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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 13, 2022, 07:57:36 AM

If NBA would love that, does it mean they will rig the game to ensure that the series will reach game 7? If this is business, then most likely we will see that and I think Warriors winning game 5 is a must because Celtics will bounce back in game 6.

I think he's speaking in general for the feelings of everyone. We know that games like this can't be rigged because what's at stake is the reputation of the league itself.
It's more than a business because there's also the reputation of the champion that shall be recognized worldwide. You are just thinking that much about the rigging but every finals isn't like that.

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If Klay and Green can bounce back and have a better game then the Celtics are in trouble. Steph is after that MVP trophy… Wiggins was able to make a huge impact in the game without shooting well either. Once a couple of these guys start shouting above 50% in a game, the Celtics will be in trouble. I haven’t seen Tatum carry the Celtics yet like I thought he would. Watching the games it feels like Jaylen Brown is their star.

I don't know but Draymond is the guy from the Warriors who seems lost. That's actually the biggest what if for the Warriors in this Finals. If Draymond played like he used to back when they battled against LeBron, I'm thinking the series could be 3-1 in their favour.
He's like distracted by his podcasts lol.

The game 5 might decide who's going to win the Finals this year.

I think Draymond will play better at home, and we will see his improvement in game 5 because he is a clutch player, he will use his experience to help his team, especially on the defensive side. Draymond is just busy defending Brown, LOL..maybe coach Kerr have some plans for him in game 5.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 13, 2022, 03:50:03 AM

If Klay and Green can bounce back and have a better game then the Celtics are in trouble. Steph is after that MVP trophy… Wiggins was able to make a huge impact in the game without shooting well either. Once a couple of these guys start shouting above 50% in a game, the Celtics will be in trouble. I haven’t seen Tatum carry the Celtics yet like I thought he would. Watching the games it feels like Jaylen Brown is their star.

I don't know but Draymond is the guy from the Warriors who seems lost. That's actually the biggest what if for the Warriors in this Finals. If Draymond played like he used to back when they battled against LeBron, I'm thinking the series could be 3-1 in their favour.
He's like distracted by his podcasts lol.

The game 5 might decide who's going to win the Finals this year.

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Quote from: vennali on June 13, 2022, 07:54:04 AM

Warriors have put in great defensive efforts coming into the playoffs and have been very dynamic coming into it. It have puzzled many an oppositions on how to make offensive plays for a defense that is consistently changing. They are most likely to win the series from the looks of it. Celtics need someone to take charge into the offense and the bench needs to pull their own weight. Hopefully we get to see another game 7 in the series. I'm sure the NBA in general would love for that to happen. Wink

If NBA would love that, does it mean they will rig the game to ensure that the series will reach game 7? If this is business, then most likely we will see that and I think Warriors winning game 5 is a must because Celtics will bounce back in game 6.

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Warriors have put in great defensive efforts coming into the playoffs and have been very dynamic coming into it. It have puzzled many an oppositions on how to make offensive plays for a defense that is consistently changing. They are most likely to win the series from the looks of it. Celtics need someone to take charge into the offense and the bench needs to pull their own weight. Hopefully we get to see another game 7 in the series. I'm sure the NBA in general would love for that to happen. Wink

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It's been a few seasons since we've had a balanced NBA Finals this way. I confess that we couldn't predict (at least) who will actually be the champion of this season!
If the Warriors don't play seriously there is a small chance they will lose to the Celtics (like for example in games 1 and 3), but on the other hand, the Warriors have demonstrated that they are a team strong and can be the champions again, and that he proved in this last game at TD Garden!

Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?

Boston Celtics erased all the doubts that they won't stand a chance against the Golden State Warriors.

Before the start of the NBA Finals, I'm seeing some posts around that how the Celtics can even match the much more powerful Warriors. I think no one even imagined except for the Celtics fans that the series will be tied at 2-2 before Game 5.

However, the most predicted exact score of 4-2 in favor of the Warriors still has a chance to happen especially if they will win on their homecourt arena in Game 5 and then finish the series on the Celtic's homecourt in Game 6. But with how these teams are showing off their respective performance, it now becomes unpredictable who will win in Game 5 as homecourt advantage is not even a big advantage.

Hmm... I don't know, the Warriors are a strong and traditional team, because for a few years they were a team that had a great number of victories in the NBA.

The Celtics are a classic team (despite their young squad), if Boston can defend Curry or Thompson extremely well, that will be a big advantage for the Celtics, I believe Smart is the best option for this, he is not very tall but he is fast but at the same time he is strong and can guard Thompson as well.

For the Celtics win, some NBA star (GSW) will have to get injured or the Celtics players will have to play extremely well!!

Warriors is back on the top now, they've got the homecourt advantage and knowing how great they are playing in front of their

home crowd, Dub-Nation always influenced the way they are playing. If they can play great from the road game they are more

capable doing more inside Chase center. We will see another greatness from Curry or maybe we will see adjustments from Coach Kerr

letting Klay or Poole to be their triggerman while Curry will be the decoy in attracting the defense.

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If Klay and Green can bounce back and have a better game then the Celtics are in trouble. Steph is after that MVP trophy… Wiggins was able to make a huge impact in the game without shooting well either. Once a couple of these guys start shouting above 50% in a game, the Celtics will be in trouble. I haven’t seen Tatum carry the Celtics yet like I thought he would. Watching the games it feels like Jaylen Brown is their star.

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Quote from: gagux123 on June 12, 2022, 11:44:21 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on June 12, 2022, 07:01:21 PM

Quote from: gagux123 on June 12, 2022, 03:08:35 AM

It's been a few seasons since we've had a balanced NBA Finals this way. I confess that we couldn't predict (at least) who will actually be the champion of this season!
If the Warriors don't play seriously there is a small chance they will lose to the Celtics (like for example in games 1 and 3), but on the other hand, the Warriors have demonstrated that they are a team strong and can be the champions again, and that he proved in this last game at TD Garden!

Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?

Boston Celtics erased all the doubts that they won't stand a chance against the Golden State Warriors.

Before the start of the NBA Finals, I'm seeing some posts around that how the Celtics can even match the much more powerful Warriors. I think no one even imagined except for the Celtics fans that the series will be tied at 2-2 before Game 5.

However, the most predicted exact score of 4-2 in favor of the Warriors still has a chance to happen especially if they will win on their homecourt arena in Game 5 and then finish the series on the Celtic's homecourt in Game 6. But with how these teams are showing off their respective performance, it now becomes unpredictable who will win in Game 5 as homecourt advantage is not even a big advantage.

Hmm... I don't know, the Warriors are a strong and traditional team, because for a few years they were a team that had a great number of victories in the NBA.

The Celtics are a classic team (despite their young squad), if Boston can defend Curry or Thompson extremely well, that will be a big advantage for the Celtics, I believe Smart is the best option for this, he is not very tall but he is fast but at the same time he is strong and can guard Thompson as well.

For the Celtics win, some NBA star (GSW) will have to get injured or the Celtics players will have to play extremely well!!

The Celtics did a great job on Thompson but they cannot limit the production of Curry, he was just so unguardable in the last 4 games and had an explosive game in game 4 to even the series. His confidence level now is in a high state, he will be more aggressive in shooting the ball in game 5 because he wants to have the lead in the series.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 12, 2022, 07:01:21 PM

Quote from: gagux123 on June 12, 2022, 03:08:35 AM

It's been a few seasons since we've had a balanced NBA Finals this way. I confess that we couldn't predict (at least) who will actually be the champion of this season!
If the Warriors don't play seriously there is a small chance they will lose to the Celtics (like for example in games 1 and 3), but on the other hand, the Warriors have demonstrated that they are a team strong and can be the champions again, and that he proved in this last game at TD Garden!

Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?

Boston Celtics erased all the doubts that they won't stand a chance against the Golden State Warriors.

Before the start of the NBA Finals, I'm seeing some posts around that how the Celtics can even match the much more powerful Warriors. I think no one even imagined except for the Celtics fans that the series will be tied at 2-2 before Game 5.

However, the most predicted exact score of 4-2 in favor of the Warriors still has a chance to happen especially if they will win on their homecourt arena in Game 5 and then finish the series on the Celtic's homecourt in Game 6. But with how these teams are showing off their respective performance, it now becomes unpredictable who will win in Game 5 as homecourt advantage is not even a big advantage.

Hmm... I don't know, the Warriors are a strong and traditional team, because for a few years they were a team that had a great number of victories in the NBA.

The Celtics are a classic team (despite their young squad), if Boston can defend Curry or Thompson extremely well, that will be a big advantage for the Celtics, I believe Smart is the best option for this, he is not very tall but he is fast but at the same time he is strong and can guard Thompson as well.

For the Celtics win, some NBA star (GSW) will have to get injured or the Celtics players will have to play extremely well!!

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Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.

Take note also that even if the starters don't have a good stat sheet per game, that's not always the basis that they are struggling that night. There's a so-called contribution that is not listed in the stat sheet and it's proven effective. Draymond Green is a good example of a player who is always questioned because he is getting a good playing time but his stat sheet is sometimes clean or having the worst night. They didn't realize that the presence of Draymond Green on the court brings an impact to his teammates and a threat in defense on the opposing team.

Steve Kerr already knows the drill as an experienced coach and is used to dealing with the Finals environment several times already. I'm sure it's not that he doesn't want the bench players to be involved but there will be the right timing to put these guys depending on the situation.

Yeah draymond is key to this team and you are right not on the stat sheet. Watch the Warriors when green is out for an extended period of time, their defense is sub par. He changes the way other teams can attack the basket against them. Stats aren't the only thing especially in basketball.

I agree with this yet boosting up morale on other team members is something that relevant whenever we do see a player which is indeed strong or relevant for such position specially
Green for tough defense and other related function towards this key area. Numbers wouldnt be always the basis but rather the contribution.I might be that contradicting earlier
about bench players and looking down on them but its true that there's always a right time on where these guys should be inserted in but i do still doubt that it would
happen on a finals game which is really very that important.

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Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.

Take note also that even if the starters don't have a good stat sheet per game, that's not always the basis that they are struggling that night. There's a so-called contribution that is not listed in the stat sheet and it's proven effective. Draymond Green is a good example of a player who is always questioned because he is getting a good playing time but his stat sheet is sometimes clean or having the worst night. They didn't realize that the presence of Draymond Green on the court brings an impact to his teammates and a threat in defense on the opposing team.

Steve Kerr already knows the drill as an experienced coach and is used to dealing with the Finals environment several times already. I'm sure it's not that he doesn't want the bench players to be involved but there will be the right timing to put these guys depending on the situation.

Yeah draymond is key to this team and you are right not on the stat sheet. Watch the Warriors when green is out for an extended period of time, their defense is sub par. He changes the way other teams can attack the basket against them. Stats aren't the only thing especially in basketball.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on June 12, 2022, 03:58:01 PM

Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.

Take note also that even if the starters don't have a good stat sheet per game, that's not always the basis that they are struggling that night. There's a so-called contribution that is not listed in the stat sheet and it's proven effective. Draymond Green is a good example of a player who is always questioned because he is getting a good playing time but his stat sheet is sometimes clean or having the worst night. They didn't realize that the presence of Draymond Green on the court brings an impact to his teammates and a threat in defense on the opposing team.

Steve Kerr already knows the drill as an experienced coach and is used to dealing with the Finals environment several times already. I'm sure it's not that he doesn't want the bench players to be involved but there will be the right timing to put these guys depending on the situation.

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Quote from: lulumiya on June 12, 2022, 06:54:29 PM

The Game 4 was fabulous for especially Steph Curry. His 43-point effort had a big contribution in this 107-97 victory. Warriors can be really unstoppable when they capture the momentum. They rely on Curry in these times and Celtics have a bigger responsibility about hindering him as much as possible in these times. Otherwise this happens and they have nothing to do about it. Everything was decided in the 4th quarter. Anyway I think Celtics will have a big response to this next time.

We haven't seen a momentum shift though, but game 5 might be the one that will put the Warriors on top of the series and gain the momentum they needed in order to win the NBA finals. It's really hard to stop a shooter like Curry, and I don't think that anyone in the Celtics team can defend him well. And as we all know the Warriors is an experienced team and so they know the importance of winning game 4 at the road. Now it's time for them to go back to their home court and one another game.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 12, 2022, 11:23:45 AM

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I don't think so, the starters of the Warriors played more minutes compared to the Boston Celtics starters, so they spend more energy in the game.

Look at the comparison.

Curry 40:41 mins
Wiggins 43:25 mins
Thompson 40:50 mins

For Celtics, only Tatum have played over 40+ minutes.

IMO, Warriors just did a good play in the most important minutes that's why they won the game.

Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke. Cheesy

True, maybe if the complexion of the game changes, he might insert Gary Payton II. But perhaps the first goal is not stay with the Celtics and not to get blown out again. And then Curry had to carry the team and then the experience players like Draymond and Klay was needed. Wiggins though log many minutes because he is doing good specially in rebounds. So it was a total effort for them and obviously a big statement win a crucial stretch of the series.

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Quote from: gagux123 on June 12, 2022, 03:08:35 AM

It's been a few seasons since we've had a balanced NBA Finals this way. I confess that we couldn't predict (at least) who will actually be the champion of this season!
If the Warriors don't play seriously there is a small chance they will lose to the Celtics (like for example in games 1 and 3), but on the other hand, the Warriors have demonstrated that they are a team strong and can be the champions again, and that he proved in this last game at TD Garden!

Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?

Boston Celtics erased all the doubts that they won't stand a chance against the Golden State Warriors.

Before the start of the NBA Finals, I'm seeing some posts around that how the Celtics can even match the much more powerful Warriors. I think no one even imagined except for the Celtics fans that the series will be tied at 2-2 before Game 5.

However, the most predicted exact score of 4-2 in favor of the Warriors still has a chance to happen especially if they will win on their homecourt arena in Game 5 and then finish the series on the Celtic's homecourt in Game 6. But with how these teams are showing off their respective performance, it now becomes unpredictable who will win in Game 5 as homecourt advantage is not even a big advantage.

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The Game 4 was fabulous for especially Steph Curry. His 43-point effort had a big contribution in this 107-97 victory. Warriors can be really unstoppable when they capture the momentum. They rely on Curry in these times and Celtics have a bigger responsibility about hindering him as much as possible in these times. Otherwise this happens and they have nothing to do about it. Everything was decided in the 4th quarter. Anyway I think Celtics will have a big response to this next time.

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Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke. Cheesy

Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up

experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.Im not underestimating them but with the current condition

where championship is at stake then its understandable that he would really be that aggressive as much as he could just for the sake on winning the series.

Its too crucial to have that experiment on the finals game so we can’t expect bench players to have longer time during the final series since both teams are relying on their top players and that’s the only way for them to get the championship. If the coaches pulls out the bench player, then probably he is just letting the top players to have some rest and analyze the whole game, we can’t expect too much from the bench player anyway.

Exactly on what i do said.Its really indeed that too dangerous for them to take risk on letting bench players to play long because its just common sense that it would be relevant if they do put up those star players

on higher duration and as you can see that those 3 players on Warriors do really able to have that 40m+ mark which is only having one in celtics.I dont have any problems about gametime in between starters and
bench because each condition would really be situational which would also needed up appropriate action to win up a championship.There should be no room for errors.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on June 12, 2022, 03:58:01 PM

Quote from: danherbias07 on June 12, 2022, 11:23:45 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 12, 2022, 11:09:10 AM

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Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke. Cheesy

Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up

experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.Im not underestimating them but with the current condition

where championship is at stake then its understandable that he would really be that aggressive as much as he could just for the sake on winning the series.

Its too crucial to have that experiment on the finals game so we can’t expect bench players to have longer time during the final series since both teams are relying on their top players and that’s the only way for them to get the championship. If the coaches pulls out the bench player, then probably he is just letting the top players to have some rest and analyze the whole game, we can’t expect too much from the bench player anyway.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 12, 2022, 11:23:45 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 12, 2022, 11:09:10 AM

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Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke. Cheesy

Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up

experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.Im not underestimating them but with the current condition

where championship is at stake then its understandable that he would really be that aggressive as much as he could just for the sake on winning the series.

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Quote from: Pamadar on June 12, 2022, 03:07:56 PM

Whoever wins the game 5 has that upper hand in this series, not an assurance but extended
shot for the finals, once you win game 5, win or lose in game 6 still gives you another game to re-try to win the title,
unlike if you lose your chance is lesser and knowing the caliber of your opponent it will be another tough competition
to survive and push your way into a do-or-die final.

This is one of the reasons that the last three games require travel. Unlike games 1 through 4, no two games will be consecutively played in the same city, thus mitigating the affect of home-field-advantage. Unfortunately for the Celtics, this has essentially become a three-game series now and two of the games are in San Francisco. The Warriors won't risk going behind in game 5, and since they have the advantage they'll do everything in their power to win that one. These two teams are so evenly matched I expect each to win their remaining home games, which will make the Warriors champions in game 7. It's been several years since the Warriors have one a championship during a home game, it's about time for another.

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