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legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
September 05, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
i dont know guys but do you guys want to get on cryptsy, mintpal soon or later?

Hi Sharkzz,

I believe that will happen sooner or later without any request from us. I think it's better that they notice us and approach us to be added to there exchange. Smiley
However if you prefer trading on a certain exchange please feel free to mail any exchange that you trust to get us added.

Using the timeline is the best way to describe what the coin has done so far.

https://timeline.guldencoin.com
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
September 05, 2014, 04:38:36 AM
i dont know guys but do you guys want to get on cryptsy, mintpal soon or later?

mintpal is oke
sr. member
Activity: 880
Merit: 251
Think differently
September 05, 2014, 04:37:03 AM
i dont know guys but do you guys want to get on cryptsy, mintpal soon or later?
legendary
Activity: 1197
Merit: 1001
September 05, 2014, 04:26:27 AM
One more week guys! Next week the API payment implentation for NLG into our webshops will be done.

After that you will be able to buy stuff with NLG @ www.minepc.nl , www.101ledstrips.nl , www.cryptogame.nl , www.fotoboxxl.nl and www.pcirisers.nl

Nice stores man!

Will you also be giving 10% discount on NLG purchases?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
September 05, 2014, 04:24:40 AM
What ever happens, I'm not selling any of my coins. I stepped in on the right time and sure as hell not going to sell any time soon. If the price drops ill even buy more;)

I know what you mean, but do spend, it'sgood voor de Gulden economy. Even yesterday I spend some coins getting coffee over at Coffee Central in Leeuwarden. Sometimes spending some will make you more..

C.

Whatever I plan to spend, I will buy back in to get NLG back, mining x11 coins is still giving me some coins but not like it was 2 weeks ago.

Always have 100 euro of guldens in my wallet ready to spend!

Also it makes me very happy to spend and talk to merchants about crypto
legendary
Activity: 1197
Merit: 1001
September 05, 2014, 04:13:52 AM
What ever happens, I'm not selling any of my coins. I stepped in on the right time and sure as hell not going to sell any time soon. If the price drops ill even buy more;)

I know what you mean, but do spend, it'sgood voor de Gulden economy. Even yesterday I spend some coins getting coffee over at Coffee Central in Leeuwarden. Sometimes spending some will make you more..

C.

Whatever I plan to spend, I will buy back in to get NLG back, mining x11 coins is still giving me some coins but not like it was 2 weeks ago.
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
September 05, 2014, 04:11:17 AM
What ever happens, I'm not selling any of my coins. I stepped in on the right time and sure as hell not going to sell any time soon. If the price drops ill even buy more;)

I know what you mean, but do spend, it'sgood voor de Gulden economy. Even yesterday I spend some coins getting coffee over at Coffee Central in Leeuwarden. Sometimes spending some will make you more..

C.
legendary
Activity: 1197
Merit: 1001
September 05, 2014, 04:10:46 AM
What ever happens, I'm not selling any of my coins. I stepped in on the right time and sure as hell not going to sell any time soon. If the price drops ill even buy more;)

Dennis, I sold 20k NLG(About 50% of coins I own) when the price rose, I never felt so bad in my stomach and bought back in immediately at a bit higher price unfortunately. I will only be parting with coins when i buy from merchants. Man it's going to be so cool when I show my friends.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
September 05, 2014, 04:09:27 AM
We are going to be releasing a best practices guidelines over the course of the weekend in Dutch and English regarding your wallet.

This will include multiple backups, password protecting USB sticks, using winrar password protection and cloud storage which should protect your funds from any event. As the coin gains more usage it's very important that your protect your funds, your money is in your hands now, while this gives you freedom it's up to you to protect it and we are here to assist.



Keep rocking it bro's! Great job
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
September 05, 2014, 04:05:47 AM
What ever happens, I'm not selling any of my coins. I stepped in on the right time and sure as hell not going to sell any time soon. If the price drops ill even buy more;)
legendary
Activity: 1197
Merit: 1001
September 05, 2014, 04:02:41 AM
Looks like someone wants over 500k NLG at 1274. 1680 * 2 = 3360. That is the total amount of people that can ever own over 500k.lol

I really wish i owned that much btc, I would buy up everything to 1700 Sad .
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
September 05, 2014, 03:45:29 AM
Looks like someone wants over 500k NLG at 1274. 1680 * 2 = 3360. That is the total amount of people that can ever own over 500k.lol
hero member
Activity: 637
Merit: 500
September 05, 2014, 03:31:26 AM
I don't think any of us NLG lovers can be happier that we sitting in 40th place now on coinmarketcap above megacoin. It's the perfect spot for the coin to not create too much attention and give the coin a chance to release more stuff without too much pressure. Once you in the top 20 , a lot of eyes are on your every move, but no one cares about 40th place. Smiley
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 504
September 05, 2014, 03:27:06 AM
the price is down! guldencoin lovers bring the price to 1600 satoshi or higher  https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

somebody is bring the price down, don't let him do that

How Huh

If I read your message correctly, you mean to ask how they bring the price down, right?

They do it like this; there are 2 or more traders working together as a team or they might even work together as a trading company.
Some of these traders put small sell orders at gradually lower prices, and their team-mates buy the small orders at lower price.
Like this, these traders manipulate the price downwards. The ordercosts are so low they can be neglected. In fact they are moving their NLG back and forth from one of their Bittrex trading accounts to the other.

Their goal is luring miners and other traders to sell their NLG at the lower prices. The trading team buys these low-priced orders from other sellers too and stacks their NLG.
Once the trading-team has enough NLG, they will stop manipulating the price, and up the price goes. Then the team sells their NLG and makes a lot of profits.

You can see this happening by looking at the order sizes and prices; if there many small orders of i.e. up to 1000 NLG and many small decreasing price-steps,
then you can rest assured the above tactics are being played.

Big question is how to beat this? First of all, do not sell at the current price-level. Remember NLG went up to 1900 satoshi, and rest assured it will bypass that value in near future.
The less NLG the manipulating traders can buy, the sooner they will refrain from manipulating.

2nd option is to buy their small low priced orders, as that makes their NLG stack decline and that is the opposite of their goal.

Let's kick some :-)  




it seems the trading-team stepped up their game right now...
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 504
September 05, 2014, 02:51:48 AM
the price is down! guldencoin lovers bring the price to 1600 satoshi or higher  https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

somebody is bring the price down, don't let him do that

How Huh

If I read your message correctly, you mean to ask how they bring the price down, right?

They do it like this; there are 2 or more traders working together as a team or they might even work together as a trading company.
Some of these traders put small sell orders at gradually lower prices, and their team-mates buy the small orders at lower price.
Like this, these traders manipulate the price downwards. The ordercosts are so low they can be neglected. In fact they are moving their NLG back and forth from one wallet to the other.

Their goal is luring miners and other traders to sell their NLG at the lower prices. The trading team buys these low-priced orders from other sellers too and stacks their NLG.
Once they have enough NLG they will stop manilpulating the price, and up the price goes.

You can see this happening by looking at the order sizes and prices; if there many small orders of i.e. up to 1000 NLG and many small decreasing price-steps,
then you can rest assured the above tactics are being played.

Big question is how to beat this? First of all, do not sell at the current price-level. Remember NLG went up to 1900 satoshi, and rest assured it will bypass that value in near future.
The less NLG the manipulating traders can buy, the sooner they will refrain from manipulating.

2nd option is to buy their small low priced orders, as that makes their NLG stack decline and that is the opposite of their goal.

Let's kick some :-)   




I can confirm this is the case, I often see same amount in sales of btc, then same btc amount being put in lower to buy more NLG. This is why the coin hasn't been dumped out to below 1000 because others are taking out there lower order sales. It's funny to watch. Never seen it before except with DRK at one stage.

Especially for you Bluestreet :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77MM6rwwucc
legendary
Activity: 988
Merit: 1000
September 05, 2014, 02:40:18 AM
the price is down! guldencoin lovers bring the price to 1600 satoshi or higher  https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

somebody is bring the price down, don't let him do that

How Huh

If I read your message correctly, you mean to ask how they bring the price down, right?

They do it like this; there are 2 or more traders working together as a team or they might even work together as a trading company.
Some of these traders put small sell orders at gradually lower prices, and their team-mates buy the small orders at lower price.
Like this, these traders manipulate the price downwards. The ordercosts are so low they can be neglected. In fact they are moving their NLG back and forth from one wallet to the other.

Their goal is luring miners and other traders to sell their NLG at the lower prices. The trading team buys these low-priced orders from other sellers too and stacks their NLG.
Once they have enough NLG they will stop manilpulating the price, and up the price goes.

You can see this happening by looking at the order sizes and prices; if there many small orders of i.e. up to 1000 NLG and many small decreasing price-steps,
then you can rest assured the above tactics are being played.

Big question is how to beat this? First of all, do not sell at the current price-level. Remember NLG went up to 1900 satoshi, and rest assured it will bypass that value in near future.
The less NLG the manipulating traders can buy, the sooner they will refrain from manipulating.

2nd option is to buy their small low priced orders, as that makes their NLG stack decline and that is the opposite of their goal.

Let's kick some :-)  




I can confirm this is the case, I often see same amount in sales of btc, then same btc amount being put in lower to buy more NLG. This is why the coin hasn't been dumped out to below 1000 because others are taking out there lower order sales. It's funny to watch. Never seen it before except with DRK at one stage.
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 504
September 05, 2014, 02:34:37 AM
the price is down! guldencoin lovers bring the price to 1600 satoshi or higher  https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

somebody is bring the price down, don't let him do that

How Huh

If I read your message correctly, you mean to ask how they bring the price down, right?

They do it like this; there are 2 or more traders working together as a team or they might even work together as a trading company.
Some of these traders put small sell orders at gradually lower prices, and their team-mates buy the small orders at lower price.
Like this, these traders manipulate the price downwards. The ordercosts are so low they can be neglected. In fact they are moving their NLG back and forth from one of their Bittrex trading accounts to the other.

Their goal is luring miners and other traders to sell their NLG at the lower prices. The trading team buys these low-priced orders from other sellers too and stacks their NLG.
Once the trading-team has enough NLG, they will stop manipulating the price, and up the price goes. Then the team sells their NLG and makes a lot of profits.

You can see this happening by looking at the order sizes and prices; if there many small orders of i.e. up to 1000 NLG and many small decreasing price-steps,
then you can rest assured the above tactics are being played.

Big question is how to beat this? First of all, do not sell at the current price-level. Remember NLG went up to 1900 satoshi, and rest assured it will bypass that value in near future.
The less NLG the manipulating traders can buy, the sooner they will refrain from manipulating.

2nd option is to buy their small low priced orders, as that makes their NLG stack decline and that is the opposite of their goal.

Let's kick some :-)  


hero member
Activity: 673
Merit: 506
September 05, 2014, 02:25:15 AM
You can calculate all the formulas you want, but mining has always followed (and will follow) market price, not the other way around.
And how do you think that marketprice is determined ? Any serious miner will want to make money, simple as that, so if your total investment in equipment and your running cost will be higher than your return on investment there's no point mining if that will actually cost you money. I have provided this information simply as a tool for people to use or not to use, nothing more and nothing less Smiley

Marketprice is determined by supply and demand. The quality of the coin (active devs, community, shops accepting it, etc.) determines this. You can invest all your money in some mining equipment to mine some coin, but if nobody wants the coin you can wait for ages to sell them. You can can calculate the marketprice is 1000 BTC (because of your investments), but if nobody will buy it... who are you fooling? In the mean time your equipment breaks down and electricity still has to be paid. Hence you will stop mining because you can't sell the coins (Miner follows the market, the market doesn't follow the miner).

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Edit: When bottom is found most of the miners will hold their coins for higher prices again. Question is what is the bottom.
Just waiting for the moment the bulls are back in town  

Again, miners following the market.

I think you are completely missing my point here, the calculation gives you the break even point, to make it easier to determine to mine or not to mine at current market price, so yes it follows the market so I don't understand your arguing when it simply does what you stated Huh


Let's get the quote back that started this:

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There is always a bottom for every coin, and there are parts that can be calculated, a mining rig costs money to buy, running a mining rig consumes electricity which also costs money in most cases.

This bottom (market value) is not determined by miners and the bottom is not the break-even point (market value that needs to be for ROI). Two different things, yet you put them in the same sentence... so yeah, I think I completely missed your point. But I know what you mean now. Wink


Basically it is just a profitability calculation, the bottom is of course dynamic as factors like networkhashrate will change all the time Smiley And of course the calculation is very personal, if you have a different miner or different energycosts your bottom will look different too.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
September 05, 2014, 02:24:17 AM
We are going to be releasing a best practices guidelines over the course of the weekend in Dutch and English regarding your wallet.

This will include multiple backups, password protecting USB sticks, using winrar password protection and cloud storage which should protect your funds from any event. As the coin gains more usage it's very important that your protect your funds, your money is in your hands now, while this gives you freedom it's up to you to protect it and we are here to assist.

legendary
Activity: 1658
Merit: 1001
September 05, 2014, 02:18:58 AM
You can calculate all the formulas you want, but mining has always followed (and will follow) market price, not the other way around.
And how do you think that marketprice is determined ? Any serious miner will want to make money, simple as that, so if your total investment in equipment and your running cost will be higher than your return on investment there's no point mining if that will actually cost you money. I have provided this information simply as a tool for people to use or not to use, nothing more and nothing less Smiley

Marketprice is determined by supply and demand. The quality of the coin (active devs, community, shops accepting it, etc.) determines this. You can invest all your money in some mining equipment to mine some coin, but if nobody wants the coin you can wait for ages to sell them. You can can calculate the marketprice is 1000 BTC (because of your investments), but if nobody will buy it... who are you fooling? In the mean time your equipment breaks down and electricity still has to be paid. Hence you will stop mining because you can't sell the coins (Miner follows the market, the market doesn't follow the miner).

Quote
Edit: When bottom is found most of the miners will hold their coins for higher prices again. Question is what is the bottom.
Just waiting for the moment the bulls are back in town 

Again, miners following the market.

I think you are completely missing my point here, the calculation gives you the break even point, to make it easier to determine to mine or not to mine at current market price, so yes it follows the market so I don't understand your arguing when it simply does what you stated Huh


Let's get the quote back that started this:

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There is always a bottom for every coin, and there are parts that can be calculated, a mining rig costs money to buy, running a mining rig consumes electricity which also costs money in most cases.

This bottom (market value) is not determined by miners and the bottom is not the break-even point (market value that needs to be for ROI). Two different things, yet you put them in the same sentence... so yeah, I think I completely missed your point. But I know what you mean now. Wink

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