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That's exactly the point where I am. I have a Nano S. And I'm thinking I will buy a Nano X to use with all daily movements...
Now I know I'm not crazy Tongue

I'll keep an eye for a nice discount.

Quote from: crwth on September 05, 2019, 02:04:55 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2019, 12:28:19 PM

Nice. That would be more than enough for me, and I probably should have bought a Nano X instead of the Nano S. It was my first hardware wallet and I didn't do enough research before making the purchase, just like when I bought the useless Keepkey. Oh well. They aren't that expensive, but I just don't own enough crypto to justify it.

It is really nice, to be honest, I don't really use most of them. Of course, BTC is the most used amongst all the apps that I downloaded unto my Nano X.

For your experience having bought the Nano S, it's also the same with me. I have used Nano S at first then when someone approached me that he will buy a Nano S, I offered to buy with him a bundle of Nano S and Nano X [1], Nano X went to me and I never regretted it. Having two hardware wallets would be too much because I'm not sure what to do with my Nano S now. I'm just using it as somewhat of a "Colder Wallet" if that makes any more sense Lol. I transfer coins that I know that I wouldn't use and just let it stay in it. Nano X is my go-to Hardware wallet, all the time.

[1] - https://shop.ledger.com/products/ledger-backup-pack

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Quote from: bob123 on September 08, 2019, 09:46:30 AM

Quote from: HCP on September 06, 2019, 05:20:12 PM

The issue is only with coins that don't have native support in Ledger Live... and tbh, if it isn't natively supported, chances are it's most likely worthless anyway Tongue

That's a weird way to distinguish between worthy and worthless coins.

It was a tongue-in-cheek, throwaway line... hence the accompanying emote Wink

Apparently, my attempt at humour fell a bit short.

The main point still stands tho... You don't even need the device attached (let alone the coin apps installed) to be able to view all the supported coins that you've added into your Ledger Live portfolio.

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Quote from: bob123 on September 06, 2019, 04:02:33 AM

That's quite handy, but not necessary IMO.

I do think that it's definitely a want, not a necessity. If you would want convenience without having to pull out a cable and put into your phone or PC, it's going to save you some time, but if you don't need it, better invest it in something else.

Quote from: bob123 on September 06, 2019, 04:02:33 AM

You have to go through each word and select each letter using the 'left' and 'right' button, then choosing it by clicking with both buttons.
This can take quite some time until you have entered your 24 words.

I can imagine the hardship that you might have to go through with having that many words and manually doing it. I'm planning to do it to my Nano S and I think it would gruesome to go through.

Quote from: Lucius on September 06, 2019, 04:54:49 AM

You shouldn't be confused with my post since you post link to back pack bundle in your post :

I honestly got confused with that. Maybe I was occupied with something else in my mind back then. So that is what you are referring to and I got confused with just a few words.

Quote from: Lucius on September 06, 2019, 04:54:49 AM

Regarding some discount form Ledger, why not save some money if they offers something like this every year. But maybe we can save even some BTC if price is go up in next months, it is not same if you pay 0.015 or 0.01 for same device.

I do believe that saving that much would be helpful for the future, or not just save, invest in another thing. The best investment, in my opinion, is knowledge/education.

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Quote from: bob123 on September 08, 2019, 09:46:30 AM

I wouldn't regard Monero as worthless. It is the only coin which offers a decent anonymity. It is not natively supported by ledger live.

Additionally, there are very few wallet which support Monero, because Monero is very different (on technical level) than other cryptocurrency.

I do think that Monero is a secure cryptocurrency and protecting you with its privacy, having that stealth addresses, etc. I don't think people who do not have a technical background with regards to computer terms or cryptocurrency terms, and they would have a hard time understanding Monero.

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Quote from: HCP on September 06, 2019, 05:20:12 PM

The issue is only with coins that don't have native support in Ledger Live... and tbh, if it isn't natively supported, chances are it's most likely worthless anyway Tongue

That's a weird way to distinguish between worthy and worthless coins.

I wouldn't regard Monero as worthless. It is the only coin which offers a decent anonymity. It is not natively supported by ledger live.
On the other hand, Pivx and Dash claim to be private (which is plain wrong), their transactions an easily be deanonymized. They are natively supported by ledger live.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2019, 12:28:19 PM

Personally, I don't own that many altcoins but it would be nice to be able to view more than four at once. If the Ledger X has that capability (I don't own one), it's an improvement.

There is nothing stopping you from viewing all your coins with a Nano S (hell they even added ERC-20 token support Roll Eyes

)... If the coin is supported in Ledger Live, you do NOT need to have the coin app installed on the device to be able to view them. Once it is added to your portfolio, it'll show up just fine.

The issue is only with coins that don't have native support in Ledger Live... and tbh, if it isn't natively supported, chances are it's most likely worthless anyway Tongue

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Quote from: bob123 on September 06, 2019, 04:02:33 AM

It is horrible.

It's the same when using a passphrase. When using a passphrase of sufficient length and random characters (which everyone should be doing) it becomes quite time consuming and a real pain to enter it when needed. There are only two other options though: Enter it on your computer like you do with Trezor, which can expose you to key logging malware, or create a hardware wallet with a full keyboard, which would be both bulky and more expensive.

It's not great in terms of usability, but at least it's secure.

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Quote from: crwth on September 06, 2019, 03:11:33 AM

Quote from: Lucius on September 05, 2019, 06:45:42 AM

It is idea that Ledger is promoting for some time, and I do not see anything wrong in that, except for the fact that for some people is too expensive to buy one hardware wallet, two is just to much.

What promotion are you talking about? I'm quite confused about what you're saying. Did ledger promote having two wallets?

You shouldn't be confused with my post since you post link to back pack bundle in your post :

Quote from: crwth on September 05, 2019, 02:04:55 AM

[1] - https://shop.ledger.com/products/ledger-backup-pack

and they say about it :

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This pack contains a Ledger Nano X and a Ledger Nano S to always keep your assets available and out of harm’s way.
Securely manage your assets on-the-go from your smartphone with the Ledger Nano X, and keep the Ledger Nano S for at-home use or in a safe storage as a backup device.

Regarding some discount form Ledger, why not save some money if they offers something like this every year. But maybe we can save even some BTC if price is go up in next months, it is not same if you pay 0.015 or 0.01 for same device.

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Quote from: bob123 on September 06, 2019, 04:02:33 AM

It is horrible.
You have to go through each word and select each letter using the 'left' and 'right' button, then choosing it by clicking with both buttons.
This can take quite some time until you have entered your 24 words.

It really is. I had to go through it about a month ago when an update suddenly wiped my Nano S clean. It takes 5-10 minutes to get it back up and running again. My main concern was that I didn't know why the device wiped itself clean since I never experienced it before. It had me worried until I restored my account.

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Quote from: crwth on September 06, 2019, 03:11:33 AM

What promotion are you talking about? I'm quite confused about what you're saying. Did ledger promote having two wallets?

When they introduced the nano x, there was an offer to buy 2 wallets at a discount (nano x + nano s).
They promoted is as the 'backup pack', to always have a backup in case your first device gets lost or breaks.

That's quite handy, but not necessary IMO.

Quote from: crwth on September 06, 2019, 03:11:33 AM

I haven't tried recovering my seed in Ledger, and I'm just curious with how you are going to input the seed. Too lazy to search unless I need to.

It is horrible.
You have to go through each word and select each letter using the 'left' and 'right' button, then choosing it by clicking with both buttons.
This can take quite some time until you have entered your 24 words.
You don't need to enter the complete word, it will suggest you words which are in the wordlist and match with what you have entered, but it still an annoying process.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 05, 2019, 06:45:42 AM

It is idea that Ledger is promoting for some time, and I do not see anything wrong in that, except for the fact that for some people is too expensive to buy one hardware wallet, two is just to much.

What promotion are you talking about? I'm quite confused about what you're saying. Did ledger promote having two wallets?

Quote from: Lucius on September 05, 2019, 06:45:42 AM

But in case one wallet is broken or stolen, it is good to have one spare because only proper way for recovery is to type seed directly in hardware wallet.

This is helpful for sure. It's like it never left you or have been stolen for you. I have thought of something that if you restore your seed in an air-gapped laptop, it's like the same thing, but you have a desktop. I haven't tried recovering my seed in Ledger, and I'm just curious with how you are going to input the seed. Too lazy to search unless I need to.

Quote from: Lucius on September 05, 2019, 06:45:42 AM

As a user of Nano S for some time, I would also get one Nano X in months that come. Ledger will probably have some discount for Black Friday or later for holidays. Investing in security is never expensive, and that money is well invested.

I think you would love the experience of having Nano X. Every time you would be going out or something and suddenly need BTC, it's going to be helpful because you could transact using your phone with just Bluetooth. Convenient for me and not bringing an extra cable (OTG)

I haven't thought of that, waiting for the Black Friday sale would be advantageous. I agree with investing in security, and it leaves your mind at peace.

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Quote from: crwth on September 05, 2019, 02:04:55 AM

Having two hardware wallets would be too much because I'm not sure what to do with my Nano S now. I'm just using it as somewhat of a "Colder Wallet" if that makes any more sense Lol. I transfer coins that I know that I wouldn't use and just let it stay in it. Nano X is my go-to Hardware wallet, all the time.

It is idea that Ledger is promoting for some time, and I do not see anything wrong in that, except for the fact that for some people is too expensive to buy one hardware wallet, two is just to much. But in case one wallet is broken or stolen, it is good to have one spare because only proper way for recovery is to type seed directly in hardware wallet.

As a user of Nano S for some time, I would also get one Nano X in months that come. Ledger will probably have some discount for Black Friday or later for holidays. Investing in security is never expensive, and that money is well invested.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2019, 12:28:19 PM

Nice. That would be more than enough for me, and I probably should have bought a Nano X instead of the Nano S. It was my first hardware wallet and I didn't do enough research before making the purchase, just like when I bought the useless Keepkey. Oh well. They aren't that expensive, but I just don't own enough crypto to justify it.

It is really nice, to be honest, I don't really use most of them. Of course, BTC is the most used amongst all the apps that I downloaded unto my Nano X.

For your experience having bought the Nano S, it's also the same with me. I have used Nano S at first then when someone approached me that he will buy a Nano S, I offered to buy with him a bundle of Nano S and Nano X [1], Nano X went to me and I never regretted it. Having two hardware wallets would be too much because I'm not sure what to do with my Nano S now. I'm just using it as somewhat of a "Colder Wallet" if that makes any more sense Lol. I transfer coins that I know that I wouldn't use and just let it stay in it. Nano X is my go-to Hardware wallet, all the time.

[1] - https://shop.ledger.com/products/ledger-backup-pack

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 21, 2019, 05:04:36 AM

Honestly, do you really have 50-100 different coins worth keeping on your Ledger? I don't know anyone that does.

I'm sure there are a lot of people who own multiple altcoins and would like to be able to view their portfolios in full, using a hardware device. I have to agree with OP's frustration here, though I'm not casting aspersions on the Ledger S--it is what it is. Personally, I don't own that many altcoins but it would be nice to be able to view more than four at once. If the Ledger X has that capability (I don't own one), it's an improvement.

Quote from: crwth on August 22, 2019, 10:20:12 PM

I have arrived up to 10 apps, still no difficulty.

Nice. That would be more than enough for me, and I probably should have bought a Nano X instead of the Nano S. It was my first hardware wallet and I didn't do enough research before making the purchase, just like when I bought the useless Keepkey. Oh well. They aren't that expensive, but I just don't own enough crypto to justify it.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 28, 2019, 07:04:32 AM

It's better to purchase the USB from ledger only as it's durable and plus safe to use.

Any USB cable is fine. There is literally no point paying 15 bucks for a cable. A $2 will do the exact same job.

Not literally any cable.
It needs to have the data pins too, not only the power pins Tongue

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Quote from: erikalui on August 28, 2019, 07:04:32 AM

Ledger live isn't fully developed for Nano S users and they can only view the balance (not transact).

Not accurate. Ledger Live Android version is fully functioning with Nano S devices, including sending transactions. It is only iPhones that are restricted to view only.
https://www.ledger.com/ledger-nano-s-ledger-live-mobile-compatibility-now-available-for-android-users/

And there are other additional wallets (on android) which support the ledger nano, e.g. Mycelium (fully functional, not viewing only).

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I wouldn't worry about it if you meant vulnerability such as Side-channel on Nano S/X display.
Such attack only happens on movie (where you're very rich/important person).

I'm looking forward to the next season of Mr. Robot, wouldn't be surprised to see it there. Cheesy

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Quote from: erikalui on August 28, 2019, 07:04:32 AM

It's better to purchase the USB from ledger only as it's durable and plus safe to use.

Any USB cable is fine. There is literally no point paying 15 bucks for a cable. A $2 will do the exact same job.

Quote from: erikalui on August 28, 2019, 07:04:32 AM

Ledger live isn't fully developed for Nano S users and they can only view the balance (not transact).

Not accurate. Ledger Live Android version is fully functioning with Nano S devices, including sending transactions. It is only iPhones that are restricted to view only.
https://www.ledger.com/ledger-nano-s-ledger-live-mobile-compatibility-now-available-for-android-users/

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It's better to purchase the USB from ledger only as it's durable and plus safe to use. Also, I don't see it feasible to connecting nano S with a smartphone as ledger live isn't fully developed for Nano S users and they can only view the balance (not transact).

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 28, 2019, 04:46:25 AM

Yes you can but like o_e_l_e_o mentioned, you need one of these:

Any micro USB to appropriate-USB-for-your-phone cable will work. Ledger sell a USB cable set here which contains all 3 options, micro USB to USB C, USB A, or micro USB: https://shop.ledger.com/products/ledger-otg-kit. It's quite overpriced for what it is though. You'll be able to get the relevant cable for a buck or two on Amazon or your local computer shop.

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Quote from: jerry0 on August 27, 2019, 03:27:06 PM

Curious but you can't use a nano s with a smartphone right?

Yes you can but like o_e_l_e_o mentioned, you need one of these:

Since your smartphone doesn't have a USB connection you can't connect your Nano S cable directly to your phone. That is where the OTB cable comes into play.

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Quote from: jerry0 on August 27, 2019, 03:27:06 PM

Curious but you can't use a nano s with a smartphone right?

The Ledger Nano S is compatible with Android phones via an OTG cable (i.e. a standard USB cable with the appropriate connections for your phone and the Nano S). Ledger Nano X is compatible with Android phones and iPhones via Bluetooth.

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