NBA Finals 2022 - Warriors vs Celtics. - page 13.

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 10, 2022, 01:47:09 PM

Just like what I have said, if the Celtics can work on their defense, they can edge out the Warriors and can keep up with the scores. Both teams are known to be weak in terns of defense, but it's impressive that the Celtics were able to up their defense game with little rest on their key players after winning the conference finals.

What on earth are you talking about!?!?! The Boston Celtics and the Golden State Warriors ranked #1 and #2 in team defense rankings this season: https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defense/?sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

On top of that, the Boston Celtics had the defensive player of the year: https://www.nba.com/news/bostons-marcus-smart-wins-2021-22-kia-defensive-player-of-the-year-award

If there were ever a time when the saying, "defense wins championships" was applicable, it would be this series. Don't get fooled by the fact that Golden State can shoot the lights out. They are very much a defensive team. Draymond even made the all-defensive second team this year. Klay is also a great lockdown defender (although still getting his groove back).

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Quote from: Text on June 09, 2022, 05:24:45 PM

Would it be the defense that wins championships?

That Boston's intense hustle plays, I thought the momentum of the Warriors was continuous when they already leads the game.

It started by Brown and finished by Tatum (seems lucky).

Marcus Smart is also in the equation for the defense. GSW had a hard time going through this guy on multiple instances. Just like what I have said, if the Celtics can work on their defense, they can edge out the Warriors and can keep up with the scores. Both teams are known to be weak in terns of defense, but it's impressive that the Celtics were able to up their defense game with little rest on their key players after winning the conference finals.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 10, 2022, 09:15:56 AM

It is risky if Warriors will go home with that standing, they need to do everything to snatch a game and tied these series inside TD Garden.

Much exciting if playing back home they are highly motivated, though we can't discredit with how the Celtics are trying their best to make

things favorable to their end, that game 1 collapse from Warriors 4th quarter game is something that they are enjoying right now. They will

do everything to keep the lead and continue to play a game ahead with the Warriors.

I agree that is the worst thing that could happen. And given that the Celtics don't lose back-to-back, the warriors cannot afford to lose game 4. If the warriors fall to 1-3, the Celtics most likely will take the championship in game 6.

They need to put themselves together and address and adjust their plays accordingly. Especially when Curry is trapped or mismatched. If they figure that out, they have a higher percentage of tying the series 2-2.

I’m expecting a great game tonight. I hope Steph is feeling better after his injury scare last game. Klay really needs to step it up and have a good game too. I can’t believe how well Boston has played these last 2 series’. They might just be on the verge of an NBA championship after tonight. I hope we see this series go 7 games though because I don’t want the season to end.

Even me would really like to see until game 7 which would really make things to be worth but if Celts would able to get this and secure 3 wins then they are indeed on the verge on being a champion.

But definitely Warriors wont really be letting for this thing to happen and its indeed true that Klay should step up his game, his recent plays where good but still really needs more.They shouldnt rely

too much with Curry on making out some points but rather be a all-rounder kind of team which making points on each member and good execution of plays but lets see if Celtics
would let it happen.

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Quote from: jakelyson on June 10, 2022, 09:44:09 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on June 10, 2022, 09:15:56 AM

It is risky if Warriors will go home with that standing, they need to do everything to snatch a game and tied these series inside TD Garden.

Much exciting if playing back home they are highly motivated, though we can't discredit with how the Celtics are trying their best to make

things favorable to their end, that game 1 collapse from Warriors 4th quarter game is something that they are enjoying right now. They will

do everything to keep the lead and continue to play a game ahead with the Warriors.

I agree that is the worst thing that could happen. And given that the Celtics don't lose back-to-back, the warriors cannot afford to lose game 4. If the warriors fall to 1-3, the Celtics most likely will take the championship in game 6.

They need to put themselves together and address and adjust their plays accordingly. Especially when Curry is trapped or mismatched. If they figure that out, they have a higher percentage of tying the series 2-2.

I’m expecting a great game tonight. I hope Steph is feeling better after his injury scare last game. Klay really needs to step it up and have a good game too. I can’t believe how well Boston has played these last 2 series’. They might just be on the verge of an NBA championship after tonight. I hope we see this series go 7 games though because I don’t want the season to end.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 10, 2022, 09:15:56 AM

It is risky if Warriors will go home with that standing, they need to do everything to snatch a game and tied these series inside TD Garden.

Much exciting if playing back home they are highly motivated, though we can't discredit with how the Celtics are trying their best to make

things favorable to their end, that game 1 collapse from Warriors 4th quarter game is something that they are enjoying right now. They will

do everything to keep the lead and continue to play a game ahead with the Warriors.

I agree that is the worst thing that could happen. And given that the Celtics don't lose back-to-back, the warriors cannot afford to lose game 4. If the warriors fall to 1-3, the Celtics most likely will take the championship in game 6.

They need to put themselves together and address and adjust their plays accordingly. Especially when Curry is trapped or mismatched. If they figure that out, they have a higher percentage of tying the series 2-2.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 09, 2022, 06:06:08 PM

I'm not very positive about it though because I expect Warriors to come back solid for the game up next. The series could come to 2-2.

As for every team that comes from a loss, it's expected that the Golden State Warriors will surely do everything to win and bounce back the next game. In fact, even Warriors are behind a large lead right from the start of the 1st Quarter, they made an effort to narrow the lead entering the 4th Quarter. The Celtics surely got alerted when the Warriors are now closing the gap that's why they focus seriously again to bring the momentum back to them.

If the same Celtics energy will be shown next game, probably the Warriors will return to their home with a 1-3 score. But that was risky for the Warriors as even if they won Game 5 let's say they are 1-3 on Game 4, they will return again to TD Garden on Game 6 and the Celtics might finish them now.

It is risky if Warriors will go home with that standing, they need to do everything to snatch a game and tied these series inside TD Garden.

Much exciting if playing back home they are highly motivated, though we can't discredit with how the Celtics are trying their best to make

things favorable to their end, that game 1 collapse from Warriors 4th quarter game is something that they are enjoying right now. They will

do everything to keep the lead and continue to play a game ahead with the Warriors.

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Quote from: Text on June 09, 2022, 05:24:45 PM

Would it be the defense that wins championships?

That Boston's intense hustle plays, I thought the momentum of the Warriors was continuous when they already leads the game.

It started by Brown and finished by Tatum (seems lucky).

I guess that still applies here and I wouldn't definitely call that lucky when in fact they are doing what they can. These guys are professionals and I wouldn't call those just lucky. The Warriors players are impossible to contact on their outside shootings, most of them are elite when it comes to that but I think if only Draymond can defend its best plus the foul trouble they had, that wouldn't make them win yesterday. They need to defend the paint, it's where the Celtics are good at.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 09, 2022, 06:06:08 PM

I'm not very positive about it though because I expect Warriors to come back solid for the game up next. The series could come to 2-2.

As for every team that comes from a loss, it's expected that the Golden State Warriors will surely do everything to win and bounce back the next game. In fact, even Warriors are behind a large lead right from the start of the 1st Quarter, they made an effort to narrow the lead entering the 4th Quarter. The Celtics surely got alerted when the Warriors are now closing the gap that's why they focus seriously again to bring the momentum back to them.

If the same Celtics energy will be shown next game, probably the Warriors will return to their home with a 1-3 score. But that was risky for the Warriors as even if they won Game 5 let's say they are 1-3 on Game 4, they will return again to TD Garden on Game 6 and the Celtics might finish them now.

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I had an expectation from Celtics to win the Game 3 by a small gap but it wasn't small at all. They won the game comfortably by a sixteen-point gap actually. The interesting thing is they owe this comfortable win to their performance in the final quarter again. Now we see that they are in the lead by 2-1, I wonder if they will do this again in the Game 4 too. I'm not very positive about it though because I expect Warriors to come back solid for the game up next. The series could come to 2-2.

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Quote from: karabiber on June 09, 2022, 09:39:57 AM

.... Curry is playing exceptionally well apart from the second half of game one.

Looks to me like he's playing on his average. Don't get me wrong. I think he's doing good but to say "exceptionally well" means crazy numbers and high efficiency.

I actually feel bad for Curry when the Celtics get a mismatch. They get easy points off him hehe.

Quote from: Harkorede on June 09, 2022, 05:12:34 PM

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they throw very long passes and forcing plays which leads turnovers after turnovers,

It just goes to show it's not easy to get trough the Celtics defense.

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Would it be the defense that wins championships?

That Boston's intense hustle plays, I thought the momentum of the Warriors was continuous when they already leads the game.

It started by Brown and finished by Tatum (seems lucky).

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 09, 2022, 05:12:34 PM

Quote from: joeperry on June 09, 2022, 06:45:39 AM

I expect that the Golden State will lose this round but I didn't expect that they would give such performance, there's a lot of lose ball and interceptions, bad passes. It looks like they didn't expect that the defense of the Boston will be really that close. Performance from Tatum is really great, execution of plays as well as the attacks from the Celtics are great.

Looking forward for GSW win in the next round.

There were just so many bad play and decisions from the Warriors, especially when they get close after trailing by as many as double digits, they throw very long passes and forcing plays which leads turnovers after turnovers, and that always gave the Celtics the chance to build up the lead again, the Celtics were really patient with almost every of their possession even after they lost the lead momentarily.

Game 4 is must win for the Warriors, or they can as well forget about the chances of winning the championship this year.

The ball is round then it isnt over yet even it would be 3-1 but doesnt mean that there would be no chance of sweep from warriors but we know that every game should be a desperate one or very that serious if they do really
plan to get the championship.I do agree with those bad decisions and long passes which do really in result on turnovers which is really a lost opportunity on making points.
They should lessen it on next game.. Warriors could easily close the gap if they do really execute their plays well and dont get too much confidence i would say.

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Quote from: joeperry on June 09, 2022, 06:45:39 AM

I expect that the Golden State will lose this round but I didn't expect that they would give such performance, there's a lot of lose ball and interceptions, bad passes. It looks like they didn't expect that the defense of the Boston will be really that close. Performance from Tatum is really great, execution of plays as well as the attacks from the Celtics are great.

Looking forward for GSW win in the next round.

There were just so many bad play and decisions from the Warriors, especially when they get close after trailing by as many as double digits, they throw very long passes and forcing plays which leads turnovers after turnovers, and that always gave the Celtics the chance to build up the lead again, the Celtics were really patient with almost every of their possession even after they lost the lead momentarily.

Game 4 is must win for the Warriors, or they can as well forget about the chances of winning the championship this year.

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Quote from: karabiber on June 09, 2022, 09:39:57 AM

We watched the impressive Boston Celtics defense. This was really great. I mentioned how important defense is. I'm watching the most competitive and physics-based finale I've watched lately. Tatum does a good job in the finale. Curry is playing exceptionally well apart from the second half of game one. The physics challenge is a high level final and i envy the audience there.

Yes, me too! Maybe some Celtics players don't have a talent like Curry or Thompson for example, but in compensation they are "giving blood" for this game!
I believe it's been more than 10 years since the Celtics reached an NBA Finals, another interesting point is that, this is the first NBA Finals that Tatum, Brown, Smart and other young Celtics players are participating!

I believe this is an important variable that can be observed for the results of these last games we had between Celtics vs Warriors!

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A great match Celtics who dominated almost the entire game. Warriors actually returned to this match for a while only in the third quarter, but the reaction of the hosts was very good and they quickly returned to a 10+ point advantage, which they did not lose until the end of the match. In the Boston team, as usual, great Tatum and Brown, and today finally also Marcus Smart showed his high class. All three of them finished the match with 20+ pts, 5+ reb and 5+ as. The last time this happened in 1984.

They got the chance to flip the momentum but the trio Smart, Brown, and Tatum are just impossible to contain on the last quarter. I guess they need to put similar effort this Saturday for them to extend the lead and they should do since it's still their homecourt and that's their main advantage to dominate.

Yes, both teams trio are the key, but this time, it was the Celtics who played exceptionally well. Warriors though are good that they made a great comeback to cut the lead. But the Celtics again with Tatum, Brown and Smart with their athleticism, dominated the Warriors in their homecourt. And the efforts that this guy game is really tremendous in both offense and defense and it's obvious that they have the momentum.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 09, 2022, 11:28:17 AM

A great match Celtics who dominated almost the entire game. Warriors actually returned to this match for a while only in the third quarter, but the reaction of the hosts was very good and they quickly returned to a 10+ point advantage, which they did not lose until the end of the match. In the Boston team, as usual, great Tatum and Brown, and today finally also Marcus Smart showed his high class. All three of them finished the match with 20+ pts, 5+ reb and 5+ as. The last time this happened in 1984.

They got the chance to flip the momentum but the trio Smart, Brown, and Tatum are just impossible to contain on the last quarter. I guess they need to put similar effort this Saturday for them to extend the lead and they should do since it's still their homecourt and that's their main advantage to dominate.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 09, 2022, 01:20:25 PM

I would agree about those odds... I don't think of the Warriors as underdogs at all. I still think the pressure is on the Celtics to win the next game, but if they do win that game... The Warriors have a serious uphill battle to win. All things considered though, it would give them a chance to redeem themselves for the 3-1 Cleveland series and give the 3-1 a new meaning. That would be pretty awesome for them, so I'll keep that in the back of my mind as a silver lining if they lose the next game. I think the Celtics are running out of surprises though. Their gameplan seems to keep changing, but I don't know how many surprises they have left.

I agree. I get that Celtics is ahead right now, but Warriors are warriors, even when they look bad, they are still dangerous. Next game up, Warriors could come out, play a disgustingly efficient game, win by 20+ and none of us would be shocked about it at all. Not saying that they will, but that is never out of question when we are talking about Warriors.

I would say that it is quite easy to wager on this, do not put the whole house down on it of course, not like it is guaranteed for Warriors to win, if it was like that then warriors wouldn't have 2.70+ odds, but at the same time, it is not going to be that difficult for them to reverse this and tie it as well.

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Game 2 was a very decent one for Warriors undoubtedly. They just crushed Celtics by a big point difference and something went really wrong with Celtics defense in this game. It wasn't solid as it was in the first game. It looks like Warriors found a good solution for this and destroyed them literally. For Game 3, I'm not sure about the result. It is very hard to predict now as maybe Warriors would catch Celtics by surprise in away court like Celtics did to them in Game 1. Or maybe Celtics will have their revenge on them. In any case, I believe that it will end up by a little gap.

Something wrong with the Celtics' defense in Game 2? No, I actually think their defense is their usual.

The problem is even how good the Celtics' defense is, the Warriors shooting percentage are really hot. There are lots of shots made by the Warriors that were actually defended and guarded well but still, they draining those shots. That's how good the Warriors' offensive attack is even though the Celtics attempt to guard it hardly.

Since then, the Warriors are really known for that and the only thing to stop those are just to continue doing the best defense as much as possible while at the same time, making it to the point that the Celtics' hot shooting should be executed as well.

Maybe you are right about that, yeah. I must have thought like that because of their being helpless against Warriors' incredible shot percentage. However Warriors are inconsistent about this performance too so this might create an opportunity for Celtics in Game 3. Celtics should focus on their shooting too against a team like Warriors. They must decrease the number of shots missed to minimum to increase their chance of winning against Warriors and even winning the series too.

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.... I even thought that Golden State would win in a part of the match,

What do you mean "part of the match"? Like a particular quarter? They actually did if that's what you mean. Warriors outscored the Celtics and took the lead momentarily in the third quarter.

Gotta give credit to the mettle of the Celtics. I thought they were going to collapse after the GSW comeback in Q3. It's to think this team consists of first-time Finalists.

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What do you think of Horford's foul on Curry? It was called flagrant but I think it was normal. It's not like Horford intentionally placed his feet under Curry.

Yes, I thought the Golden State Warriors would win in the third quarter of the game because they had a pretty good series.

I think it is not easy to make a foul decision in such positions, but the decision made by the referees is correct. In high-tempo and important matches, the players take the field with all their strength and sometimes such positions can occur. The important thing is that the players are not injured and that they can finish the match in a healthy way

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Quote from: Maslate on June 09, 2022, 11:50:49 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 09, 2022, 11:22:04 AM

Latest championship odds.

Warriors 2.70
Celtics 1.48

Very attractive odds for the Warriors, I can get a 2.87 odds using the price boost, I like these odds now because I believe that the Warriors will not easily fold down, they have the championship DNA on them, so these odds are not only attractive but also an opportunity for those who want some good value.

I would agree about those odds... I don't think of the Warriors as underdogs at all. I still think the pressure is on the Celtics to win the next game, but if they do win that game... The Warriors have a serious uphill battle to win. All things considered though, it would give them a chance to redeem themselves for the 3-1 Cleveland series and give the 3-1 a new meaning. That would be pretty awesome for them, so I'll keep that in the back of my mind as a silver lining if they lose the next game. I think the Celtics are running out of surprises though. Their gameplan seems to keep changing, but I don't know how many surprises they have left.

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