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legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
Why are you spamming my inbox? Stop doing that.

I don't see this addressed:

He even translated my threads to English (because I told him to do so to get more merits) and we interacted there as a friend, please go and check.
So you told "him" to post something which you have posted and then you merited your own words?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35343659
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47116430
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42370203

You are right added 2FA to my guide, thanks.
Oh!

Just come to my mind that Crypto mania account was registered after merit system was introduced and bounties were at the end with profitability.
Just came to my mind that it makes sense to register account after merit system was introduced to exchange merits to rank up your account:



72 merits to crypto mania, 36 merit back to wwzsocki.

So back to that thread you told your fwiend to translate for merits:

You are right added 2FA to my guide, thanks.
Added as the second point in my guide

You are right is a very good guide and is worth to keep it visible. [...]
I have merited you too because I think is just not right that such helpful guides are not merited at all when other members get 50 merits for one line comments.

I will add this suggestion to my guide because I think is a really important one.

You merited your own guild which you "told your fwiend to translate for merits" and these merits eventually went back to you, and as I can see crypto mania likes to "multi post" things the same way you are doing in this thread.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1655
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<...> Because some account farmers used the same addresses and emails does not mean that two friends or a family can not share them because we have not violated any rules.

I suppose that you can prove your words only if administrator will check your accounts and say that you and Cryptomania both logged into the forum from different devices and places.

Considering your Reporter Statistics and the number of earned merit, I think there is a chance that one of the administrators will agree to check your profile to help solve this case.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1655
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As far as I know, even the closest relatives, generally, have different emails.
I have explained in details email accusation in this thread already. Please be so kind and read the full thread.

Yes, I read your explanation.

So you're telling that Cryptomania was able to register on Bitcointalk with his own email, but he couldn't do the same in the bounty campaign?
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1517
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However, in the Einc signature campaign in June 2018 Cryptomania had other ETH wallet

Sadly I'm very busy these weeks and I can't look here, only one thing about Einc, the protocol should be not based on ethereum but on a different blockchain so the address should be different from the usual user address https://einc.io/
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1655
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<...> and that some account farmers used the same addresses and emails does not mean that two friends or a family can not share them because we have not violated any rules or bounty nor forum, and merits can be given freely and I have awarded equal amounts to other members?

As far as I know, even the closest relatives, generally, have different emails.




However, in the Einc signature campaign in June 2018 Cryptomania had other ETH wallet




If I want to create an alt why so late? When there was no way to rank up fast?

Perhaps you decided to create another account after you've got the red trust for the first time.

<...> I am on Bitcointalk for 5 years using only one account because in my stupidy I have never opened an alt account because I was hoping that something like this never happens to me. <...>
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
So I noticed someone and without checking account I made assumption [...]
So? Is my assumption correct?

No, your assumption is not correct

You mean yes, my assumption is correct:

and I asked you is sud your friend too:
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Yes we are friends from local and other boards, we know each other from other forums/telegram/social.

assumption that they are from Poland


https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sud-974532

assumption [...]that you are merit fans
No, we are not merit fans


source: https://bpip.org/

That makes 3 friends in masternode shitcoin thread talking to themselves and meriting each others shitposts. Makes me wonder....

@Veleor what's with that addy?
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1655
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Theymos posted that there is no red paint or other penalties for merits, and anybody can give merits to any post he wants.

Actually, in some cases, members are punished by the forum administration for merit abuse.

Is it your ETH wallet 0x36Aa273ca0f24b587810980e5C478a7A71D1EeBE? (Edited)
sud
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 301
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Yeah, and the entire Polish local forum is alt accounts trading merits, right? Roll Eyes

No, your assumption is not correct, don't go too far with your accusations please. Yes we are friends from local and other boards, we know each other from other forums/telegram/social. Also I gave most merit to posts I like from users I know (same with receiving), just like you are giving a lot of points to members you know and discuss with. System working as intended. I'm not sure about exact rules, but for all I know you can give all your merit to one user if you wanted to, your choice.

Regarding the topic, I know @wwzsocki enough to know that he wouldn't risk his reputation making alts for a few merits and I don't agree with those accusations - although it may look bad if all you do is hunting for alts/scams/spam. But judging by your posts, looks like nothing can change your mind now, so I'll leave it at that.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
You start accusing all great members of this community that they are my alt or shills. I hope @Sud will come to this thread and answer to your accusations.
Accusation is for accounts crypto mania and account wwzsocki as far as I can see. So I noticed someone and without checking account I made assumption that they are from Poland and that you are merit fans, and I asked you is sud your friend too:

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Is sud (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sud-974532) your friend too?

I see intensive posting by at least 3 accounts in that thread. I won't even bother to check account, but let me guess, they are active in Poland local and you are "merit fans"?
So? Is my assumption correct?
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1708
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I have asked a question above, would you be so kind to answer, please.
And I have already told you what I think.

I can't sync my wallet from yesterday. I have 12 active connections and I see masternodes but still 3 days behind and nothing moves forward. Tried few times and nothing. Anybody experienced such a problem lately. I don't know if I have to recover my wallet or maybe this is a bug and not only my wallet doesn't sync. Feedback will be appreciated.

Where are dev and updates Huh

I saw an announcement from the developer that he will need 10 days and already 2 weeks passed and nothing.  Undecided
I just checked my wallet and I have no problem with syncing. After few minutes my wallet was fully synchronized so there is something with your wallet or files.

Do you have any error message or something? Antivirus?

I don't know what happens with dev but from what I know he asked for 2 weeks time to resolve his problems after the drive crash. He said, " I need 10 - 15 days". So there is still one day left.  Wink Just be calm and wait few days longer. I think that we will see further development because the developer is very committed to Masternodecoin project.

Thanks, wwzsocki appreciate your help. +1 Wink

I just recovered my wallet from the .dat and used provided above blockchain file for faster synchronization. I don't know what happened. Some corrupted file or something similar because I haven't changed or deleted nothing on my computer lately, only reinstalled Masternodecoin client.

Do you have information about the developer and are you in contact with him?

...Do you have information about the developer and are you in contact with him?


Thanks for merit, glad that I could help.

Like I said before: "I don't know what happens with dev but from what I know he asked for 2 weeks time to resolve his problems after the drive crash. He said, " I need 10 - 15 days". So there is still one day left. Just be calm and wait few days longer. I think that we will see further development because the developer is very committed to Masternodecoin project."

I hope this answers your questions.

Great news Dev. I see that Masternodecoin.org webpage is refreshed and working again with new information and tutorials added. Good to see such a progress. This new look is great.

I think it would be great to add a tutorial " how to update your wallet " for a newbie, not tech-savvy users to avoid questions about this.

A lot of great news lately from Masternodecoin team. Nice progress guys. I have just seen latest new and will update my wallet to the new V4.0.0.0 version. I will update later how this new wallet works. Keep up like this and maybe finally we will see Masternodecoin price go up.

Looks like classing shilling for shitcoin from alt accounts.

Is sud your friend too?

Yes, airdrop is on the roadmap and since one key bounty feature is implemented in the latest version, I hope it will start very soon.

I see intensive posting by at least 3 accounts in that thread. I won't even bother to check account, but let me guess, they are active in Poland local and you are "merit fans"?

You start accusing all great members of this community that they are my alt or shills. I hope @Sud will come to this thread and answer to your accusations.

If you will read Masternodecoin thread you will see that I was in promotion team for a half year and the first project Crypto mania invested was Masternodecoin were we had masternodes. But that is private information and I don't have to disclose that in every post. I don't have to act on the forum in every post as we are best friends and I told you why a few times before (this is an anonymous forum). @Sud is one of masternode owner and longtime forum member. And yes @Sud is my friend but I don't know him in real life.

I will be back tomorrow again.

You never answered my question so I will repeat it here:

There is no way on the forum to register a friend or family accounts, were close friends or family leaders would be safe from such accusations. I did all I can to inform the forum that we know each other, and are involved in a few projects together. Multiple times posted about this during this year and added to my trust annotations. Crypto Mania did this same.

So please tell me what could I do more to inform you that we know each other, and that is not my alt account?
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
I have asked a question above, would you be so kind to answer, please.
And I have already told you what I think.

I can't sync my wallet from yesterday. I have 12 active connections and I see masternodes but still 3 days behind and nothing moves forward. Tried few times and nothing. Anybody experienced such a problem lately. I don't know if I have to recover my wallet or maybe this is a bug and not only my wallet doesn't sync. Feedback will be appreciated.

Where are dev and updates Huh

I saw an announcement from the developer that he will need 10 days and already 2 weeks passed and nothing.  Undecided
I just checked my wallet and I have no problem with syncing. After few minutes my wallet was fully synchronized so there is something with your wallet or files.

Do you have any error message or something? Antivirus?

I don't know what happens with dev but from what I know he asked for 2 weeks time to resolve his problems after the drive crash. He said, " I need 10 - 15 days". So there is still one day left.  Wink Just be calm and wait few days longer. I think that we will see further development because the developer is very committed to Masternodecoin project.

Thanks, wwzsocki appreciate your help. +1 Wink

I just recovered my wallet from the .dat and used provided above blockchain file for faster synchronization. I don't know what happened. Some corrupted file or something similar because I haven't changed or deleted nothing on my computer lately, only reinstalled Masternodecoin client.

Do you have information about the developer and are you in contact with him?

...Do you have information about the developer and are you in contact with him?


Thanks for merit, glad that I could help.

Like I said before: "I don't know what happens with dev but from what I know he asked for 2 weeks time to resolve his problems after the drive crash. He said, " I need 10 - 15 days". So there is still one day left. Just be calm and wait few days longer. I think that we will see further development because the developer is very committed to Masternodecoin project."

I hope this answers your questions.

Great news Dev. I see that Masternodecoin.org webpage is refreshed and working again with new information and tutorials added. Good to see such a progress. This new look is great.

I think it would be great to add a tutorial " how to update your wallet " for a newbie, not tech-savvy users to avoid questions about this.

A lot of great news lately from Masternodecoin team. Nice progress guys. I have just seen latest new and will update my wallet to the new V4.0.0.0 version. I will update later how this new wallet works. Keep up like this and maybe finally we will see Masternodecoin price go up.

Looks like classing shilling for shitcoin from alt accounts.

Is sud your friend too?

Yes, airdrop is on the roadmap and since one key bounty feature is implemented in latest version, I hope it will start very soon.

I see intensive posting by at least 3 accounts in that thread. I won't even bother to check account, but let me guess, they are active in Poland local and you are "merit fans"?
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
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Crypto mania invested in Investa project and lately there were distribution and first listings but there is hard to get detailed answers about the token so he posted in Investa Ann thread.
Of course, before he did he ask me for opinion and I answered in PM. He was not happy with my answers so like I said I advised to ask these questions in the thread.

Sharing email, telegram, ethereum address, facebook, referral link, IP, sitting in wwsocki's house and surfing internet together, still, communicating via PM's. About project you worked as advisor? Oh, now it all makes sense.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
This two members mistrusted me just after my first answer in this thread.
This is not true.
This looks like I was sentenced long before.
This is also not true. Why do you think you are so special?

Please show me one shitpost merited by me.
This is very interesting to read:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50791882
You forgot to put everything under quotation.

Next post:

Thank you @WWzsocki for this detailed post about Ibitt cards.
Of course, I will merit this post with my first free smerit because this is an answer to my PM where I asked about Ibitt exchange and cards.

I have a few additional questions about the cards:

1. Are these cards already issued and working?
2. Can I get one and use as it is described?
3. How long does it take to get the card to the EU?

And few more questions about INV token and listings on exchanges:

1. I see that INV token is listed on an exchange is this an official listing?
2. Why INV is not listed on Ibitt exchange?
-"Thank you mini-me for detailed copy/paste of someone's article"
-"No problem, here you go, +2 merits"


you see my influence on this account.
Roll Eyes

My posting style is different, I never quote hall posts only cut them and my writings are much better than his. I separate phrases, use commas, and many favicons which are not to find on the forum. Never seen the other account doing this. I am almost non stop on the forum 24 hours a day and post a lot which is 60 to 70 posts and he is only a few times a week and posts almost nothing which is 1or 2 posts.
Of course you do:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51180233

You forget to put your copy/pasta under quotation. Again.

And again, mysterious PM:
I know your concerns @Crypto Mania very good and I have already tried to answer in PM.

That is very interesting thread to read.

Look at more your great posts:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41794678
Looks like constructive post but it is not really a post because it is copy/pasted from telegram.

And what is this:

http://archive.is/4xjWe

A revolutionary project, very well developed and that will certainly be a great success in the market.

In Europe, Vapor industry is growing very fast. I see shops popping up everywhere with liquids and vapor equipment. Still, this is very hard to buy brands you love or simply prefer.

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I don't see source, now go and report yourself to moderator for plagiarism, seems your account is full of it.
full member
Activity: 476
Merit: 92
I  watch this thread but don't know what to add because wwzsocki already explained everything many times.
I just can't believe what I see and what is happening.
I can confirm that sometimes at the beginning I spammed and colorized my posts a little because of the lack of knowledge.

P.S
To be honest I don't give a fuck about this red trust because I don't use this forum almost anymore but I know how painful that has to be for you wwzsocki. Sorry.
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 2226
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This two members mistrusted me just after my first answer in this thread. This looks like I was sentenced long before.
@wwzsocki I can't reply all of your post due to my journey. But I want to point you that, even I don't know you before made this thread so there is no question that I tagged you for any other reason. Have you talked with me before ? Infant remember exactly.

Whatever you did with your friend/alt account, I were not bothered to tag you if you were not involved with merit trading. Alt account is allowed but merit trading with alt disallowed .  You continue meriting on same user increase the suspicion and someone bothered to create thread. Based on all the evidence I think you deserve tag. Otherwise other people's will do same mistake.


I am really not fan of destroy any account just for little mistakes. But you have done many mistakes. All the mistakes can't be coincidences. You defensive reply isn't going to change my mind. If you like you can create your reputation thread. If other DT members think I have done wrong with you then they could leave you counter feedback's or perhaps my feedback will turn into neutral.
legendary
Activity: 1484
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One more time he used my Telegram username without my knowledge. Everybody can because I have shared it multiple times.

Did your Facebook name also used by Cryptomania without your knowledge?

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copper member
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1837
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Man, this is real bad and I doubt so many people will believe you here. I have tried to read through and the worst things you did where to;
- Circulate huge amounts of Merit between yourselves
- Use same email
- Use same telegram
- Exchange trust ratings without any reference
etc
Knowing how this forum operates and how abusers get caught, If it was helping your friend that you were trying to do, then you shouldn't have done the said mistakes above in the first place because sooner or later, things will catch up with you.
You should have encouraged him to create him own personalized email or telegram. I mean, we have got to start from somewhere right?

I have read each reason from you for the above happenings but people will not believe you even if it were true. Alt accounts have been busted in past doing the same thing as you did and no one will think that your case is special.

Like you said we are anonymous here, and we don't really need to know each other but when members see something unusual with involves abuse of trust or merit, then they will put you on the spot light. I thought you should be knowing that by now.
legendary
Activity: 1484
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He doesn't have Telegram at all and that is why he used my nick, I assume. <...>

Cryptomania mentioned in April 2018 that he has a Telegram.

<...> I got few messages on Telegram because I have the same username and they are looking for new accounts and offer to buy merits for 5$ per 1merit. This is just insane. How to deal with that, where are fair chances and all because of merits system. <...>
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hero member
Activity: 2002
Merit: 535
There is nothing wrong in helping a friend and sharing things with him and informing about this site, but i have a few doubts after reading everything you said.

We know each other for almost a decade we live door to door. I trust him with a few bucks on ETH address and he wears my ref links. Is this against the forum rules?
Why is this a problem if we are shouting all around the forum that we know each other and that we are close friends?
I just sent a PM to @Crypto Mania but he is not available now to take a part in this discussion.
I am happy, I did it just after @Crypto Mania registered because now, I have evidence to defend myself against somebody who is hiding against a newbie account.
You said you are living door to door for a decade and if that is the case and if you think you are accused of something, what is the first thing you do, PM him about the issue and wait indefinitely or make a call and clarify this ASAP  Roll Eyes. Since you said you are living nearby and close friends for a decade i am certain that you have his phone number.


He doesn't have Telegram at all and that is why he used my nick, I assume. I didn't know about this but is this against forum rules?
I can't do anything if @Crypto Mania is doing newbie mistakes.
Do you think I will be so stupid to use same ETH address, usernames and ref links in my alt account? I will be tagged at first application to a signature campaign.
You know very well that all it takes to have a Telegram account is a phone and a phone number and how easy it is to install in your friends mobile. Since you are a user here for a long time you very well know that people will connect you with those and thousands of users got tagged and you mentioned that you know that very well, without your permission how can he use your telegram account, that is not a newbie mistake.
About ETH address and ref links, you can see many are caught using alt accounts because they can be connected and yes you are stupid enough to share the address while it takes a few minutes to create a ETH address even if he does not know shit about anything, you can keep the private key and send the address, what is so difficult if you are aware of the forum rules, so who is to be blamed here.


Yes, we have this is a bounty address. As you see in the title "ofertyww" means bounty, offers in Polish. Later he registered [email protected].
I have shared all knowledge with @Crypto mania at the beginning and helped to join bounties of good projects which I thought will be successful after research.
You have to remember that not everybody is 18 or 20. There are guys like me or him after the '50s and not a computer geek.
Even to create a new email address is a problem don't mention new wallets on ETH because is black magic for such people.
You really do not need to be a geek to create a mail ID, he knows how to join a bounty but does not have a clue about creating a mail ID Roll Eyes.

Note: There is too much evidence against you and let the community decide on what to do.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3139
might be worth looking into these as well, seems to be a lot of merit passed amongst these accounts in particular (in addition to the two mentioned in op).
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tytanowy-janusz-1925869
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptovigi-1697068
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/adamvp-830898

ill try and look through a bit later when i have time.

There aren't many posters on our local board so merit is often sent between same members. However, as a merit source, I don't agree with how some posts were awarded - that's highly subjective. I haven't read the whole thread yet.
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