Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 112. (Read 661498 times)

Meanwhile, it seems bitcoin services are rapidly improving.

https://www.circle.com/ - Instant, Secure, Insured and Free.

+1,same

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Smell like sockpuppet accounts to me.

As long as it is easier than Nxt, i still can't get that shit running 

that made me lol hard

Actually, not necessarily.
Technologies like SIA and maidsafe offer options to make truly secure backups for private keys.

Imagine the client backing up the private key in a decentralized cloud and providing you with a password to access it.

This password would be the only way to get the key back and might be a way to minimize possible theft scenarios.

It would resemble a double system of local private key and brainwallet, where you are mostly using the local private key for convenience, but have the option to go for the brainwallet if you really fuck it up.

Thats a pretty good article. And it gets some important points across.
What I found most outstanding is the part of hiding information until it is needed. It is in some way a tutorial. And that is actually something all clients would need.

A process that guides you through its use step by step. Not offering you any other options than those currently necessary and not more than three. Better even two.

And yes, Steve was pretty good at doing things like that.

I guess one of the best ways to start out the whole thing, is to offer a slim client as the standard client. It's okay for NEM to have advanced features. It's not okay to offer all of them up front. New people should have the best experience using this coin as humanly possible. Maybe even having fun doing it.

If you loose your private-key you're screwed. That's just how it is with asymmetric cryptography. That's why you should always back it up (i.e. backing up your wallet)

Regarding the addresses - this is will certainly be handled in one way or another.

Glad to hear some people which will look into that matter are on board.

And yes, you're right. I don't use online banking. I'm slightly paranoid when it comes to this. Sadly, online banking is the only modus operandi we can provide at the moment. I really doubt this will change anytime soon.

Besides that there are also problems like losing the private key (is there one with NEM? ), typing in the wrong address and hard to read addresses.

May it be possible to think about all those things before NEMs code won't permit any change in those directions?

Are there solutions to those things? I heard at least the problem of addresses typed wrong should be solveable to some extend.

Let's celebrate that with an oldie but goodie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69fPof-ZTnU

yeah...REAL old (prob wasn't born) but I'm into it

Nice !!!    

400+page soon

Here is a good article with a case study speaking about the big difference simple design can make.

http://firstround.com/article/Simple-Design-is-What-You-Need-Not-What-You-Want-1

As patmast3r said, we don't need idiotic simplicity, we need intuitive(Apple like) simplicity.

A good test when creating things would be to ask: "How would Steve Jobs make this?"

Update: Seems the startup mentioned in the article above just raised $80 Million in a valuation of $800 Million. Not bad.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2014/05/14/disruptive-healthcare-start-up-oscar-raises-80-million-valuation-nears-1-billion/

This is awesome last time I checked it was like 10.000


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+1 WOW what a community for NEM! I'm very proud to be here

Money from bank accounts is stolen everyday. Bad people make a living with that. As soon as you use online banking you're entire security is the hands of your bank. If your bank has a bad ssl implementation or something like that your bank account will be empty soon. With mobile payment apps and stuff like that the attack vector just gets bigger and bigger. You can argue that you don't use online banking but then I can argue that I will only use paper wallets. 

Yes there is a designer in the team and also a front-end developer (actually multiple designer and UI-devs but only 1 each are afaik working on the client.).

I think we need to define here what advanced functionality is. Anything except payment ? If so then I can tell you that it will be very easy with our client allthough I can't go into specifics right now because I'm not sure it'll be in the alpha and I don't want to spoil shit.

Price Question:
Which user of a wider audience actually cares about advanced functionality?
Most of these Features are impressive, but useless for everyday use. It's a bit like our current monetary System. I use my bank account. I withdraw, deposit and move Money. Those are the functions I Need.
The monetary System offers the stock Exchange and Banks and inner works and whatnot in the Background, but I don't have easy Access to them, I don't Need to have and most important, I don't want to.

And actually, a bank account is a lot more secure than any crypto wallet or System.
When was Money from a bank account stolen the last time? Mind, I don't talk about a crisis or inherent Problems of the system, Devaluation, apocalyptic circumstances, Aliens or Zombies.
I'm talking about someone beeing able to invade my Computer and steal my stuff.

Mentioning that it is easy to avoid is not a valid Argument. It is easy for you and it is easy for me. It is not easy for a lot of other People. You have to know what you do. You have to Keep your Computer safe. I can do it, you can do it, my grandma can't. Neither my mom and my dad struggles as well. My uncle is completly incompetent.
But those are the People that might be interested to use NEM as what it primarily is meant to be. A currency.

So, once again back to start.
I'm wondering. Does the NEM Team have any People in there for human interfacing. UI design.
I'm sure NEM will be powerfull. I'm sure NEM will be beautifully coded. But what it boils down to at the end is: "is it trivial to use?"

So, is there a UI designer in the Team or is it once again a programmer circlejerk?

Maybe someone here remembers minecraft. It was beautiful in the beginning and moved in a wonderful direction. Then Notch (A designer with programming skills) left and handed the development over to programmers.
There are now 4 times as many People working on the Project as initially. And they achieve almost nothing.
Mind, the code is beautiful by now. It's wonderful to look at. But they spent years developing something in the Background that is utterly meaningless to the People who use the product. It has become a programmer circlejerk.

Secure as having a bank account ? I sure hope it's more secure than that.

The goal has always been to make the client as easy as possible. However people need to understand that with advanced functionality comes a certain kind of necessary complexity. As easy as possible doesn't always mean every idiot can use it without any problems because it's just not possible to make it THAT easy. Especially for the open alpha people should keep this in mind.
Also people are to lazy to figure things out. Look at this thread. People are too lazy to check a few pages back or simply check the first page. Instead they constatly ask what's new and where to get NEM. If those people run into minor problems they will be here moaning so I expect a lot of that no matter how perfect the client is. It's just what the internet has made people.

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