Topic: negative trust: why do people get it on bitcointalk.org (Read 896 times)

because many of them make a post that contains fraudulent or intentionally makes a post just to increase the number of their post and not very high quality.

People get tagged from starting this kind of threads.
This for example, is just a "one-questionnaire" which can be answered through the search function or by reading stickies.

So, better lock this topic now or else.

-That was a joke, but locking your answered threads is a good practice-

I wonder why most of us are too lazy to explore the stickies on the meta  

I hope you already had your answers however miraculously if you have not yet then jump on this topic
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657



Good luck!

Since banning of account is useless because everyone can just create new account at different IP address, I guess putting red mark on scammers is much better so that everyone can be notified about this account, specially legendary accounts.

Some are not scammer but  I think they've done things against the forum's rule and the mark will be there until they ask for forgiveness.

As I was viewing on THE PHARMACIST's old post I have seen this thread and your problem with him. And as I looked onto your profile, well, mate you have a serious violation there. That's why you have been given a Negative Trust. This is a forbidden rule of the Merit System, to exchange or even buy it from someone.
Even me I'm afraid of getting Negative Trust from the DTs that's why I think surely or even have proofs to determine on how will I explain my side.

There you go.  I didn't even think about how many other merits either one had earned, but it's true, and it's why I merited each of them.  I've given out a ton of merits--hell, I've given out all of what I was airdropped plus all the sMerits I earned, and only a few of them went to Jet Cash or TMAN.  They write damn good posts, and that's way more than can be said for everyone I suspect of merit abuse.  In fact, that's the reason I don't suspect members like Jet Cash, TMAN, and the like of trading merit because they don't have to.  Their posts are sufficiently interesting such that they do not have to buy it.

The low-ranked shitposters OTOH are precisely the ones who do.  They can get merits only if they buy them or trade with friends.  I just saw an account farmer's thread today, charging something like $18/merit for bought accounts and obviously he was using alt accounts to give those merits out.  I thought I was going to vomit.

Ok, you gave 21 of your sMerits in total to nlcars just because he is your friend. And he sent his sMerits to you just because you are friend of him. Is it not abuse of Merit system? Why you didn't gave any of your sMerit to other users? And who is kaltun who gave you 50 Merit in total?
I don't see how The Pharmacist abused Merit system. If he sent his sMerits to TMAN and Jet Cash and also received Merit from these users, it doesn't mean anything. Jet Cash and TMAN are among top merited users - it indicates that they are making great posts, so it's normal thing that they received Merit from same users numerous times. It can't be compared with your story when you just exchanged Merit with your friend.

You wanted proof? here you go, I posted it immediately right after I got negative trust from the pharmacist, but nobody cares:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.33010310

What I see is that this forum has turned into an elite club with pompous prick behaviour. All the high levels are doing the exact same thing with their merits but they block other people from advancing by sending them negative trust their way, no wonder lots of people, including even developers of coins, left this forum and more do so by the day.

Congratulations with your negative trust. I think it's deserved because exchanging merit between two account really looks like Merit absue.
So, you are saying that The Pharmacist abusing Merit system? Well, if you are making such kind of accusations, you need to provide some proofs.

because making news or information that is just not real, or issues only. In addition, there is also the spam in making a post. Lately, there is a merit to throw at each other because it got it from someone else.

It is because they might done some illegal or prohibited stuffs here in the Forum.
Here are some of my opinions why a certain Member is given a Negative Trust .

1. Scammed people once or so many times (If ever that someone has been reported and proved that he/she Scammed people here in the Forum, he will be automatically tagged with Negative Trust by our Moderators/DT Members.)
2. Spamming (As we can see, Spamming here in the Forum is strictly prohibited, if someone has been reported that he/she is spamming, the account will be automatically banned or will be given a first Warning. But if the account user keep posting spams he will be tagged with Negative Trust.)
3. Selling/Buying account ( Buying and Selling account is also violating our Forum's rules. With just offering that you want to buy account or sell account can cause your account to being tagged with Negative Trust. See for example here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.33124738 The OP is looking for someone who want to sell a Sr. Account and unfortunately a Jr. Member responded thats why both of them are given Negative Trust).
4. Destroying DT Member's image ( I believed that some members here used to destroy Moderators and other DT1's image that why they're being tagged with Negative Trust.)
5. For violating rules multiple times (This is obviously the first reason why some members are given Negative Trust. It is because they always violate rules over and over again.)

Well, I know I didn't listed all reasons. But I hope it helps you out. But I also believed that not because a member is tagged with Negative Trust doesn't mean that we will underestimate them, we should still respect them.

I got negative trust from this user but what he is doing is abusing the merrit system himself:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/the-sceptical-chymist-487418

Now I have a nagtive trust and do only have 22 merrits and the person who abuses the system himself gives me negative trust !!

Supposedly, negative trust is given when you do not cooperate into a transaction like not paying for the product or service or not delivering a product or service. However, it was lately being used if you encountered an argument and someone just din't like your way of of arguing. Sometimes, if an account just doesn't like you maybe because you argued about his or her opinion, he or she will give you negative trust. That's the bad practice for some. You may just be doing nothing wrong and still get a negative trust just because you explained your part or argument. So be kind and be careful on your posts.

If only it worked like that. I've seen people get negative trust for something as simple as having an alt account. Not scamming, not abusing campaigns, just having an alt.
Since trust system is not moderated I could give you a neg right here right now, just to prove a point.

Anyone can leave negative feedback on your trust page for any reasons they want, and no prior deal or contact needs to have happened for them to do that, in fact many people get negative trust from random users just because they called them out on something or they don't agree with their opinions. It doesn't mean that the trust is valid though, trust is there as an indicator and should be taken on case by case.

You can also tweak your trust list, and many people will have removed some of the default trust from their list.

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Can a user I didn't have any deal with or contacted before decide to give me negative trust ( in the name of abusing the trust system)

thank you for your response, i wouldn't want to fall victim of that. That was why i asked and for those who are also wondering why they have it on their profile.

Usually, because low-life people scam, or buy accounts to spam/scam. You don't get negative trust for nothing, and usually that involves dishonest behaviour.

There are plenty of people who are abusing this site. So, they should get negative trust.

Pretty Simple Question It's Either They are doing things that are unethical from this forum. Like scamming somebody and when proven guilty they were tagged so they could not scam other people. The other simple reason would be they were being abused by somebody whos in power(This happened a lot of times.) Tho in most cases its the first example