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legendary
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December 23, 2014, 11:31:47 AM


almost there

am very curious

Seems it is almost there, says Buerra on the forum. Curious also.
full member
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December 23, 2014, 11:30:06 AM
I wonder what's going on over here Smiley
Nothing! Coin is dead! Grin

Boohooo Sad Now I have to sell everything
legendary
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December 23, 2014, 11:23:42 AM
I wonder what's going on over here Smiley
Nothing! Coin is dead! Grin

hahaha lol for sure?
legendary
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ltex.nl
December 23, 2014, 11:21:24 AM
I wonder what's going on over here Smiley
Nothing! Coin is dead! Grin
legendary
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December 23, 2014, 11:11:18 AM
full member
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December 23, 2014, 11:10:40 AM
I wonder what's going on over here Smiley
legendary
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December 23, 2014, 11:09:34 AM


almost there

am very curious

sr. member
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December 23, 2014, 11:08:23 AM


DOOMED!
legendary
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December 23, 2014, 11:04:00 AM
legendary
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Merit: 1000
legendary
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Merit: 1000
December 23, 2014, 10:20:18 AM
newbie
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December 23, 2014, 04:38:51 AM
@ Dennis is it possible to get www.cryptocorner.nl on it also? Smiley

Sure ill put it on!
legendary
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December 23, 2014, 02:07:22 AM
Regarding the algorithm change we need to make sure it's done right. As most of you have correctly pointed out this is a long term project and we don't want to have too many forks on the blockchain. You can also look at this positively that clevermining is allowing us to get guldencoin cheaper because everything they mine is exchanged into btc. Once that stream comes to a end or slows down you won't get as much bang for your buck.

The end goal here is for users of NLG being able to do what they can with fiat as well as the other pros this form of currency offers.
RJF
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Online since '89...
December 22, 2014, 09:30:11 PM
I am fine with waiting until around March but I know others will get more impatient before I do. Do not get upset if I end up being right about the time it's taking the devs as I would rather be wrong and pay LTEX his 20 000 NLG. iOS was supposed to happen end of September and now we @ end of December, I know a working version of iOS was made but the algo change has caused mass delays. The algo change itself is being delayed by the simulator and if the simulator is not finished it's a get out of jail free card to keep delaying the algo change.

Want it done in 3 months or less, build the simulator just for use against Guldencoin network and not open source, sort out Guldencoins demons first before worrying about the rest of the world by providing open source product.

I will bet anyone here 20k NLG that a working open source simulator will take more then 3 months to build and we already 2-3 weeks in since /GeertJohan started his first live dev session.

From what I can read, you do owe LTEX 20k NLG.  The bet you made was for a working open source simulator taking more than 3 months.  A simulator was released a month later.  It might not have the features I personally want, but it has the features needed to call it a working simulator.  Pay up or shut up.

Of course, you're probably going to start saying that you meant the algo change the whole time, right?  Am I going to have to start putting your quotes together now so I don't have to do it later?

The fact of the matter is that the algo change could happen now if the community and devs want it to.  All they need to do is say the word, and I'll git pull request the DIGI changes by the end of the week.  A few wallet compiles later, and we could have it implemented before New Years.  But that's rushing it.  While I want it done now, I don't want to miss a step somewhere... like getting dev input on the matter.

However, you need to quit with timelines.  You've already proved you don't know your months from days.

-Fuse

I, for one, am fine with waiting. Rushing things in crypto equals failure and we don't want that. The current "price" ( I hate using that word ) is acceptable for the near future for long term investors such as myself. So, do it right, release when ready and keep the faith. Just me 2 cents...
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@halofirebtc
December 22, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
I'm just happy you're on our side, friend! Wink

I wouldn't concern myself with the dev team not reporting every other day or so, especially around this time for the holidays. Once 2015 rolls around and people get back into the swing of things, then yes. I will say GJ answers questions when he's addressed so I can't really put them down on that. I will continue to do my thing, as will they and yourself. You do make a difference in NLG, just take a break when you feel like this. "Nothing lost, Mr. Christian, nothing lost."

So Fuse, let's try it and ask: GJ, can you give us an update on how things are progressing, where things are at, where things will be? We miss youuuuuuuuu!

I totally understand about the time of year.  I in no way expect people to be here all day and night like I am some times lol... especially during the holidays.  When the team is ready to actively discuss the algo change here, I'll be watching.

I've had PM convos with /GJ about it, and they were very positive.  But they were PMs, and I would love to bring some of that discussion out into the open.  I just want to make sure I let them lead it.  Like I said, they're steering the ship.

So no real rush on making it happen right now... although a DIGI implementation on Xmas would be all I would want this year from Santa Smiley

-Fuse

I am fine with waiting until around March but I know others will get more impatient before I do. Do not get upset if I end up being right about the time it's taking the devs as I would rather be wrong and pay LTEX his 20 000 NLG. iOS was supposed to happen end of September and now we @ end of December, I know a working version of iOS was made but the algo change has caused mass delays. The algo change itself is being delayed by the simulator and if the simulator is not finished it's a get out of jail free card to keep delaying the algo change.

Not quite, the MP's and the nature of things have caused mass delays, not the simulator/algo change. Maybe delayed the coin from crashing, if that's what you're getting at. If GJ and Fuse and everyone else haven't been on top of things throughout the whole time, then this coin would be at sub-100 still and NLG would be crying for the attention of a MP at that point. Apparently there is enough BTC backing the exchanges to keep NLG where it is, from believers and NLG enthusiasts. So for you to be right or wrong, it really doesn't matter.
legendary
Activity: 1582
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HODL for life.
December 22, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
I am fine with waiting until around March but I know others will get more impatient before I do. Do not get upset if I end up being right about the time it's taking the devs as I would rather be wrong and pay LTEX his 20 000 NLG. iOS was supposed to happen end of September and now we @ end of December, I know a working version of iOS was made but the algo change has caused mass delays. The algo change itself is being delayed by the simulator and if the simulator is not finished it's a get out of jail free card to keep delaying the algo change.

Want it done in 3 months or less, build the simulator just for use against Guldencoin network and not open source, sort out Guldencoins demons first before worrying about the rest of the world by providing open source product.

I will bet anyone here 20k NLG that a working open source simulator will take more then 3 months to build and we already 2-3 weeks in since /GeertJohan started his first live dev session.

From what I can read, you do owe LTEX 20k NLG.  The bet you made was for a working open source simulator taking more than 3 months.  A simulator was released a month later.  It might not have the features I personally want, but it has the features needed to call it a working simulator.  Pay up or shut up.

Of course, you're probably going to start saying that you meant the algo change the whole time, right?  Am I going to have to start putting your quotes together now so I don't have to do it later?

The fact of the matter is that the algo change could happen now if the community and devs want it to.  All they need to do is say the word, and I'll git pull request the DIGI changes by the end of the week.  A few wallet compiles later, and we could have it implemented before New Years.  But that's rushing it.  While I want it done now, I don't want to miss a step somewhere... like getting dev input on the matter.

However, you need to quit with timelines.  You've already proved you don't know your months from days.

-Fuse
sr. member
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December 22, 2014, 06:17:05 PM
I'm just happy you're on our side, friend! Wink

I wouldn't concern myself with the dev team not reporting every other day or so, especially around this time for the holidays. Once 2015 rolls around and people get back into the swing of things, then yes. I will say GJ answers questions when he's addressed so I can't really put them down on that. I will continue to do my thing, as will they and yourself. You do make a difference in NLG, just take a break when you feel like this. "Nothing lost, Mr. Christian, nothing lost."

So Fuse, let's try it and ask: GJ, can you give us an update on how things are progressing, where things are at, where things will be? We miss youuuuuuuuu!

I totally understand about the time of year.  I in no way expect people to be here all day and night like I am some times lol... especially during the holidays.  When the team is ready to actively discuss the algo change here, I'll be watching.

I've had PM convos with /GJ about it, and they were very positive.  But they were PMs, and I would love to bring some of that discussion out into the open.  I just want to make sure I let them lead it.  Like I said, they're steering the ship.

So no real rush on making it happen right now... although a DIGI implementation on Xmas would be all I would want this year from Santa Smiley

-Fuse

I am fine with waiting until around March but I know others will get more impatient before I do. Do not get upset if I end up being right about the time it's taking the devs as I would rather be wrong and pay LTEX his 20 000 NLG. iOS was supposed to happen end of September and now we @ end of December, I know a working version of iOS was made but the algo change has caused mass delays. The algo change itself is being delayed by the simulator and if the simulator is not finished it's a get out of jail free card to keep delaying the algo change.



legendary
Activity: 1582
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HODL for life.
December 22, 2014, 05:36:44 PM
I'm just happy you're on our side, friend! Wink

I wouldn't concern myself with the dev team not reporting every other day or so, especially around this time for the holidays. Once 2015 rolls around and people get back into the swing of things, then yes. I will say GJ answers questions when he's addressed so I can't really put them down on that. I will continue to do my thing, as will they and yourself. You do make a difference in NLG, just take a break when you feel like this. "Nothing lost, Mr. Christian, nothing lost."

So Fuse, let's try it and ask: GJ, can you give us an update on how things are progressing, where things are at, where things will be? We miss youuuuuuuuu!

I totally understand about the time of year.  I in no way expect people to be here all day and night like I am some times lol... especially during the holidays.  When the team is ready to actively discuss the algo change here, I'll be watching.

I've had PM convos with /GJ about it, and they were very positive.  But they were PMs, and I would love to bring some of that discussion out into the open.  I just want to make sure I let them lead it.  Like I said, they're steering the ship.

So no real rush on making it happen right now... although a DIGI implementation on Xmas would be all I would want this year from Santa Smiley

-Fuse
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@halofirebtc
December 22, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
It's not your fault Fuse, you only volunteered to help and you have priorities at home with late nights and early mornings.
GJ and crew are the ones who are at the helm of the ship and should be employing these extras into the simulator especially since they decided to use a new language as in GO, which makes it that much harder for the rest of the world who volunteer to help them "simulate". But I have faith in the dev team and NLG crew, they mean well and will eventually come out on top. Smiley

As for investeerder, his claims are half true, half not. There's so much more to NLG than just BTCtalk, so his influence is limited. Besides, the market does what it wants to do on it's own with help from the MP's and investors combatting the MP's. There are more fiat dollars and euros in the world than BTC is worth that could be invested into BTC/NLG/crypto, that any "1-3 line" advice/projections from him won't really affect the market. I wouldn't let him bother you anymore. People see what he's trying to do, only a few people actually respond to him. But whether the price is 300, 400 or 500 satoshi now, it won't matter in a few years because the price at that time will be much more than it is now, so any blabbery or half-FUD doesn't make the difference now compared to the long term, it's just someone trying to get a few extra NLG or BTC for the short term.

Thanks, mate.  I'm not getting down on myself, I just feel like sometimes I need to do things instead of waiting for them to happen.  I've been slacking on learning GO.  If learning GO and creating the DIGI port in GO is what it is going to take to get some serious traction for the change, then I need to get working.

I have 99% faith in the dev team.  The other 1% would swing towards faith if they were active in discussing a plan of action.  It's a short-term lapse of faith, but not much.  I just want to see a plan, or at least a very active discussion about making a plan.  Other than that, I'm behind their decisions in the direction this coin is going.  I would just like to see more communication by the devs so that we can work on a plan of action.  If NLG is the ship, and the dev team is the rudder, then me and my team are there to help raise the sails whenever it's needed.  We just need to know when the wind is blowing.

As far as investeerder goes, it's no skin off my back.  I just don't want people dumping the price of NLG because some dope told them it would fix all their issues.  I've said it before and I'll say it every time someone mentions it... price manipulation is never a fix.

-Fuse

I'm just happy you're on our side, friend! Wink

I wouldn't concern myself with the dev team not reporting every other day or so, especially around this time for the holidays. Once 2015 rolls around and people get back into the swing of things, then yes. I will say GJ answers questions when he's addressed so I can't really put them down on that. I will continue to do my thing, as will they and yourself. You do make a difference in NLG, just take a break when you feel like this. "Nothing lost, Mr. Christian, nothing lost."

So Fuse, let's try it and ask: GJ, can you give us an update on how things are progressing, where things are at, where things will be? We miss youuuuuuuuu!
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
HODL for life.
December 22, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
It's not your fault Fuse, you only volunteered to help and you have priorities at home with late nights and early mornings.
GJ and crew are the ones who are at the helm of the ship and should be employing these extras into the simulator especially since they decided to use a new language as in GO, which makes it that much harder for the rest of the world who volunteer to help them "simulate". But I have faith in the dev team and NLG crew, they mean well and will eventually come out on top. Smiley

As for investeerder, his claims are half true, half not. There's so much more to NLG than just BTCtalk, so his influence is limited. Besides, the market does what it wants to do on it's own with help from the MP's and investors combatting the MP's. There are more fiat dollars and euros in the world than BTC is worth that could be invested into BTC/NLG/crypto, that any "1-3 line" advice/projections from him won't really affect the market. I wouldn't let him bother you anymore. People see what he's trying to do, only a few people actually respond to him. But whether the price is 300, 400 or 500 satoshi now, it won't matter in a few years because the price at that time will be much more than it is now, so any blabbery or half-FUD doesn't make the difference now compared to the long term, it's just someone trying to get a few extra NLG or BTC for the short term.

Thanks, mate.  I'm not getting down on myself, I just feel like sometimes I need to do things instead of waiting for them to happen.  I've been slacking on learning GO.  If learning GO and creating the DIGI port in GO is what it is going to take to get some serious traction for the change, then I need to get working.

I have 99% faith in the dev team.  The other 1% would swing towards faith if they were active in discussing a plan of action.  It's a short-term lapse of faith, but not much.  I just want to see a plan, or at least a very active discussion about making a plan.  Other than that, I'm behind their decisions in the direction this coin is going.  I would just like to see more communication by the devs so that we can work on a plan of action.  If NLG is the ship, and the dev team is the rudder, then me and my team are there to help raise the sails whenever it's needed.  We just need to know when the wind is blowing.

As far as investeerder goes, it's no skin off my back.  I just don't want people dumping the price of NLG because some dope told them it would fix all their issues.  I've said it before and I'll say it every time someone mentions it... price manipulation is never a fix.

-Fuse
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