Topic: Need 100BTC Loan - High Interest Potential, Guaranteed Repayment (Read 2408 times)
Hell, I could take a dump in a box and stamp "Guaranteed" on it. But what have you got then, but a guaranteed piece of shit? (the exchange above reminded me of Tommy Boy)
January 30, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
My last response in this thread.
"Provide a formal assurance or promise, esp. that certain conditions shall be fulfilled relating to a product, service, or transaction."
Done.
Guarantee provided.
Am I lying about the guarantee? That's not something that is black and white. The guarantee is still there, whether you view it as that or not.
"Provide a formal assurance or promise, esp. that certain conditions shall be fulfilled relating to a product, service, or transaction."
Done.
Guarantee provided.
Am I lying about the guarantee? That's not something that is black and white. The guarantee is still there, whether you view it as that or not.
Where's the formality? You've posted some words on a forum under an anonymous account. You totally glossed over the formal part (signatures, witnesses, etc) - what you have posted is not a guarantee, period.
January 30, 2013, 04:22:04 PM
If anyone has interest in this, please contact me via PM. I have no problem being transparent and will provide more details for serious lenders. I will not be keeping up with back and forth in this thread. One of the hardest things to do is to push someone off of their first impression/opinion. I know there are many scammers out there, but I should not have to automatically defend myself just because of other's choices.
You have to defend yourself because you put "Guaranteed Repayment" in the title, without actually providing any guarantee.
My last response in this thread.
"Provide a formal assurance or promise, esp. that certain conditions shall be fulfilled relating to a product, service, or transaction."
Done.
Guarantee provided.
Am I lying about the guarantee? That's not something that is black and white. The guarantee is still there, whether you view it as that or not.
Good enough for me. Go wait by the Bitcoin faucet and 100 BTC shall pour out promptly.
January 30, 2013, 04:19:50 PM
If anyone has interest in this, please contact me via PM. I have no problem being transparent and will provide more details for serious lenders. I will not be keeping up with back and forth in this thread. One of the hardest things to do is to push someone off of their first impression/opinion. I know there are many scammers out there, but I should not have to automatically defend myself just because of other's choices.
You have to defend yourself because you put "Guaranteed Repayment" in the title, without actually providing any guarantee.
My last response in this thread.
"Provide a formal assurance or promise, esp. that certain conditions shall be fulfilled relating to a product, service, or transaction."
Done.
Guarantee provided.
Am I lying about the guarantee? That's not something that is black and white. The guarantee is still there, whether you view it as that or not.
January 30, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
If anyone has interest in this, please contact me via PM. I have no problem being transparent and will provide more details for serious lenders. I will not be keeping up with back and forth in this thread. One of the hardest things to do is to push someone off of their first impression/opinion. I know there are many scammers out there, but I should not have to automatically defend myself just because of other's choices.
You have to defend yourself because you put "Guaranteed Repayment" in the title, without actually providing any guarantee.
January 30, 2013, 04:16:10 PM
If anyone has interest in this, please contact me via PM. I have no problem being transparent and will provide more details for serious lenders. I will not be keeping up with back and forth in this thread. One of the hardest things to do is to push someone off of their first impression/opinion. I know there are many scammers out there, but I should not have to automatically defend myself just because of other's choices.
January 30, 2013, 04:14:30 PM
I doubt a normal bank would take Adsense-earning websites as collateral?
Absolutely wrong. Assuming you are legit and have a proper business that you make adsense income from, that would be considered collateral. However, something tells me you get your income "under the table" and nothing about you appears on the books. That's why you want to trick someone into giving you coins.
January 30, 2013, 04:13:18 PM
Everyone will automatically approach this as a scam. People will post and pick things out or make outlandish claims. You can have your own views, that's not a problem. I know that I am legit and capable of paying back the loan. Therefore, I can say that it is "guaranteed" because there is no doubt in my mind. Even garnishing of wages is not a guarantee in that sense. What if I were to quit or get fired before defaulting? Of course, collateral would be a more solid example of a 'guarantee' for the loan.
One guy even guaranteed with his soul. Guess what? He still ran off with the coins.
You must think we are all idiots.
True story.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93003.0;topicseen
January 30, 2013, 04:12:03 PM
How is there no guarantee if I claim that I guarantee to repay it?
A claim is not a guarantee. It's just your word, and believe it or not, people don't always keep their word - esp when they have $2,000 they don't want to repay.
For example, a letter from your HR verifying you are past probation and that your wages will be garnished if you default. Or a lien on your vehicle until the debt is paid off. These are actually things that force you to repay, making it more likely you will.
Unless you are willing to provide an actual guarantee that you will repay, stating it just makes you look like a scammer.
LARGE returns and SECRET investments are red flags as well. Sounds like a little illegal activity being planned, financed by someone else without risk to OP, but hey, it's guaranteed. That's good enough for me!
Just as to be expected, people are making comments without knowing the details. Assumptions will get you no where in this world, it's the most -ev point of view to take. Why would it make any sense to disclose specific information on my investment plan in public? I said I will disclose more details in private for those that are genuinely interested.
If anyone wants a collateral, then I will consider a secured loan with a much lower interest rate. I have assets that I can put up if we went this way. Profit sharing would obviously not be an option though.
If you have collateral, go to a normal bank.
I doubt a normal bank would take Adsense-earning websites as collateral?
January 30, 2013, 04:11:02 PM
How is there no guarantee if I claim that I guarantee to repay it?
A claim is not a guarantee. It's just your word, and believe it or not, people don't always keep their word - esp when they have $2,000 they don't want to repay.
For example, a letter from your HR verifying you are past probation and that your wages will be garnished if you default. Or a lien on your vehicle until the debt is paid off. These are actually things that force you to repay, making it more likely you will.
Unless you are willing to provide an actual guarantee that you will repay, stating it just makes you look like a scammer.
LARGE returns and SECRET investments are red flags as well. Sounds like a little illegal activity being planned, financed by someone else without risk to OP, but hey, it's guaranteed. That's good enough for me!
Just as to be expected, people are making comments without knowing the details. Assumptions will get you no where in this world, it's the most -ev point of view to take. Why would it make any sense to disclose specific information on my investment plan in public? I said I will disclose more details in private for those that are genuinely interested.
If anyone wants a collateral, then I will consider a secured loan with a much lower interest rate. I have assets that I can put up if we went this way. Profit sharing would obviously not be an option though.
If you have collateral, go to a normal bank.
January 30, 2013, 04:10:12 PM
Everyone will automatically approach this as a scam. People will post and pick things out or make outlandish claims. You can have your own views, that's not a problem. I know that I am legit and capable of paying back the loan. Therefore, I can say that it is "guaranteed" because there is no doubt in my mind. Even garnishing of wages is not a guarantee in that sense. What if I were to quit or get fired before defaulting? Of course, collateral would be a more solid example of a 'guarantee' for the loan.
One guy even guaranteed with his soul. Guess what? He still ran off with the coins.
You must think we are all idiots.
January 30, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
How is there no guarantee if I claim that I guarantee to repay it?
A claim is not a guarantee. It's just your word, and believe it or not, people don't always keep their word - esp when they have $2,000 they don't want to repay.
For example, a letter from your HR verifying you are past probation and that your wages will be garnished if you default. Or a lien on your vehicle until the debt is paid off. These are actually things that force you to repay, making it more likely you will.
Unless you are willing to provide an actual guarantee that you will repay, stating it just makes you look like a scammer.
LARGE returns and SECRET investments are red flags as well. Sounds like a little illegal activity being planned, financed by someone else without risk to OP, but hey, it's guaranteed. That's good enough for me!
Just as to be expected, people are making comments without knowing the details. Assumptions will get you no where in this world, it's the most -ev point of view to take. Why would it make any sense to disclose specific information on my investment plan in public? I said I will disclose more details in private for those that are genuinely interested.
If anyone wants a collateral, then I will consider a secured loan with a much lower interest rate. I have assets that I can put up if we went this way. Profit sharing would obviously not be an option though.
January 30, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
How is there no guarantee if I claim that I guarantee to repay it?
A claim is not a guarantee. It's just your word, and believe it or not, people don't always keep their word - esp when they have $2,000 they don't want to repay.
For example, a letter from your HR verifying you are past probation and that your wages will be garnished if you default. Or a lien on your vehicle until the debt is paid off. These are actually things that force you to repay, making it more likely you will.
Unless you are willing to provide an actual guarantee that you will repay, stating it just makes you look like a scammer.
LARGE returns and SECRET investments are red flags as well. Sounds like a little illegal activity being planned, financed by someone else without risk to OP, but hey, it's guaranteed. That's good enough for me!
January 30, 2013, 04:03:12 PM
How is there no guarantee if I claim that I guarantee to repay it?
A claim is not a guarantee. It's just your word, and believe it or not, people don't always keep their word - esp when they have $2,000 they don't want to repay.
For example, a letter from your HR verifying you are past probation and that your wages will be garnished if you default. Or a lien on your vehicle until the debt is paid off. These are actually things that force you to repay, making it more likely you will.
Unless you are willing to provide an actual guarantee that you will repay, stating it just makes you look like a scammer.
Everyone will automatically approach this as a scam. People will post and pick things out or make outlandish claims. You can have your own views, that's not a problem. I know that I am legit and capable of paying back the loan. Therefore, I can say that it is "guaranteed" because there is no doubt in my mind. Even garnishing of wages is not a guarantee in that sense. What if I were to quit or get fired before defaulting? Of course, collateral would be a more solid example of a 'guarantee' for the loan.
January 30, 2013, 04:00:14 PM
How is there no guarantee if I claim that I guarantee to repay it?
A claim is not a guarantee. It's just your word, and believe it or not, people don't always keep their word - esp when they have $2,000 they don't want to repay.
For example, a letter from your HR verifying you are past probation and that your wages will be garnished if you default. Or a lien on your vehicle until the debt is paid off. These are actually things that force you to repay, making it more likely you will.
Unless you are willing to provide an actual guarantee that you will repay, stating it just makes you look like a scammer.
January 30, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
How is repayment guaranteed? I see no details of this in your post.
The investment itself has no guarantee. I am taking investors on as partners. Repayment is done after a short grace period and we can determine the repayment terms. If the investment fails for any reason (highly unlikely), the money invested and the interest amount will be repaid monthly out of my own funds. I just cannot put out the full amount up front on my own as I have a baby here and I need to minimize risks. After the investment gets moving and capital grows, there will be a point where I no longer accept re-investments and I will just re-invest with my own capital/profit.
Details can be discussed further in private.
If you don't actually guarantee the repayment of the funds, you probably should remove the word "Guaranteed" from your thread title.
How is there no guarantee if I claim that I guarantee to repay it?
January 30, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
How is repayment guaranteed? I see no details of this in your post.
The investment itself has no guarantee. I am taking investors on as partners. Repayment is done after a short grace period and we can determine the repayment terms. If the investment fails for any reason (highly unlikely), the money invested and the interest amount will be repaid monthly out of my own funds. I just cannot put out the full amount up front on my own as I have a baby here and I need to minimize risks. After the investment gets moving and capital grows, there will be a point where I no longer accept re-investments and I will just re-invest with my own capital/profit.
Details can be discussed further in private.
If you don't actually guarantee the repayment of the funds, you probably should remove the word "Guaranteed" from your thread title.
January 30, 2013, 03:01:32 PM
How is repayment guaranteed? I see no details of this in your post.
The investment itself has no guarantee. I am taking investors on as partners. Repayment is done after a short grace period and we can determine the repayment terms. If the investment fails for any reason (highly unlikely), the money invested and the interest amount will be repaid monthly out of my own funds. I just cannot put out the full amount up front on my own as I have a baby here and I need to minimize risks. After the investment gets moving and capital grows, there will be a point where I no longer accept re-investments and I will just re-invest with my own capital/profit.
Details can be discussed further in private.
January 30, 2013, 02:40:10 PM
Try making a btc jam account and verify it with all possible avenues first.
January 30, 2013, 02:38:26 PM
How is repayment guaranteed? I see no details of this in your post.
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