be the expert so I'll take your word for it. In your comic book fantasy, what's the appropriate criminal world punishment for a worthless piece of shit illiterate troll? Confiscating all their money and beheading sounds about right?
sr. member
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lol at anyone who believes this 13 BTC was hard-earned money by cowboy guy  Grin
guys i have a bridge to sell you please send 10 btc to my wallet  Wink
newbie
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Yes I know how blockchain works

You don't:

Please provide wallet address
It's posted here.
That doesn't show the original BTC address where the 13BTC originated from does it, it just shows the mixed BTC and where it was sent to.



Why not?

If this moron stole/hacked/scammed 13BTC, and someone steals from him, tough titty.

"If". And it's a fallacious argument even without the "if". Outside of good-guy-takes-down-a-bunch-of-bad-guys-and-saves-the-girl movies, stealing from a thief is still stealing. But don't let that distract from your intertubes tough guy act. Let us know how that letter works out for you.



MrCryptoMixer seems to be the culprit.

There is no evidence of that.

I do know blockchain works, I just do not know how it works to levels of you mixer guys, as I do not need to wash my filthy bitcoin to evade being traced back to crime.
So its subjective to say to someone "You don't know how blockchain works" if you are referring for it to be used in a way that considered illegal or facilitates money laundering and funding terrorism.
I will say a person who can wash bitcoin must have a very high level of knowledge on blockchain, as well as a criminal behaviour to provide such a vehicle.

Yes one thief stealing from another is still wrong, but in society its a normal occurrence, and what one should expect when doing such activities that law wont protect you from.
Its a bit stupid really to cry and complain that someone stole something from you, that you potentially stole or sourced from other criminal activities isn't it.
Drug dealer gets shot and robbed, it happens. Murderer gets killed in prison, it happens. Do we say "oh my that's tragic"? No, we know its a part of the criminal world. Those who act in such circles will probably feel for another criminal loosing such wealth, people who have no association with crime will probably think the same as me. TOUGH SHIT
newbie
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@bitcoinflipper, why are you so agitated and why are you trying so hard to justify MrCryptoMixer's actions? You're all over the place dude.

What's your relation with MrCryptoMixer? Business partners? Or are you MrCryptoMixer? And if so, can't you use your mixer to mix the 13 BTC and be done with it? Or send OP his money back and get yourself some good karma.


I work with compliance, fraud etc with Crypto everyday, its not looking good for you.

You work with "with Crypto", whoever the fuck that is, and you have no idea how blockchain works. You should probably have your parents ration your internet access until you're at least 12.

have you seen his posts on Reddit?? Dude you are really naive i ll give you that

Doesn't make it right to steal from him, if that's what happened here.

Yes I know how blockchain works, I just do not know how these dodgy money laundering mixers for criminals work fortunately. I thought stopped existing years ago when they were outlawed.

I am not involved in the illegal use of Crypto, which takes up a small percentage of legitimate usage of Crpyto.

Not everyone uses Crypto for illegal activities any more, and does not need to use such mixers for what you all call privacy, but we all know its to wash dirty darknet coins tainted in blood, drugs, murder, child molestation, trafficking, funding terrorism and any other nasty activity you can think.

I love transaction monitoring on the blockchain, as it helps force you " I want privacy" mixers into your own little space away from compliant exchanges.
Oh but you use such mixers to then dump your coins on legitimate exchanges to cash out to fiat, because if you dump your coins directly to exchanges you will become one of those "Coinbase froze my account" guys.

I bet you mixers love chain analysis scoring

And anyone who owns such mixing service, how do you feel making money off someone who uses your mixer to wash some coins that came from crime or terrorism?
Oh you probably keep telling yourself, they just want privacy lol.
F'ing imbeciles, enjoy serving your criminals and making money off the back of it. You will get good karma


I'm going to need to see proof of your "clean" BTC. Please post all the addressees you hold and hashes of all the TXs you ever received.

While you're at it please also post your SSN and a photo of the front and back of your drivers license so that I can verify it's really you.

If you refuse to share your drivers license and SSN I will assume you are a criminal and have something to hide.

Don't have anything to hide? Put your money where your mouth is and post that information publicly here. Let's see if privacy really doesn't matter to you or are you just bullshitting.

Until you do that I will consider you a troll and a hypocrite.





Does anyone else find it strange that MrCryptoMixer has been MIA since 11th of March and these two shill accounts here are throwing dirt at the OP and trying to justify MrCryptoMixer's actions.

I have never used mixers nor do I care about them. And I don't care what the purpose was behind OP using a mixer. All I know is they got 13BTC stolen from them, and based on what I see here, MrCryptoMixer seems to be the culprit.

In any case, it looks like the address the BTC was sent to is still untouched. Whoever stole it knows what's coming for them if they move it elsewhere.

Quoting for my personal records.


Typical paranoid comments from a typical drug taking darknet user, believe me I kind of wish I was in Mr Crypto Mixers situation right now.
Being honest, I may well have done the same. I would of course check the originating wallet and its risk and links to crime, but 3 quarters of a million dollars, that some more than likely criminal idiot just dumped on your lap and expects you to wash it for him. Hard not to lets be honest here.

And I am not the one coming here asking for help with my 3 quarters of a million dollars in BTC am I? So I have no reason to divulge such information, please assume I am a criminal, when I have not come here telling everyone I have a high risk large amount of BTC, and tried to use a money laundering service for "privacy" reasons.
Anyone is going to assume such accusations considering the situation, do you not think?
Only another shady individual who understands Mr 13BTC's possible shady activity and use of needing to use a money laundering service would make other excuses for him.

Plus I am not stupid enough, nor am I a criminal that would need to use such dodgy services.
So I would only share my my ID and POA for KYC, and provide sufficient documentation to suffice the EDD AML regulation information, the "LEGITIMATE" exchange would require, in order to help me legally exchange my BTC to fiat or other coin. I also expect my privacy will be safe, as I have done nothing wrong for that legitimate exchange to want to share my information to a law enforcement agency.

Had the money been sourced from crime, related to a blacklisted/darknet wallet, or I had not been able to provide proof of source of funds, then yes my privacy would be a concern using a legitimate service.
I would expect them to share my information with a law enforcement agency, as well as hold my funds. Still it would be better than Mr Crypto Mixer running off with them.
So this individuals privacy issues are clear as to why he used such a service, is has nothing to do with sending small amounts to people, as I am sure his original wallet was not linked to any name in particular.

What I am confident is, his original wallet with the 13BTC was either on a blacklist, associated with the darknet, or provided a very low score thus showing it to be a high risk wallet.
Maybe Mr Crypto Mixer uses such tools to check wallets, and if he sees a one of the above mention wallets, he works his magic and washes the coin.
Now, if that is the case, then he has just taken something from a criminal, is he by law supposed to give them back? Or is he legally obliged to report the transaction? He is a criminal himself, so its now just a dispute between 2 criminals.
Again this is just assumptions, but its more than likely the case. As opposed to the morons here thinking this individual with 13BTC was completely legal, and he just mistakenly used a money laundering service for his clean bitcoin as he had privacy concerns. Don't play dumb! We all know.

What else do you expect from handing over your money to a shady unknown person?
He basically walked up the street, saw a guy dressed in black with face covered offering money laundering services, handed his money over and walked off. Very intelligent.

And so what if Mr Crypto Mixer is not to be heard of, he's quarter of a million dollars richer now. and if he HODL's he will be a millionaire soon.
He is most likely sailing off in the sunset, or he is masterminding another mixer site to rob more criminals.
I hope he gives money to the poor, then I would see him as a Robin Hood type character and say he's not so bad.

Plus these mixer sites I am sure are pretty hard to set up, and very complex and only a ew people have the knowledge and expertise to operate such a service. So you could expect all mixer stes are probably controlled by a few, and a legitimate (if you call it that) mixer site is possibly linked to this.
They are offering money laundering services, so they are criminals, I would never believe a mixer site owner to be anything else

If the owner of the 13BTC wants to provide his original wallet address, showing his 13BTC is not linked to anything. I will happily apologise and provide any information you require about myself.

But we all know his "privacy" reason wont allow him to.

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