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Just to clarify. Nocks was funded out of pocket by me and Patrick. Guldenbuy got 1 million NLG in funding as a buffer to the volume that me and Cookie (who runs Guldenbuy and Paysafegulden with me) are getting on those sites to help grow to support the demand from people outside crypto. New people.

Hi Danslip,

As much as I appreciate your enthusiasm for Auroracoin, I would like to ask you not to suggest this here. It's not decent. Rest assured, I'm dedicated to both coins, no reason to worry...

Interesting that you pull two posts four months apart (probably my only posts here) that make no mention of Criptoe and draw that conclusion? Besides quoting two known members of Criptoe, where is your evidence. Maybe I am, maybe I'm not, does that change the fact that you didn't contradict my "boys club" accusation?  Nice try Sherlock

As much as I would like to believe that, I have to ask why it is then that you are already coming up with conspiracy theories about my work.

e.g. That I am supposedly having problems with scrypt, the only reason the possibility of dropping scrypt when multi-algo kicks in has come up at all is because some community members asked (on both this and the other forum) whether it is possible.
This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with technical limitations in either frank or mines code - in fact the scrypt code is already working, it would need to be in order for the port to be testable and for the current block chain to remain usable.
Dropping scrypt saves me exactly 0 work, if it is going to be dropped it will be based on a proper discussion about the merits of various algorithms and which ones we want to keep, a discussion we have already stated multiple times we want to have very soon on the community forums.


While I certainly don't expect people to accept the work I do without question - on the contrary I would find it quite unsettling if there was no input on various things, and have very little patience for yes men; suck-ups or fanboys - I certainly find it somewhat distasteful to have people already spreading rumours after such a short period of time and with no facts to back them up.

While I personally am not phased by such things, you may want to at least wait until I miss the first deadline or the first bug is found before you start casting stones or you may find it harder to attract developer talent in future, not all developers have a thick skin and most of us have 100s of projects begging us to join them, generally we want to get on with actual work and not be dragged into political battles (or whatever it is going on here).

Know that I am on probation, as you the Guldencoin community are with me, if the community doesn't like my work, or me, once I have actually delivered it, they are welcome to tell me to take a hike, likewise if I as a developer don't feel the community is one I see a future in I will be equally quick to move on elsewhere.
I'm not getting any further involved in this fight except to say that in the end it is the community that is getting harmed when things like this happen, perhaps this should be considered before turning every little discussion into a fight over the same thing and using bystanders as ammunition in that fight.

Iam 100% agree with LTEX here,.

Make a list how many dedicated members left the coin aside because of the same reasons!

Bluestreet gets my respect for his post. It looks to me as if there is a power struggle to gain control of Guldencoin, all I say is don't mess with something that is not broken... the coin has lasted and grown stronger over the last year why would anyone want to fuck with it now and change things?

You can snip my story into little pieces and pull things out of context by putting a question disguised as an answer on top of it all you like Rijk.

Fact remains, I'm fed up with the way you manage things! Please step down and become the treasurer of the coin or something. This is not about me mistrusting you with the pre-mine, it's mistrusting you with the responsibility that comes with steering this coin and it's community into the real world, that goes beyond that thick glass wall you live behind!

And NO I don't say this because I want your job! I just want someone on it that knows how to lead a community. And before you come up with another question like "what was I not clear about when talking about decentralized community", there is no such thing as a decentralized community! The coin might be decentralized, the community isn't! And leading is also not the same as controlling! A leader listens to his community and then helps it to chose the right path, there is no centralizing in that at all!

You seem to know a lot about the internal workings of the coins community for a person that claims he doesn't know much. Trying to get more people to dump out or making sure the coin doesn't succeed because you dumped out. It would be a real shame if the price had to go to 1000 if you dumped out a few weeks ago.

Smoke and mirrors here.

Are you also member of team Criptoe that left few weeks ago?

I can't comment much on this but that was not good if previous forum owner was not told.I agree with this if true.

I am just pleased that the development team is looking world class now and hope we don't demotivate their efforts and them getting involved in debates when they should be working on upgrading the coin.

Quote edited for brevity but LTEX is 100% right.  I'm not Dutch, never will be but I did hold a fair amount of NLG. I sold out a few weeks ago when I realised it was a boys club.  Not a "boys club" for the Dutch, just a boys club for the privileged few that "run" the coin. Lots of people put a lot of time, effort and money into supporting this coin, but if you aren't Rijk, /GJ or a friend, you get nothing.  If you are in the club - happy days - at everyone elses expense.   

Oh, but I'm in no way posting against Malcolm! And i seriously don't want to chase him away! I already said in the dutch reply he deserves to be paid for all I care!

This is not about MaNI is's about the way the DEV team choses to communicate and act within a very small and closed circle! I just read that even Cookie, the main admin and founder of the Guldencoin forum, was not told about the new forum as well. It was a complete surprise to him also! How in Satoshi's name can you justify that !?!?!?

No need to put a list together because I have read the forums and see you have donated and it's very kind of you.
No twisting from me I am just seeing that some posts are best left unsaid? Was there reason to put the devs profile on your post and make him look like he does not care?

Further digging into the pandacoin thread and you will see a different picture painted about MaNI.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.msg10820584;topicseen#msg10820584

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10821305

I hope for all our sakes the second poster is right, so why would you want to chase this dev away?

He wouldn't because the development team determines the early success of a coin. Do you think Dash formally known as Dark would be at it's current price without Evan Duffield? Let me answer this for you. NO!

Do you really want me to put a list together with all the donations I have already given to the members of this community? Come on, this is about what would have been wise for the dev team to do, don't twist it around!

Why not give NLG to the other people you think deserve it like you would of for the developers?

There is also topic in English section with updates if you have missed them.

https://community.guldencoin.com/t/guldencoin-development-updates/899/27

Let me be absolutely clear that I don't play games! I take this project extremely serious, which is why I raise these questions sometimes. Like myself there are many people who invested a lot into this, so I just want to stay sharp and watch over the shop!

I know some of you might confuse my vigor with complaining, but I have done nothing but giving to this community and never asked for anything in return, other than clarity and transparency.

Rijk might say it's outrageous to have a person like Malcolm even have to read such a thing, but how do you think guy's like Meije feel, who have invested way more hours than Malcolm so far on his GuldenCoin app and was completely ignored in his cryout for help from Rijk to get the costs for it funded. Or what about Frais who has been totally ignored over and over with his offer to help put a good forum together, only to find a new forum shoved down the communities throats without any consultation? Or what about CoinFreak who was on a roll getting a radio campaign funded, only to see he needed to sort it out himself, no help again, just ignored. Yes, Roel had Nocks funded with 1 million within 4 hours after the CPF saw daylight. Not that I think Nocks shouldn't have been funded, but I do see a pattern where the inner circle is getting their way, while the rest of the community gets ignored over and over again!

But here we are, three dev's getting 1mm each because they do such a great job. two of them not even here for more than a couple of weeks and without any real proof of progress shown to the community. And this while people like Bram or Jero put in great efforts too, or guy's like BioMike that have put in thousands of Euro's in profitless mining, just to keep the chain going while G-J has been playing with his, unused, simulator for over 9 months. Taking that in consideration I would say this is not a smart move at all. But you know what? I personally find it respect-less to them!

If Rijk would have consulted me on this and asked what I think of paying 1mm to the three dev's I would have advised against proposing this to the community and have quietly paid it from my personal account! Why? Because I do think they deserve to be rewarded if they deliver good work, but I also think others are entitled to rewards just the same and it causes trouble in a community if you rule by diversion. Leadership is not about making decisions, it's about overseeing the greater good of the community and aid it in making decisions!

And yes, I have invested thousands of Euro's and hundreds of hours into this project. That makes me a shareholder, just like all the other members who have given their fair share. And shareholders do tend to think they have a right to speak when they think their investment is being ill-managed!

You may think what you want of me, but know that I am here to support this project so we can achieve great things together. Thats why I will not accept that the lousy way this dev team tends to communicate does more harm to this community that it has already done!

Traders heaven indeed 

Most people will go insane looking at the day to day trades. Think back to how many times the price has raced to 650 and then comes back down again, this is the time most savvy investors pick up coins while the rest of the people sell in fear.

Still I wonder who is dumping at this rate and for what reason? It's not miners dumping looking at the amount of blocks solved.
If there is lack of support at the buy site this could go sour imo.