Topic: MZC economic development ideas (Read 2045 times)

Well goodluck than m8.

"King Sized Star Blanket for 5.99M mzc (fixed rate offer for 3 months)"

so at todays price say MZC is strong so value is 3.99M mzc
but then tomorrow the price of MZC is weak so value is 7.99M mzc

the concept is tie 95% of the items to 'cost + margin of profit'
but set aside a reserve of items that are fixed rate MZC

Brilliant way to stabilize the value of a coin, if enough people do it.

Early on though, the problem would be

If Tomi's friends had, e.g. "$5,000" worth of goods, (today about "MZC80,000,000"), and the price of MZC vs fiat increased to the previous peak level in March 2014, then that merchandise would be worth "$500,000" or so in fiat. Not conducive to attracting customers.

In the other direction, if MZC value vs fiat decreased then the seller would not be able to sell MZC to cover expenses that had to be paid in fiat.

Obviously there has to be some sort of cushion provided, some intelligent variation of a "reserve" that could protect those who needed to operate across both fiat and MZC economies.

https://holvi.com/shop/TraditionalHandcraft/

this looks good.
if the "TraditionalHandcraft" shop can establish itself as a reputable merchant
and keeps a small inventory of hand crafts (say $3-$5000 of goods at retail price)
which act as reserves to back MAZA via fixed price in MZC

example you can buy a King Sized Star Blanket for 5.99M mzc (fixed rate offer for 3 months)

then that is a solid start in the right direction

What a refreshing thread. I have nothing more to add than r0ach, but with such a spirited idea, backing with a robust network that allows for complete autonomy may be worth investigation before it is dissolved by the cacophony of nonsense in which with live. Great initiative that continues to encapsulate why crypto can be a stepping stone to evolution.

What we don't have so far is a project that creates a complete economic ecosystem using MZC.

What we need is a connection with tribal elders and others interested in an independent Native economy.

There are a lot of people involved with MZC who are connected to the Native community, but there is no easy direct access for a MZC speculator who wants to offer help starting a business, or present ideas to that community.

There should be some way to connect the two groups. Is there a Native online forum that has people who might be receptive to MZC projects? I find http://forums.powwows.com/ on Yahoo search and will see if posting there and linking it to here gets ideas. (My post in the News section of the forum is awaiting moderation since I just registered).

Hi everyone, the plan goes like this - I will build web shops for Native American arts and crafts with MZC payment option included

This one is nearly ready (just have to implement the MZC payment option) ->

https://holvi.com/shop/TraditionalHandcraft

Meanwhile I will launch the Mazacoin Freedomland campaign at Indiegogo

MZC4Ever

Post script Mazavalue should be bined with the rich, brave and diverse culture of the American Natives

Native art sites
http://www.rivertradingpost.com/
http://www.artnatam.com/
https://www.nativeartsofamerica.com/
http://www.nativeart.net/

@Tomi
yes important
how to implement MZC to the shop

but I think you're moving in the right direction

also why not MAZA fund a revamp of one of those Native art sites to implement MZC (for both donation and purchase)

If I am not mistaken there are some altcoin payment processors that do deal in MZC. https://www.coinpayments.net/ is an example I found really fast. These things are generally geared towards online stores, so it should be easy to integrate.

ps. Cool shop and cool ppl for wanting to work with MZC. Maybe they want to do an auction of something specifically for MZC bidders only. I really think that art could be the foundation of a mazacoin economey. As crazy as it sounds lol, I think buying groceries with mzc will follow

excellent post! I think it really shows me where I went wrong trying to implement this idea. It would probably be much easier to find partners that are art dealers, rather than individual artists. The downside is it may be tricky to convince them not to convert it all to fait since they are probably already running an operation based on that.

For point 3, I think that MZC really does alot of the promoting in itself. Basically all mzc holders have answered a product survey with "yes I am interested in native cultural items." Really just with the activity in these forums we would have a good group of qualified prospects. The next step would be growing it from an active "club" to a business with constant new customers. I think we might be able to leverage some success just having something at all going, and get talked about on crypto news sites. (just one example of how to make it grow)

Another idea I had from an above post was about digital assets. If we are selling unique pieces of art we could add a cool touch by creating a blockchain based ownership token and give it to the buyer. This is as simple as saying 1 particular MZC=ownership rights of this artwork.

Hi u all brave Maza warriors

I have allready strated building web shops for native artist

- Tomi

ps. we just need a mastermind plan how to implement MZC to the shops

pps. I really like how it's active in this thread nowadays

My opinion...

1) Create a high quality auction or sale site: easy.

2) Find artists / tradespeople who will make use of the site even before it gets any publicity: a little difficult
Where do you find them?

3) Popularize the site: extremely difficult
New auction or sale sites are a dime a dozen. Almost none of them last a year.
Effectively marketing art sites is very difficult.

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Some examples of Native art sites

http://www.rivertradingpost.com/

http://www.artnatam.com/

https://www.nativeartsofamerica.com/

http://www.nativeart.net/

All of these sites rank very low on any measure of traffic. Some have some pretty severe technical flaws.

Maybe a more practical idea would be for somebody to make one high quality site then contact all of the Native art sites they can find and arrange a partnership. e.g. "We will post all of your art for sale on our site using our shopping cart system and will pay the artists with Mazacoin".

Good MZC ideas here. A lot of us MZC devs (e.g. coders, artists, anyone that likes the project) are in different time zones, but we can usually manage to keep track of conversations in our IRC channel. The best place for collaboration is probably there or the subreddit, but it can be difficult to stay on top of the Altcoin Discussion forum so this may not be your best bet.

Maybe if we use MZC as a medium but allow the artist to decide if they want to convert to fiat right away.  Or do half and half.  You right as it is hard to get artist to understand any type of technology.

I have tried to get this idea off the ground but didn't find any partners. But don't be discouraged cause maybe I didn't try very hard lol.

Anyways the idea is to find handcrafted stuff/art/one of a kind things. Then, create a site where there is an auction in MZC. This could help generally anyone who is holding mazacoin cause there is actually something cool to buy with it. Most importantly it would help native tradespeople find some new customers from a pool of people that kinda already showed interest in their culture (by being interested in MZC!)

When I tried to get it going a really hard part was just explaining mzc to artists lol... but I am sure some are also computer nerds and think it was a cool way to sell art!

I've never heard of this.  So transfering it to BitShares or NXT would create a new asset backed by Mazza.  I have been accumulating at lot of it.  I'm just looking for ways to implement it's original idea to help native peoples.

I'm not disagreeing that every group does that.

If American Natives 400 years ago had taken over Europe then the tables would be turned 180 degrees.

But we are talking here specifically about the United States vs American Natives.

No, that's the self hating, liberal, villify white people as the source of all evil view.  In reality, multiculturalism does not exist.  When you put together a bunch of different groups in a nation, the minority groups either assimilate with the ethnocentric majority, or you end with civil war and those groups splitting from each other.  It doesn't matter if the ethnocentric majority is European, Asian, or anything else.  That's how sociology works.  There is no white people conspiracy.

The most rational viewpoint ever presented on Indians vs Europeans by a Commanche Indian himself:

http://www.vdare.com/articles/david-yeagley-on-the-fear-of-a-white-planet

The goal is to help American Natives ignore the U.S. government without consequences, not have some better relationship with it.

Today American Natives are unified by their powerlessness. No matter where you go in the United States Natives are going to be slightly excluded from the power structure. The goal of the United States has always been to force Natives to convert to European culture or die. A lot have tried to convert, to survive, but on the whole they are still not assimilated. They are also unified by their lack of a proper economy and as far as I know by their lack of visible leadership amongst themselves.

Hundreds of years ago they were like 'micronations', but today more unified.

The question of 'governance' should not be tied to economic factors like currencies etc.

Economic issues are one thing, cryptos are a potential stepping stone to some more traditional economy. Governance another.

The connection between economics and governance is what has allowed the Natives in so many places to be so thoroughly fucked for so long.

If a person has commodities (food etc) or derivatives (currencies etc), it should not mean they are now in a position to be fucked by whoever controls the currency.

To my knowledge only federally recognized tribes receive funding from the federal government. It's obvious that the money (dollars) isn't helping those populations (corruption?). The way I see it, Native American reservations are micro-nations which claim to be sovereign nation states. I know for the Navajo Nation, if they (Navajo Gov) do not comply with the feds rules, they (federal gov) suspends funding. I'm not sure if it's the same for other Native Nations. It would seem that like Native American Nations (specifically Navajo Nation) are subjected to the federal gov's will and are controlled with an economic leash. Until that leash is severed or somehow the funding is linked to MZC, then I can't see crypto being used on Native Nations. Those populations need to know there is value behind the coin and is backed by Mathematics and isn't controlled by humans (whom are corruptible).

I think Native American Nations (micro-nations) are a good test bed for blockchain based governance imo (Bitnation/Etherum etc). Either way, I think it's a good idea for Native American living in poverty, to use something other than federal government's dollar. I think the deeper problem is that Native Americans Nations are not (at least technically) sovereign nation-states. More like a quasi-sovereign under strict supervision from the US Government.