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Let me guess. You're dyin' for a Tom
Topic: NEFT Vodka and Bitcoin - page 7. (Read 37989 times)
Let me guess. You're dyin' for a Tom
I'm going to swig cheap vodka now because NEFT is not available in my area.
This is a fact.
This is a fact.
Any news?
//DeaDTerra
//DeaDTerra
This thread has gotten super super lame. Pls talk about vodka.
For example:
I'm going to swig cheap vodka now because NEFT is not available in my area.
For example:
I'm going to swig cheap vodka now because NEFT is not available in my area.
This thread has gotten super super lame. Pls talk about vodka.
For example:
I'm going to swig cheap vodka now because NEFT is not available in my area.
For example:
I'm going to swig cheap vodka now because NEFT is not available in my area.
I beg to differ. 
http://derstandard.at/suche/?query=bitcoin&ressortId=0&status=AktivArchiv&period=FromTo&startDate=1.1.2009&endDate=11.9.2012&sortOrder=Date
http://derstandard.at/suche/?query=bitcoin&ressortId=0&status=AktivArchiv&period=FromTo&startDate=1.1.2009&endDate=11.9.2012&sortOrder=Date
Good fine. I see my mistake. I was only going a month back thinking I was getting them all.
~Bruno~
http://derstandard.at/suche/?query=bitcoin
This is the first time that derStandard.at has even penned anything related to Bitcoin. Said site does have a Thomas Holzinger doing IT along with a couple Alex's.
~Bruno~
This is the first time that derStandard.at has even penned anything related to Bitcoin. Said site does have a Thomas Holzinger doing IT along with a couple Alex's.
~Bruno~
For the life of me, I can't see how Thomas Holzinger's name can be attached to either entity with the exception that that's the name both companies are registered under.
There are 2 Alex's. One is full time on the BitcoinCard and friends with the other Alex who runs NEFT with Tom.
Are you sure that Thomas Holzinger is really behind both businesses, and not just an owner/worker in a PR firm that both businesses hired? For instance maybe part of the services they offer is registering domains and hosting websites? Just wondering out loud...
Thomas Holzinger is the general manager of NEFT for Europe and a good friend of mine...he has nothing to do with the BitcoinCard as my understanding.
It's possible he has registered domain names, but it probably means he works with the same people, like I said similar business interests.
Sorry Bruno, everything I told you is transparent and truthful.
Oh, neither of those guys in the picture is Thomas, I've never seen those guys before.
I fucked up again! No excuses and I wasn't tired. There's only 11 Thomas Holzinger on Lindedin, and I thought for sure I had the right one.
Once again, I suspect nothing nefarious in regard to either BitcoinCard or NeftVodka, and deeply admire both concerns, along with you (Charlie), Erik and Roger.
That said, I am even more curious as to whom this Thomas Holzinger guy is, for now I've (re)found this...
http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2012/6/19/our-discovery-in-vienna-the-bitcoin-card.html
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Regardless of the device, we thoroughly enjoyed meeting Alex Squared and the rest of the European Bitcoiners who were there. It’s hard to quantify how fulfilling and exciting it is to meet up with people from all over the world who are as passionate as we are about this monetary revolution. And damn, some of these people are just brilliant, which doesn’t hurt. I know myself, Charlie, and Roger consider Alex and Alex wonderful new friends – they were kind, witty, inquisitive, and extremely generous (Russian Alex loaded us up with 24 bottles of his Russian vodka brand, Neft, which was a challenge to bring back through the airport). Personally, I consider them both strong allies and assets of the Bitcoin community.
Therefore, if I'm reading the above (and full linked post) correctly, two guys named Alex operate BitcoinCard.org, with one Alex (the Russian one) owns Neft Vodka.
For the life of me, I can't see how Thomas Holzinger's name can be attached to either entity with the exception that that's the name both companies are registered under.
~Bruno~
EDIT: http://www.complimenti-show.de/en/bar-audienz/140-neft-inkl-fotos.html
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Experience with the Bar Audienz with NEFT, moderated by the manager and cofounder Thomas Holzinger personally, how the formula of NEFT Vodka find the way to Austria, where their Russian vodka expertise can unite with the best Austrian grain and fresh local spring water.
Are you sure that Thomas Holzinger is really behind both businesses, and not just an owner/worker in a PR firm that both businesses hired? For instance maybe part of the services they offer is registering domains and hosting websites? Just wondering out loud...
Thomas Holzinger is the general manager of NEFT for Europe and a good friend of mine...he has nothing to do with the BitcoinCard as my understanding.
It's possible he has registered domain names, but it probably means he works with the same people, like I said similar business interests.
Sorry Bruno, everything I told you is transparent and truthful.
Oh, neither of those guys in the picture is Thomas, I've never seen those guys before.
Are you sure that Thomas Holzinger is really behind both businesses, and not just an owner/worker in a PR firm that both businesses hired? For instance maybe part of the services they offer is registering domains and hosting websites? Just wondering out loud...
Again, nothing nefarious, but a fuller understanding of who's behind Neft Vodka, and now BitcoinCard, is warranted.
http://www.amazon.de/Die-Online-Redaktion-Praxisbuch-Internetjournalismus-X-media-press/dp/3642007198
http://www.amazon.de/Im-Netz-Nachricht-Newsroom-Strategie-PR-Roman/dp/3642224881/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324293507&sr=8-1
http://www.mediaclub.at/
Martin Sturmer
Thomas Holzinger
Tel: +43 662 450627
E-mail: [email protected]
http://www.pr-agentur-blog.de/rezension-im-netz-der-nachricht-4341.html
There you have it! A couple of good-ole-PR-boys who, at least one of them, is behind NeftVodka and BitcoinCard.
For the life of me, I don't understand why both business concerns needed to be presented to this community in the matter in which they were presented.
Look what I found!
Yea, that's me or I'm behind that or there's more info coming.
Or the way this thread was started, with all due respect to evoorhees--seriously.
Until I have reason to believe otherwise, Charlie, Erik, Roger, et al., are great bitcoiners, but come on guys, let's be a little more up front. With the exception of the real trolls, we're all on the same team, albeit I'm in an orange uniform, but regardless, let's play ball.
Peace!
~Bruno~
http://www.amazon.de/Die-Online-Redaktion-Praxisbuch-Internetjournalismus-X-media-press/dp/3642007198
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The online editorial team: Practice Book for Internet journalism (X.media.press) [Hardcover]
Thomas Holzinger (Author) , Martin Sturmer (Author)
Thomas Holzinger (Author) , Martin Sturmer (Author)
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The content development of the Internet, keep up with the technological possibilities with hardly. That online editorial frequently be betrachet as "penal colony" for unpleasant people and the technophile self-realization of some staff are just two of the reasons why. Devote in this manual for multimedia media creation exceed the authors the boundaries of traditional media genres and irreverently freshness of professionalization of Internet editorial.
http://www.amazon.de/Im-Netz-Nachricht-Newsroom-Strategie-PR-Roman/dp/3642224881/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324293507&sr=8-1
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In the network news: the newsroom as a PR strategy novel [Hardcover]
Thomas Holzinger (Author) , Martin Sturmer (Author)
Thomas Holzinger (Author) , Martin Sturmer (Author)
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The two communications professionals draw on their novel is a genre picture of the current media landscape and also provide an example of how the "Newsroom" strategy in the corporate communications can be implemented. The focus is on the news stands as the oldest and most difficult part of the human mass communication: short, fast and significant. Modern communications department to the newsroom, the acts and unlimited multimedia and serves all audiences on all platforms - from the local newspaper to Twitter.
http://www.mediaclub.at/
Martin Sturmer
Thomas Holzinger
Tel: +43 662 450627
E-mail: [email protected]
http://www.pr-agentur-blog.de/rezension-im-netz-der-nachricht-4341.html
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Educate Entertaining - "The power of the message" is a refreshing work for those who are tired of having to acquire expertise from counselors and guides, represents the exciting PR novel aimed at social media newbies and those who place themselves like to deal with the matter Web 2.0. Holzinger and Sturmer skillfully manage the example of Shit Storms to illustrate the opportunities and risks posed by the communication in Web 2.0 with it. Still looking for last minute Christmas gift for a PRler or communications professionals, you should consider.
The book is for EUR 29.95 Free Shipping at www.amazon.de available in stationary or bookstore. "The power of the message," is published by Springer Verlag.
The book is for EUR 29.95 Free Shipping at www.amazon.de available in stationary or bookstore. "The power of the message," is published by Springer Verlag.
There you have it! A couple of good-ole-PR-boys who, at least one of them, is behind NeftVodka and BitcoinCard.
For the life of me, I don't understand why both business concerns needed to be presented to this community in the matter in which they were presented.
Look what I found!
Yea, that's me or I'm behind that or there's more info coming.
Or the way this thread was started, with all due respect to evoorhees--seriously.
Until I have reason to believe otherwise, Charlie, Erik, Roger, et al., are great bitcoiners, but come on guys, let's be a little more up front. With the exception of the real trolls, we're all on the same team, albeit I'm in an orange uniform, but regardless, let's play ball.
Peace!
~Bruno~
So here's what I'm requesting. Will the owner(s) of BitcoinCard/NeftVolka please come forward and lay out your cards?
You are overthinking it.
Basically, when we were all in Vienna working on BitcoinCard we were introduced to a few people who make NEFT Vodka and they fell in love with Bitcoin.
The same people working on the BitcoinCard are the ones who introduced us (I think they did some business in the past together) which gave us some credibility when pitching Bitcoin.
Anyways, one of the NEFT guys and I became good friends, he was just in NYC actually, and he has a Bitcoin boner!
Given my past in eCommerce and shipping logistics, I offered to help them set up distribution but they declined my help because they already have distribution in the US ready to go and I think they are just working on the importing and licenses now.
Is it possible there are higher up connections? Im sure its possible, but thats higher then my paygrade lol and I dont speak Russian nor German. I'm sure there are investors in NEFT that have business interests in other things, and the chain could reach BitcoinCard. I'm not sure.
Thats pretty much all I know right now, but I'm happy to relay any questions to them!
-Charlie
Fair enough, Charlie, and as I said, I suspect nothing nefarious. But for the record...
Erik Voorhees Bitcoin Interview on Free Talk Live at Porcfest 2012
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Erik Voorhees on Free Talk Live Links mentioned: www.bitinstant.com http www.bitcoincard.org
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Domain ID:D162408782-LROR
Domain Name:BITCOINCARD.ORG
Created On:31-May-2011 11:09:05 UTC
Last Updated On:01-Jun-2012 01:26:20 UTC
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Sponsoring Registrar:PSI-USA, Inc. dba Domain Robot (R68-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
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Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
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Tech Organization:World4You Internet Services GmbH
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Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
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Tech FAX Ext.:
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Name Server:NS1.WORLD4YOU.AT
Name Server:NS2.WORLD4YOU.AT
Domain Name:BITCOINCARD.ORG
Created On:31-May-2011 11:09:05 UTC
Last Updated On:01-Jun-2012 01:26:20 UTC
Expiration Date:31-May-2013 11:09:05 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:PSI-USA, Inc. dba Domain Robot (R68-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:ABM-11225957
Registrant Name:Thomas Holzinger
Registrant Organization:Thomas Holzinger
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Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
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Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:ABM-11225958
Admin Name:Thomas Holzinger
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Admin FAX Ext.:
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Tech ID:ABM-503925
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Name Server:NS1.WORLD4YOU.AT
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Domain: neftvodka.com
Client-IP: 68.178.211.36
Registrant:
name: Thomas Holzinger
organization: Gallinaz Business Management Consulting GmbH
street: Wichtelgasse 25/Top 7
postal code: 1160
city: Wien
country: Austria
Administrative Contact:
name: Thomas Holzinger
organization: Gallinaz Business Management Consulting GmbH
street: Wichtelgasse 25/Top 7
postal code: 1160
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country: Austria
email: [email protected]
phone: +436505952420
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name: Johannes Kuehrer
organization: World4You Internet Services GmbH
street: Hafenstrasse 47-51
postal code: 4020
city: Linz
country: Austria
email: [email protected]
phone: +4373293035
fax: +437329303510
name: Gerald Gruenberger
organization: World4You Internet Services GmbH
street: Hafenstrasse 47-51
postal code: 4020
city: Linz
country: Austria
email: [email protected]
phone: +4373293035
fax: +437329303510
Domain expires on 2013-03-30
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Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.world4you.at
ns2.world4you.at
>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:25:06 CET <<<
NOTE: THE WHOIS DATABASE IS A CONTACT DATABASE ONLY. LACK OF A DOMAINRECORD DOES NOT SIGNIFY DOMAIN AVAILABILITY.
Registrar: WORLD4YOU INTERNET SERVICES GMBH
Whois Server: whois.world4you.com
Creation Date: 30-MAR-2012
Updated Date: 30-MAR-2012
Expiration Date: 30-MAR-2013
Nameserver: NS1.WORLD4YOU.AT
Nameserver: NS2.WORLD4YOU.AT
Client-IP: 68.178.211.36
Registrant:
name: Thomas Holzinger
organization: Gallinaz Business Management Consulting GmbH
street: Wichtelgasse 25/Top 7
postal code: 1160
city: Wien
country: Austria
Administrative Contact:
name: Thomas Holzinger
organization: Gallinaz Business Management Consulting GmbH
street: Wichtelgasse 25/Top 7
postal code: 1160
city: Wien
country: Austria
email: [email protected]
phone: +436505952420
Technical Contacts:
name: Johannes Kuehrer
organization: World4You Internet Services GmbH
street: Hafenstrasse 47-51
postal code: 4020
city: Linz
country: Austria
email: [email protected]
phone: +4373293035
fax: +437329303510
name: Gerald Gruenberger
organization: World4You Internet Services GmbH
street: Hafenstrasse 47-51
postal code: 4020
city: Linz
country: Austria
email: [email protected]
phone: +4373293035
fax: +437329303510
Domain expires on 2013-03-30
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Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.world4you.at
ns2.world4you.at
>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:25:06 CET <<<
NOTE: THE WHOIS DATABASE IS A CONTACT DATABASE ONLY. LACK OF A DOMAINRECORD DOES NOT SIGNIFY DOMAIN AVAILABILITY.
Registrar: WORLD4YOU INTERNET SERVICES GMBH
Whois Server: whois.world4you.com
Creation Date: 30-MAR-2012
Updated Date: 30-MAR-2012
Expiration Date: 30-MAR-2013
Nameserver: NS1.WORLD4YOU.AT
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So here's what I'm requesting. Will the owner(s) of BitcoinCard/NeftVolka please come forward and lay out your cards?
You are overthinking it.
Basically, when we were all in Vienna working on BitcoinCard we were introduced to a few people who make NEFT Vodka and they fell in love with Bitcoin.
The same people working on the BitcoinCard are the ones who introduced us (I think they did some business in the past together) which gave us some credibility when pitching Bitcoin.
Anyways, one of the NEFT guys and I became good friends, he was just in NYC actually, and he has a Bitcoin boner!
Given my past in eCommerce and shipping logistics, I offered to help them set up distribution but they declined my help because they already have distribution in the US ready to go and I think they are just working on the importing and licenses now.
Is it possible there are higher up connections? Im sure its possible, but thats higher then my paygrade lol and I dont speak Russian nor German. I'm sure there are investors in NEFT that have business interests in other things, and the chain could reach BitcoinCard. I'm not sure.
Thats pretty much all I know right now, but I'm happy to relay any questions to them!
-Charlie
Am I right--THIS TIME (for once), Yankee?
~Bruno~
~Bruno~
Honestly, I don't know enough to comment...so I won't because I dont want MORE rumors starting because of me.
Here's the deal! I've found nothing nefarious about either entities, for I've no reason to dig for such, and only stumbled upon the information by happenstance, but make no mistake, both entities are connected, and am currently taken aback that said information is not disclosed. Unless I'm missing something, there should be nothing to hide, and it's not at all strange for two completely different business types to be operated by the same enterprise.
So here's what I'm requesting. Will the owner(s) of BitcoinCard/NeftVolka please come forward and lay out your cards?
Thank you, in advance.
~Bruno~
PS: And rumors shouldn't even be part of the equation unless, of course, I've also stumbled upon the September surprise, for it looks like that BitcoinCard(.org) looks promising.
A few Bitcoiners and I are meeting the guys behing BitcoinCard in Europe at the end of the month to talk about US Distribution.
Will keep you all updated!
Am I right--THIS TIME (for once), Yankee?
~Bruno~
~Bruno~
Honestly, I don't know enough to comment...so I won't because I dont want MORE rumors starting because of me.
Am I right--THIS TIME (for once), Yankee?
~Bruno~
~Bruno~
Make no mistake, I am implying something here. Keyword is Mycelium.
~Bruno~
Remind me to hire you when I need to find my long lost rich uncle.
How the hell do you figure this shit out lol
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