Nakamoto speaks on BitcoinXT - page 2.

slaveforanunnak1

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Quote from: Dissonance on August 18, 2015, 08:26:44 PM

its fake dude if satoshi is still alive and make a return he wouldn't do it this way. Also he would be smart to know that nobody is going to believe him without a signed key.

No one has his public key... he has never signed anything!!! unless you know this guy, you will never ever get a provable signed msg from mr nakamoto

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Quote from: Dissonance on August 18, 2015, 08:26:44 PM

its fake dude if satoshi is still alive and make a return he wouldn't do it this way. Also he would be smart to know that nobody is going to believe him without a signed key.

I think it's great everyone knows what satoshi would and wouldn't do. lol

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Quote from: iGotSpots on August 18, 2015, 10:34:59 PM

Unsigned = Fake

he has never signed anything. How are you going to verify a signed msg? LOL you cray cray

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Satoshi won't speak on the future of Bitcoin as there are a seelct few people in place to manage everything. Unfortunately, quite a few of those same people decided to start a pissing contest about whose "block size is larger", which is hurting the community.

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Minimum Effort/Maximum effect

Lol! meant well, but definitely fake. The market will decide, you could almost say that this is a IQ test for the community. Will people take things off hand... or will they do it the Blockchain way? Linking knowledge to it's source, regardless of it's PGP signature.

Satoshi anticipated the advent of pools, there is little that person did not anticipate. I even read he made Quotes within the source code around any type of weakness that could be thought of, this was from an article where Dan Kaminsky tried to hack bitcoin, but failed... the worse part? Satoshi's comments heckled anyone trying to poke holes in the software. The source code was so confusingly programmed(very likely on purpose) that even the core programmers had a hard time figuring it out; That's what caused the fork we saw years ago going from .7 to .8... any attempt to alter something at the core was like it was programmed in Binary, linking things together beyond assembly language... my take? I think Satoshi could program in Assembly Language; Machine Code.

I've read enough about bitcoin and checked it thoroughly... It has delighted me for years to learn the intricacies of Bitcoin,

Satoshi will taunt us from their grave, they left nothing to chance. It inspires me every day to try harder to learn more.

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No one can tell if he is Nakamoto or not. Only Satoshi himself. So we all can make only hypothesis. The thoughts of the author are goods even i personally don't think that they are the thoughts of Nakamoto. The only thing to hope is that both the groups sit around a table and resolve in the civilized way the discordances between those.

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Seems legit.

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Quote from: egyproductions on August 18, 2015, 08:04:46 PM

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

has anyone seen this?

This is VERY strange, as I have been transmitted the VERY SAME message telepathically from Satoshi MANY TIMES!

Do you think it is a coincidence?

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Unsigned = Fake

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As many time said already, that mail is FAKE. But it contains some valuable points which Bitcoin community agrees.

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Anyone can claim anything, you need to back up with proof of the person being the actual Satoshi

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i think it's fake

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As I know, this have been discussed here for several times (link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/thoughts-regarding-satoshis-post-today-on-the-mailing-list-1153708). Please lock this thread and keep the discussion on that thread.
BTW I think that mustn't be satoshi. He should sign a message from: 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.

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Quote from: hdbuck on August 18, 2015, 08:28:33 PM

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further read: http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/

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As to the MP was rightii part, see for instance

09-09-2014 11:56:30 this has been long said here, the #1 problem with the bitcoin protocol is that it has no specific payment for relays, and it allows separation of mining and relay.

And yes, if you're going to play the "first" game, please, bring forth the documentation. (Should you fail to find anything worthy of mention on the line above, you can always try and find an alternative source for that now-widespread technical criticism, which wasn't nearly all that widespread back in December, back when the shitstains were claiming "consensus" and the support of "economists". Good luck.)

Shit, I've been hollering about this since I found at that transfer nodes were NOT rewarded which must have occurred back in 2011. Somehow I mis-understood this aspect of the whitepaper and/or some other source I was reading when I was trying to figure out Bitcoin in the first place.

Like I've said before, I probably would not have even bothered with Bitcoin had I realized that transfer nodes were not, or were not anticipated to be, rewarded. The security model of the system doesn't make a lot of sense to me without this. Since I took some profits before Hearn got serious about collapsing Bitcoin, I'm glad I made this mistake.

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BTC > etc

Hmm, must have misread it somewhere else.
I stand corrected

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[quot e author=Dissonance link=topic=1156465.msg12179347#msg12179347 date=1439947604]
its fake dude if satoshi is still alive and make a return he wouldn't do it this way. Also he would be smart to know that nobody is going to believe him without a signed key.
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+1 i agree with you

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from http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/

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Peter Todd says:
August 16, 2015 at 4:50 pm

FWIW, the email account used to send the recent Satoshi email to the mailing list *is* the same one he used to announce Bitcoin – the gmx account that is known to be hacked was one he used later on. Also, it appears the email was from Vistomail, and Vistomail itself has been continuously operating since Satoshi used it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h4fth/purportedly_satoshi_posts_to_bitcoindev_mailing/cu48vy5?context=3

Basically either that email account was hacked, or it's really Satoshi. Obviously there's a high probability of the former, but lets keep the facts straight to reduce confusion.

further read: http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/

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Quote from: TibanneCat on August 18, 2015, 08:16:22 PM

satoshi@vistomail is a fake address

It is actually not since he used that email address for the very first announcements on the Bitcoin mailing list.

It is likely to be a fake email and someone simply was able to get into that email address. Without a signed message with either PGP or known Satoshi addresses, this will considered to be fake. If it is Satoshi, he should see that people want a signed message and will provide it to prove his identity.

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its fake dude if satoshi is still alive and make a return he wouldn't do it this way. Also he would be smart to know that nobody is going to believe him without a signed key.

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This:

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Satoshi Nakamoto satoshi at vistomail.com 
Sat Aug 15 17:43:54 UTC 2015
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I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing list.  I had hoped the debate would resolve and that
a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus.  However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely
to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dangerous fork.

The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth.
When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near
unanimous agreement.  Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is
Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto.  Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it
without being forced or pressured into it.  By doing a fork in this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they
claim to honour.

They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to be.  However I acknowledge that a lot has
changed since that time, and new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.  For example I
didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network.  Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system
while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust
solution.  I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism.

If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and
through the use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin a failed project.  Bitcoin was meant to be
both technically and socially robust.  This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.

Satoshi Nakamoto

I've no idea if it is him or not. That is about what I would write if I had developed Bitcoin to the point that Satoshi did and then left the project as he did. If it actually is the guy, I'll feel good about being on the same wavelength.

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