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October 23, 2015, 11:09:46 AM
Welcome back Fuse  Grin Good to see you still following the topic.

I don't.  Someone let me know about this stuff.  And no, it wasn't LTEX.  I'll go back to unwatching this thread now.  If anyone has anything to say to me, you can bring it up in PM.

-Fuse

Must of been THSminer from criptoe team, he still posts here. 10th October was his last one and I think he still follows Gulden, you should too.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12653905
legendary
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October 23, 2015, 11:08:59 AM
Be honest Ltex was holding your pocket when he whisper in your ear.

He must stay to bring price down much. Fuse tell community why dev team is shit.

When you troll and suck as always: I think the price will go up now  Grin Cheesy
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October 23, 2015, 11:05:49 AM
Welcome back Fuse  Grin Good to see you still following the topic.

I don't.  Someone let me know about this stuff.  And no, it wasn't LTEX.  I'll go back to unwatching this thread now.  If anyone has anything to say to me, you can bring it up in PM.

-Fuse

Be honest Ltex was holding your pocket when he whisper in your ear.
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October 23, 2015, 11:03:26 AM

LTEX I know Biomike and criptoe are your sock puppets and the team will have there sock puppets supporting them. You do the thinking for biomike and criptoe and team does thinking for it's supporters. Not everyone can have their needs met.


I truly don't know where you always get the impression I'm controlling anything or have sock puppets working for me. FYI, I'm the only one here that is member of Criptoe, no other active member here as far as I know. And BioMike is a big boy, that can perfectly speak for himself. As far as I'm concerned I'm one of the community members of Gulden, just as you are. I might be a bit more concerned with things than others, but that doesn't mean I'm trying to dictate things.

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I have an idea for the team, shutdown the official forum and let a person in the community build one. 99% of the other coins have forums setup by community then it doesn't become your issue and everyone is content. Like others have said it's a waste of time for the team to be focussing on something as trivial as a forum.

Now this is something I fully agree on. This is also the reason why this discussion keeps coming back again and again. Why? Because it's not us, the community members who get to decide what forum is going to be used, that is being dictated by the ones in control of the media, being the Dev's. They refuse to cooperate in building a community forum the community (by large majority) asks for. They singlesidedly changed "our" forum overnight into something very technical, without any consultation whatsoever. A vast majority complained about that and kept asking to go back to the old one. Up to this moment, Rijk refuses to even discuss that.

So explain to me how the dev team is here only to serve the majority of the community, while they even refuse to let that community use their main means of existence the way they ask for?

1. Biomike and Criptoe are with you on AUR team? This tells me they agree with you and will side with you whatever you say. It is just human nature as you have close relationship.

2. The community can serve the majority of the community. I do agree the switch over to new forum without consultation wasn't very smart and premature. Have they done this again since? They also human and will make mistakes and that was a mistake sure but to keep on and on about the same shit is getting old.
Stop complaining and build a new forum.

I've kept my mouth shut for a very long time, but I'm starting to get sick of this shit with dragging my team(Criptoe) through the mud in this fucking childish, dick-measuring display of power.  Leave us out of your little community shouting match.  We are no sock puppets to anyone.  We don't follow whatever LTEX says, as evident by the fact that my entire team, with the exception of LTEX, sold out of NLG and walked away.  I've told LTEX over and over again to just sit on his coins and walk away, or sell out and have fewer grey hairs this year.  We walked away because we didn't want to be a part of this circus anymore, he chose to stay.  That should tell you something.

And what, because we said we'd help out when we could with AUR, we're mindless zombies blindly following LTEX?  We were asked by the foundation members if we wanted to help out.  We gladly accepted, as it was a breathe of fresh air after trying to work with people here.  Some of the team already had holdings in AUR.  It was a coin we were already interested in because of it's early distribution model.  We didn't go because LTEX said "do it".

So frankly, fuck off if you can't get your facts straight.  You, that guy berry, and anyone else that wants to drag us into this community fight after us walking away like 8 months ago.  I'm tired of people dragging my team through the mud because they can't find anything else to back up their arguments.

We walked away.  Let us be for fucks sake.

-Fuse

Welcome back Fuse  Grin Good to see you still following the topic.

He must stay to bring price down much. Fuse tell community why dev team is shit.
legendary
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October 23, 2015, 11:02:39 AM
Welcome back Fuse  Grin Good to see you still following the topic.

I don't.  Someone let me know about this stuff.  And no, it wasn't LTEX.  I'll go back to unwatching this thread now.  If anyone has anything to say to me, you can bring it up in PM.

-Fuse
legendary
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October 23, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
We walked away.  Let us be for fucks sake.

Hi Fuse. I still like the fysic Guldencoins very much. Thanks for that, it is also part of the history of Gulden. Nice projects are on the way here Smiley Also wish you succes with AUR and hope misunderstandings of the past can vanish. That are old cows, new positiv energy is born out of it.
All unite again, that's all.


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October 23, 2015, 10:57:45 AM

LTEX I know Biomike and criptoe are your sock puppets and the team will have there sock puppets supporting them. You do the thinking for biomike and criptoe and team does thinking for it's supporters. Not everyone can have their needs met.


I truly don't know where you always get the impression I'm controlling anything or have sock puppets working for me. FYI, I'm the only one here that is member of Criptoe, no other active member here as far as I know. And BioMike is a big boy, that can perfectly speak for himself. As far as I'm concerned I'm one of the community members of Gulden, just as you are. I might be a bit more concerned with things than others, but that doesn't mean I'm trying to dictate things.

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I have an idea for the team, shutdown the official forum and let a person in the community build one. 99% of the other coins have forums setup by community then it doesn't become your issue and everyone is content. Like others have said it's a waste of time for the team to be focussing on something as trivial as a forum.

Now this is something I fully agree on. This is also the reason why this discussion keeps coming back again and again. Why? Because it's not us, the community members who get to decide what forum is going to be used, that is being dictated by the ones in control of the media, being the Dev's. They refuse to cooperate in building a community forum the community (by large majority) asks for. They singlesidedly changed "our" forum overnight into something very technical, without any consultation whatsoever. A vast majority complained about that and kept asking to go back to the old one. Up to this moment, Rijk refuses to even discuss that.

So explain to me how the dev team is here only to serve the majority of the community, while they even refuse to let that community use their main means of existence the way they ask for?

1. Biomike and Criptoe are with you on AUR team? This tells me they agree with you and will side with you whatever you say. It is just human nature as you have close relationship.

2. The community can serve the majority of the community. I do agree the switch over to new forum without consultation wasn't very smart and premature. Have they done this again since? They also human and will make mistakes and that was a mistake sure but to keep on and on about the same shit is getting old.
Stop complaining and build a new forum.

I've kept my mouth shut for a very long time, but I'm starting to get sick of this shit with dragging my team(Criptoe) through the mud in this fucking childish, dick-measuring display of power.  Leave us out of your little community shouting match.  We are no sock puppets to anyone.  We don't follow whatever LTEX says, as evident by the fact that my entire team, with the exception of LTEX, sold out of NLG and walked away.  I've told LTEX over and over again to just sit on his coins and walk away, or sell out and have fewer grey hairs this year.  We walked away because we didn't want to be a part of this circus anymore, he chose to stay.  That should tell you something.

And what, because we said we'd help out when we could with AUR, we're mindless zombies blindly following LTEX?  We were asked by the foundation members if we wanted to help out.  We gladly accepted, as it was a breathe of fresh air after trying to work with people here.  Some of the team already had holdings in AUR.  It was a coin we were already interested in because of it's early distribution model.  We didn't go because LTEX said "do it".

So frankly, fuck off if you can't get your facts straight.  You, that guy berry, and anyone else that wants to drag us into this community fight after us walking away like 8 months ago.  I'm tired of people dragging my team through the mud because they can't find anything else to back up their arguments.

We walked away.  Let us be for fucks sake.

-Fuse

Welcome back Fuse  Grin Good to see you still following the topic.
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October 23, 2015, 10:43:32 AM

LTEX I know Biomike and criptoe are your sock puppets and the team will have there sock puppets supporting them. You do the thinking for biomike and criptoe and team does thinking for it's supporters. Not everyone can have their needs met.


I truly don't know where you always get the impression I'm controlling anything or have sock puppets working for me. FYI, I'm the only one here that is member of Criptoe, no other active member here as far as I know. And BioMike is a big boy, that can perfectly speak for himself. As far as I'm concerned I'm one of the community members of Gulden, just as you are. I might be a bit more concerned with things than others, but that doesn't mean I'm trying to dictate things.

Quote
I have an idea for the team, shutdown the official forum and let a person in the community build one. 99% of the other coins have forums setup by community then it doesn't become your issue and everyone is content. Like others have said it's a waste of time for the team to be focussing on something as trivial as a forum.

Now this is something I fully agree on. This is also the reason why this discussion keeps coming back again and again. Why? Because it's not us, the community members who get to decide what forum is going to be used, that is being dictated by the ones in control of the media, being the Dev's. They refuse to cooperate in building a community forum the community (by large majority) asks for. They singlesidedly changed "our" forum overnight into something very technical, without any consultation whatsoever. A vast majority complained about that and kept asking to go back to the old one. Up to this moment, Rijk refuses to even discuss that.

So explain to me how the dev team is here only to serve the majority of the community, while they even refuse to let that community use their main means of existence the way they ask for?

1. Biomike and Criptoe are with you on AUR team? This tells me they agree with you and will side with you whatever you say. It is just human nature as you have close relationship.

2. The community can serve the majority of the community. I do agree the switch over to new forum without consultation wasn't very smart and premature. Have they done this again since? They also human and will make mistakes and that was a mistake sure but to keep on and on about the same shit is getting old.
Stop complaining and build a new forum.

I've kept my mouth shut for a very long time, but I'm starting to get sick of this shit with dragging my team(Criptoe) through the mud in this fucking childish, dick-measuring display of power.  Leave us out of your little community shouting match.  We are no sock puppets to anyone.  We don't follow whatever LTEX says, as evident by the fact that my entire team, with the exception of LTEX, sold out of NLG and walked away.  I've told LTEX over and over again to just sit on his coins and walk away, or sell out and have fewer grey hairs this year.  We walked away because we didn't want to be a part of this circus anymore, he chose to stay.  That should tell you something.

And what, because we said we'd help out when we could with AUR, we're mindless zombies blindly following LTEX?  We were asked by the foundation members if we wanted to help out.  We gladly accepted, as it was a breathe of fresh air after trying to work with people here.  Some of the team already had holdings in AUR.  It was a coin we were already interested in because of it's early distribution model.  We didn't go because LTEX said "do it".

So frankly, fuck off if you can't get your facts straight.  You, that guy berry, and anyone else that wants to drag us into this community fight after us walking away like 8 months ago.  I'm tired of people dragging my team through the mud because they can't find anything else to back up their arguments.

We walked away.  Let us be for fucks sake.

-Fuse

I like this guy! He has right attitude but forced to sell coin for cocaine habit.  Sad
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October 23, 2015, 10:20:57 AM

LTEX I know Biomike and criptoe are your sock puppets and the team will have there sock puppets supporting them. You do the thinking for biomike and criptoe and team does thinking for it's supporters. Not everyone can have their needs met.


I truly don't know where you always get the impression I'm controlling anything or have sock puppets working for me. FYI, I'm the only one here that is member of Criptoe, no other active member here as far as I know. And BioMike is a big boy, that can perfectly speak for himself. As far as I'm concerned I'm one of the community members of Gulden, just as you are. I might be a bit more concerned with things than others, but that doesn't mean I'm trying to dictate things.

Quote
I have an idea for the team, shutdown the official forum and let a person in the community build one. 99% of the other coins have forums setup by community then it doesn't become your issue and everyone is content. Like others have said it's a waste of time for the team to be focussing on something as trivial as a forum.

Now this is something I fully agree on. This is also the reason why this discussion keeps coming back again and again. Why? Because it's not us, the community members who get to decide what forum is going to be used, that is being dictated by the ones in control of the media, being the Dev's. They refuse to cooperate in building a community forum the community (by large majority) asks for. They singlesidedly changed "our" forum overnight into something very technical, without any consultation whatsoever. A vast majority complained about that and kept asking to go back to the old one. Up to this moment, Rijk refuses to even discuss that.

So explain to me how the dev team is here only to serve the majority of the community, while they even refuse to let that community use their main means of existence the way they ask for?

1. Biomike and Criptoe are with you on AUR team? This tells me they agree with you and will side with you whatever you say. It is just human nature as you have close relationship.

2. The community can serve the majority of the community. I do agree the switch over to new forum without consultation wasn't very smart and premature. Have they done this again since? They also human and will make mistakes and that was a mistake sure but to keep on and on about the same shit is getting old.
Stop complaining and build a new forum.

I've kept my mouth shut for a very long time, but I'm starting to get sick of this shit with dragging my team(Criptoe) through the mud in this fucking childish, dick-measuring display of power.  Leave us out of your little community shouting match.  We are no sock puppets to anyone.  We don't follow whatever LTEX says, as evident by the fact that my entire team, with the exception of LTEX, sold out of NLG and walked away.  I've told LTEX over and over again to just sit on his coins and walk away, or sell out and have fewer grey hairs this year.  We walked away because we didn't want to be a part of this circus anymore, he chose to stay.  That should tell you something.

And what, because we said we'd help out when we could with AUR, we're mindless zombies blindly following LTEX?  We were asked by the foundation members if we wanted to help out.  We gladly accepted, as it was a breathe of fresh air after trying to work with people here.  Some of the team already had holdings in AUR.  It was a coin we were already interested in because of it's early distribution model.  We didn't go because LTEX said "do it".

So frankly, fuck off if you can't get your facts straight.  You, that guy berry, and anyone else that wants to drag us into this community fight after us walking away like 8 months ago.  I'm tired of people dragging my team through the mud because they can't find anything else to back up their arguments.

We walked away.  Let us be for fucks sake.

-Fuse
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October 23, 2015, 09:07:46 AM
Meaning always say yes and amen? Everything is all good?
T
Dev team have failed this community. Dump out before it too late this might be last chance coin above 600. Don't wait it going to 400!! You must dump Sven46 and move to NXT.

How come You don't become tired of yourself? If this is not the coin for you, you should go to the next one. Noone really cares what you say. All your predictions so far have been full of shit.

I actually like him, he makes me laugh ;-)

That be true... He reminds me of that same would be anarchist Rick...  Grin

legendary
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October 23, 2015, 09:01:32 AM
From a personal PoV I did reach out to Devries to discuss alternatives but unfortunately I was away last week and when I returned gulden.zone was taken offline and I can't contact him on bitcointalk because his account is disabled. My hands are tied unless he contacts me. Everything that is done is to put Gulden first before any single person, no person is greater then Gulden and that includes Rijk. This is why we want the community to empower themselves and take the initiative on projects they feel will help the currency. It is a currency and you have the freedom to do what you want with it.
legendary
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ltex.nl
October 23, 2015, 08:48:02 AM
Meaning always say yes and amen? Everything is all good?
T
Dev team have failed this community. Dump out before it too late this might be last chance coin above 600. Don't wait it going to 400!! You must dump Sven46 and move to NXT.

How come You don't become tired of yourself? If this is not the coin for you, you should go to the next one. Noone really cares what you say. All your predictions so far have been full of shit.

I actually like him, he makes me laugh ;-)
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October 23, 2015, 08:41:23 AM
Meaning always say yes and amen? Everything is all good?
T
Dev team have failed this community. Dump out before it too late this might be last chance coin above 600. Don't wait it going to 400!! You must dump Sven46 and move to NXT.

How come You don't become tired of yourself? If this is not the coin for you, you should go to the next one. Noone really cares what you say. All your predictions so far have been full of shit.
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October 23, 2015, 08:28:13 AM
Meaning always say yes and amen? Everything is all good?
T
Dev team have failed this community. Dump out before it too late this might be last chance coin above 600. Don't wait it going to 400!! You must dump Sven46 and move to NXT.
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October 23, 2015, 08:25:19 AM
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October 23, 2015, 08:24:16 AM
Meaning always say yes and amen? Everything is all good?
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October 23, 2015, 08:15:07 AM

Oh FFS. It's their coin. If you start a coin you can do whatever the fuck you like with it. I don't go down to my bank and start chucking chairs about if I don't like the way they do things. I MOVE TO ANOTHER BANK.

I've been in this coin from the beginning and there's only one thing that has made me question my position and that is the actions of you and your 'supporters' during the recent 1680 sell wall debacle. I wonder how many potential investors swerved it when they saw you throwing your toys out of the pram.

All of this because the dev team won't listen to you. Awww diddums. I bet you were one of those kids that got a prize everytime you played weren't you.


I'm getting a bit tired of this mate.

I might just do that and leave you kids to it. I will keep my 13mm NLG though and start behaving like a true community member here. That means I'm going to stop raising legitimate questions, I'm going to stop trying to actively participate in any community efforts, I'm going to stop investing in ideas of myself and others. I'm just going to sit on my cash and expect the dev team to make it work for me. I will jump up and applaud to everything the dev team does and call hail Rijk while clapping all the time.

Yeah, I get it now, I'm going to finally become a true good community member!

AMEN brother! Join in constructive conversation instead of divide and conquer.
legendary
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ltex.nl
October 23, 2015, 07:20:30 AM

Oh FFS. It's their coin. If you start a coin you can do whatever the fuck you like with it. I don't go down to my bank and start chucking chairs about if I don't like the way they do things. I MOVE TO ANOTHER BANK.

I've been in this coin from the beginning and there's only one thing that has made me question my position and that is the actions of you and your 'supporters' during the recent 1680 sell wall debacle. I wonder how many potential investors swerved it when they saw you throwing your toys out of the pram.

All of this because the dev team won't listen to you. Awww diddums. I bet you were one of those kids that got a prize everytime you played weren't you.


I'm getting a bit tired of this mate.

I might just do that and leave you kids to it. I will keep my 13mm NLG though and start behaving like a true community member here. That means I'm going to stop raising legitimate questions, I'm going to stop trying to actively participate in any community efforts, I'm going to stop investing in ideas of myself and others. I'm just going to sit on my cash and expect the dev team to make it work for me. I will jump up and applaud to everything the dev team does and call hail Rijk while clapping all the time.

Yeah, I get it now, I'm going to finally become a true good community member!
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October 23, 2015, 07:03:49 AM
When I make a mistake I usually say sorry and try to correct whatever I have done wrong. In this case the respons was slightly different (STFU and accept our way bitches) resulting in this ongoing discussion. DeVries didn't close his .zone forum because he wants to let down this community, he did so because he realized he could never do any good with it because he got backstabbed by Rijk time and time again. I want to build (or a facilitate it it least) a new forum, but not if it gets ignored and bypassed by the devteam the same way the .zone forum has.

Anyone can setup a forum around Gulden, should they wish so.

Yet it cannot be expected from the devteam, to have them involved in every fora regarding Gulden with "official" questions.
Those kinda questions, which would require a devteam involvement or direct answer, could be asked here, or on the official forum. Should those kind of questions be asked NOT here or NOT on the official forum, those questions should be re-directed towards; it is kinda illogical, to expect other way around...  Wink

Very true, however I would like to say that when community members pointed out questions on zone to me (or asked for assistance answering questions on zone) I did in fact help where possible, but yes I certainly can't spend all my time being active on every single different outlet, and as the community grows there will be more and more channels, slack, reddit, facebook, google+, more forums, it certainly isn't reasonable to expect the devs to actively pour energy into every single forum that pops up.

These allegations that the dev team had some sort of a problem with zone or sabotaged it or whatever else certain people are trying to make it sound like are completely unfounded and have no basis in reality.
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ltex.nl
October 23, 2015, 07:00:52 AM
@MaNi. Please understand it was not me who started this discussion again. Like many times before others keep raising those questions and somehow start to attack people like me over it again and again. The only reason I responded is because this discussion turned into accusing me and others of manipulation. I did not ask for this discussion, but I won't ignore one if it's needed either...
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