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sr. member
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April 08, 2015, 11:35:24 PM
Brito hits the nail on the head here.

What, I'm now all of a sudden a troll in your Eyes? How convenient this must be to your small inner circle here! Fuck this! I have been and still am one of the biggest supporters and contributors of NLG. You of all people knows that extremely well Roel!!!

And it has never been a secret I have strong ties with Auroracoin, that has always been open on the table. The fact that I chose to support two coins the best way I can should not be held agains me!

Shame on you!

I hope I didn't have a small part to play in your and ny2cafuse teams change in attitude towards the development team. You guys defended it blindly without thinking that a project like a simulator would take ages and then it made me smile when you pushed for Digishield change because then /GeertJohan had no reason to work on the simulator.
The reason I never asked for the 20 000 NLG bet I made with you is because of your continued donations to various members in the community.

I am willing to take 2 more bets with you.

1. The Guldencoin development team will have the coin on Multi Algo within three months. 20k bet
2. AUR won't have any dev changes within three months. 20k bet

Having project managed for the last 10 years before becoming a partner in my company, I can see the bigger picture. Personally I wouldn't touch AUR with a ten foot pole and I would advise you to leave the management of this coin alone. Express more patience and you will see things fall into place and if I was you I wouldn't take on those bets. Wink

sr. member
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April 08, 2015, 05:10:29 PM
I missed on everything the dev team is doing so in my head they are doing nothing. Can somebody tell me what they have accomplished in 2015 and why they should receive 1mil nlg?

According to https://github.com/nlgcoin/Guldencoin nothing has been done since the DIGI update 3 months ago.

It's guys like Biomike that kept things rolling when the multipools were raping the coin, they have left now partially due to the one sided enforcements of the Dev team you try to defend.

Sad to see you have left for AUR Biomike, maybe criptoe and ltex will be wrong and you will come back if the team delivers.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 05:07:58 PM
it's very clear to me the development team is doing some work.
Great dev team now.

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Let 's get the positive spirit again. All included!


hero member
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April 08, 2015, 04:33:48 PM
Be weary of the



in this thread, it's very clear to me the development team is doing some work.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 04:13:38 PM
I missed on everything the dev team is doing so in my head they are doing nothing. Can somebody tell me what they have accomplished in 2015 and why they should receive 1mil nlg?

According to https://github.com/nlgcoin/Guldencoin nothing has been done since the DIGI update 3 months ago.

It looks like Malcolm is working in a separate repository next to the current one:

https://github.com/nlgcoin/guldencoin2

Thanks Patrick. Smiley

newbie
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April 08, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
I missed on everything the dev team is doing so in my head they are doing nothing. Can somebody tell me what they have accomplished in 2015 and why they should receive 1mil nlg?

According to https://github.com/nlgcoin/Guldencoin nothing has been done since the DIGI update 3 months ago.

It looks like Malcolm is working in a separate repository next to the current one:

https://github.com/nlgcoin/guldencoin2
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 04:06:33 PM
I missed on everything the dev team is doing so in my head they are doing nothing. Can somebody tell me what they have accomplished in 2015 and why they should receive 1mil nlg?

According to https://github.com/nlgcoin/Guldencoin nothing has been done since the DIGI update 3 months ago.

Hey Guys,

Nothing set in stone on amount and everyone is open to discuss it over here. Nobody gets anything until successful completion of the task.

https://community.guldencoin.com/t/beloning-voor-guldencoin-core-developers/924/29
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 03:58:24 PM
I missed on everything the dev team is doing so in my head they are doing nothing. Can somebody tell me what they have accomplished in 2015 and why they should receive 1mil nlg?

According to https://github.com/nlgcoin/Guldencoin nothing has been done since the DIGI update 3 months ago.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 03:49:40 PM
I missed on everything the dev team is doing so in my head they are doing nothing. Can somebody tell me what they have accomplished in 2015 and why they should receive 1mil nlg?
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 02:53:12 PM
Ah... man... was this needed? Guys, both of you, start to act professional.

To everybody else, start getting used to this. This won't be the last flamewar over here (would be nice if they could keep it to the official forums).
sr. member
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April 08, 2015, 01:07:13 PM
It was just a question and a simple "no" would have been enough.

A question on a forum. If you want simple answers like yes, no or I don't know, replace the forum with a poll. There're only two participants in this flamewar, you and LTEX. Stop it, don't feed it.

Please.

Jonah Falcon wins this fight.
sr. member
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April 08, 2015, 12:30:34 PM
It was just a question and a simple "no" would have been enough.

A question on a forum. If you want simple answers like yes, no or I don't know, replace the forum with a poll. There're only two participants in this flamewar, you and LTEX. Stop it, don't feed it.

Please.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 11:28:46 AM
Brito hits the nail on the head here.

What, I'm now all of a sudden a troll in your Eyes? How convenient this must be to your small inner circle here! Fuck this! I have been and still am one of the biggest supporters and contributors of NLG. You of all people knows that extremely well Roel!!!

And it has never been a secret I have strong ties with Auroracoin, that has always been open on the table. The fact that I chose to support two coins the best way I can should not be held agains me!

Shame on you!

The leadership of Guldencoin has been exemplary, since you are running AUR it must of dawned on you by now that running a successful project is not a easy feat and would surely take a united community to do this? Your actions are not uniting the community even if you truly believe your intentions are good.
It would be interesting to see the power you would have when your actions and feedback is done in a more positive and constructive demeanor, you might find you will have more ears that stand to attention and take note.

LTEX you know I have been on your side on some points in our PMs but maybe you need to take a timeout and see what the team delivers. The more that gets said the more you would want the team to fail to prove your point is right. My brother says any coin that lasts a year and is getting stronger will make it as a currency. Guldencoin has reached 1 year and has the best development team it's ever had.
Lets all work together.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 11:25:40 AM
Brito hits the nail on the head here.

What, I'm now all of a sudden a troll in your Eyes? How convenient this must be to your small inner circle here! Fuck this! I have been and still am one of the biggest supporters and contributors of NLG. You of all people knows that extremely well Roel!!!

And it has never been a secret I have strong ties with Auroracoin, that has always been open on the table. The fact that I chose to support two coins the best way I can should not be held agains me!

Shame on you!

Never said you were a troll, but what Brito says is plausible. You are effectively trying to break people away by bashing on GJ, that didn't work out so now Malcolm and Frank are in your crosshairs. We all support a few coins probably, I don't care if you own AUR or manage or lead that coin. Your contributions here go hand in hand with negativity for whatever reasons you may have. So Brito's suspicions are quite plausible in my opinion. Especially since you say you have close contacts to Balduro, who hasn't been online since April 29 2014.

Whatever you are doing, you are only causing harm to your own investment as well as all of ours. You accomplish nothing with this attempt to discredit devs that actually know how to code. All you do is talk. It would be nice of you if you stopped causing ruckus where ruckus isn't at its place.

And that inner circle shit is hilarious. At the meet up last Saturday it became clear that level-minded people with something in common (Guldencoin) can work together instantly and continuously without ever have seen each other. I saw Patrick there for the first time, but we have been working together for months. I have seen Cookie once. Been working together for months. Never saw Chromedome before Saturday but he got NLG onto Cryptocoinsnews that asked me some question based on his efforts, and a hell of a lot of exposure came from it. I help Rijk with the content on the main NLG website, written every piece of Dutch press we got out there, that is independent work towards making Guldencoin a success. Bram is effectively promoting NLG at every chance he has. So many people doing things on their own. There are a lot of people working on NLG for free, in their spare time and everyone's time is valuable. Just don't make your time more valuable than anyone else's, because it isn't.

If you don't like the way decentralized works and how independent parties and people can separately team up or work towards a common goal, then what is your goal with questioning and second-guessing, bashing the newly joined devs and other people's projects?
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April 08, 2015, 11:07:31 AM
Brito hits the nail on the head here.

What, I'm now all of a sudden a troll in your Eyes? How convenient this must be to your small inner circle here! Fuck this! I have been and still am one of the biggest supporters and contributors of NLG. You of all people knows that extremely well Roel!!!

And it has never been a secret I have strong ties with Auroracoin, that has always been open on the table. The fact that I chose to support two coins the best way I can should not be held agains me!

Shame on you!

The leadership of Guldencoin has been exemplary, since you are running AUR it must of dawned on you by now that running a successful project is not a easy feat and would surely take a united community to do this? Your actions are not uniting the community even if you truly believe your intentions are good.
It would be interesting to see the power you would have when your actions and feedback is done in a more positive and constructive demeanor, you might find you will have more ears that stand to attention and take note.
legendary
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ltex.nl
April 08, 2015, 11:02:56 AM
I see you moved your assumptions to Bitcointalk before replying at our official forum. That's fine, I will give some insight here aswell.

But how do you think guy's like Meije feel, who have invested way more hours than Malcolm so far on his GuldenCoin app and was completely ignored in his cryout for help from Rijk to get the costs for it funded.

Did you personally keep track of Meije's and Malcolm's invested hours? If so, how did you do that? Or did you make this statement out of perception?
It also seems you've missed this topic I started for Meije's GuldenCoinApp funding: https://community.guldencoin.com/t/jaarlijkste-kosten-guldencoinapp/867

Or what about Frais who has been totally ignored over and over with his offer to help put a good forum together, only to find a new forum shoved down the communities throats without any consultation?

As you are also aware, we've publicy discussed the fact that we did make a mistake here by not discussing the implementation of the new forum with the community first. After that we've started a poll to let people vote for the forum. Even you voted for the new forum, together with the majority, so what more would you like us to do about this subject?

Or what about CoinFreak who was on a roll getting a radio campaign funded, only to see he needed to sort it out himself, no help again, just ignored.

You are also aware that CoinFreak proposed his plan to the community at our official forum, we have a special section for that called "Community Projects Funding". The majority decided against funding of the project. But maybe that was because of a misunderstanding from CoinFreak's side about C.P.F. The way it works is that you present your project and ask for funding, not that you present your project and expect other people to do it for you.

Roel had Nocks funded with 1 million within 4 hours after the CPF saw daylight. Not that I think Nocks shouldn't have been funded, but I do see a pattern where the inner circle is getting their way, while the rest of the community gets ignored over and over again!

Roel is a perfect example of how C.P.F. works. He proposed his plan, asked for funding, community decided and he received it. After that he went to work and finished it.

But here we are, three dev's getting 1mm

Again you are aware, that I only proposed this publicy to the community at the CPF section. I explained why and let the community decide. Nothing has been given.

If Rijk would have consulted me on this

Well I did didn't I? Is there a specific reason that I should only ask you about this? Because I think the right path is asking the entire community, which you are a part of.

Advised against proposing this to the community

I thought you were the one who is against backchannels and behind the scenes decisions. Nobody is stopping you from paying for development or giving out other rewards.

It causes trouble in a community if you rule by diversion

What causes trouble is people ruling a decentralized project. I am not ruling or leading anything: it's decentralized. Everyone can decide for themselves if and how they help Guldencoin. If people need help or funding, we have a perfect place where they can ask for it. And we have lots of members who can help.

Thats why I will not accept that the lousy way this dev team tends to communicate does more harm to this community that it has already done!

What really does harm to the community, is you making such trouble about a simple question. I only proposed that we reward the three developers for their hard work. What you did is making the assumption that I proposed that because our developers asked for money. They have never asked for money or rewards. I asked. I asked the community, publicly. And you could have simply said: No.

Still a few questions here for you to answer LTEX

I'm done playing that game with you Rijk. I'm out of here for now. Focus on your team and take care of your community!
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 10:50:12 AM
Brito hits the nail on the head here.

What, I'm now all of a sudden a troll in your Eyes? How convenient this must be to your small inner circle here! Fuck this! I have been and still am one of the biggest supporters and contributors of NLG. You of all people knows that extremely well Roel!!!

And it has never been a secret I have strong ties with Auroracoin, that has always been open on the table. The fact that I chose to support two coins the best way I can should not be held agains me!


+1 LTEX.

Try to calm down all and tomorrow discuss as adults again. It is about trust and transparency. LTEX has some good points, I understand it. I also understand that some dev feel offended by LTEX with some words of mistrust. So I suggest let it rest for a day.

When this hot discussion is over Guldencoin will be stronger than ever, I am sure. United!

legendary
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ltex.nl
April 08, 2015, 10:43:53 AM
As a silent supporter of Guldencoin I will raise my suspicions on what I am seeing unfolding. LTEX has a conflict of interest between AUR and Guldencoin and I do think he wants both coins to succeed. AUR just does not have the support Guldencoin has, not even close. So causing a bit of shit here and there and getting a few ex guldencoin supporters to switch coins will be a benefit to him.

As per the post below by a ex Guldencoin supporter.

I have been in close contact with Balduro from the beginning. It has always been clear to me that his plan was to launch this project and setup the initial parameters, but he also made it clear he was not intending to run or manage things forever. He wanted to create a community that would take over for he was trying to make this a truly decentralized coin. That's why I still believe he will deliver on his promise to destroy the pre-mine once this community has proven to be able to be selfsupporting. This is what will happen shortly as Dinobotta described above...

Still, if nothing happens in a decent timeframe, we also have the opportunity to rule out the pre-mine addresses during the inevitable hard fork. So either way, we're good...

Interesting to see you here as well. I am looking around a bit, this last week, a bit tired of that nationcoin we were both interested in. Actually I am still am, when things change. I really hated the way the devs treated you, after doing so much for the coin. Btw,  I am still holding some aurora and after seeing you here, I am holding even longer, I guess. I really like your marketing performances. Something else, I found another interesting cheap coin MAGI (xmg) which looks very good, I think. At the moment, I am unloading the nationcoin ( you know which one I am talking about) a bit and investing in MAGI.
Well, best of luck with your projects.

Expect the flaming against the founders and devs to continue until AUR is able to get enough of a community to start itself up again.


Please LTEX don't do more damage here with comments, no fact AUR will be success where Guldencoin has 90% chance and you might end up with empty hands. It's like man who play two woman and they find out you been playing them and you lose both. Just advice.

Listen guys, I never started bringing up Auroracoin here, it is the fudfucks like Brito that do that. I simply have tried to answer politely to direct questions asked my NLG members here and even asked members from auroracoin who came here to stop that! Since MaNI joined NLG we have seen some PND guys here as well, are we going to hold that against him as well? Be reasonable please!
legendary
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ltex.nl
April 08, 2015, 10:35:26 AM
Brito hits the nail on the head here.

What, I'm now all of a sudden a troll in your Eyes? How convenient this must be to your small inner circle here! Fuck this! I have been and still am one of the biggest supporters and contributors of NLG. You of all people knows that extremely well Roel!!!

And it has never been a secret I have strong ties with Auroracoin, that has always been open on the table. The fact that I chose to support two coins the best way I can should not be held agains me!

Shame on you!
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April 08, 2015, 10:25:25 AM
As a silent supporter of Guldencoin I will raise my suspicions on what I am seeing unfolding. LTEX has a conflict of interest between AUR and Guldencoin and I do think he wants both coins to succeed. AUR just does not have the support Guldencoin has, not even close. So causing a bit of shit here and there and getting a few ex guldencoin supporters to switch coins will be a benefit to him.

As per the post below by a ex Guldencoin supporter.

I have been in close contact with Balduro from the beginning. It has always been clear to me that his plan was to launch this project and setup the initial parameters, but he also made it clear he was not intending to run or manage things forever. He wanted to create a community that would take over for he was trying to make this a truly decentralized coin. That's why I still believe he will deliver on his promise to destroy the pre-mine once this community has proven to be able to be selfsupporting. This is what will happen shortly as Dinobotta described above...

Still, if nothing happens in a decent timeframe, we also have the opportunity to rule out the pre-mine addresses during the inevitable hard fork. So either way, we're good...

Interesting to see you here as well. I am looking around a bit, this last week, a bit tired of that nationcoin we were both interested in. Actually I am still am, when things change. I really hated the way the devs treated you, after doing so much for the coin. Btw,  I am still holding some aurora and after seeing you here, I am holding even longer, I guess. I really like your marketing performances. Something else, I found another interesting cheap coin MAGI (xmg) which looks very good, I think. At the moment, I am unloading the nationcoin ( you know which one I am talking about) a bit and investing in MAGI.
Well, best of luck with your projects.

Expect the flaming against the founders and devs to continue until AUR is able to get enough of a community to start itself up again.


Please LTEX don't do more damage here with comments, no fact AUR will be success where Guldencoin has 90% chance and you might end up with empty hands. It's like man who play two woman and they find out you been playing them and you lose both. Just advice.
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