[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 118.

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Quote from: utopianfuture on May 13, 2014, 11:53:54 AM

Quote from: gifex on May 13, 2014, 11:28:26 AM

Quote from: punapeter on May 13, 2014, 11:13:17 AM

Perhaps "I belong to gifex" would do the trick.

Alright, ready. i have maked message "I belong to gifex". And i got one long signature text, what is this text for? i must sent this signature text to utopian or what?

You can put it here and I can verify it. It is an instructive exercise as well. May I ask why does it take you so long to do this? because the duplicate hash table has been up more than 2 months I think. It is worrying because if the pre-launch option has been enabled then the fraudster could cash out and I would not be able to put you back in.

Hi, signature text are: HNJhDEw/4+4kanq48ePtRKiOL4wprAAo0WnjaBo+l0iYntyOWRS3iptxGkbxDlT4ns3z+uBsmU6tqPZLEBoRyOo=

and "May I ask why does it take you so long to do this? because the duplicate hash table has been up more than 2 months I think."

i have sent you message about this scammer 2 months ago (PM on Bitcointalk) but you have not respont it. i very sorry for that, i have needed at once to post about this problem in this theard. i hope i will get my NEM stake.

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Quote from: utopianfuture on May 13, 2014, 12:00:17 PM

Quote from: hamiltino on May 13, 2014, 11:27:08 AM

The one thing holding all crypto-currencies back is volatility and price stabality.

If Nem can implement a decentralized bank similar to what bitshares is doing.

Its game, set and match.

I am skeptical about bitshare economic model. I don't think the way they peg bitusd arbitrarily to $ could work in practice. Lending business is pretty difficult to do with bitcoin because of its deflation nature so i am interested so see if anyone can come up with a viable model.

Maybe a NEM stabilization fund would do the trick for volatility.

As for Bitcoin lending, here is a startup trying to do just that. https://btcjam.com/

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Quote from: utopianfuture on May 13, 2014, 12:00:17 PM

Quote from: hamiltino on May 13, 2014, 11:27:08 AM

The one thing holding all crypto-currencies back is volatility and price stabality.

If Nem can implement a decentralized bank similar to what bitshares is doing.

Its game, set and match.

I am skeptical about bitshare economic model. I don't think the way they peg bitusd arbitrarily to $ could work in practice. Lending business is pretty difficult to do with bitcoin because of its deflation nature so i am interested so see if anyone can come up with a viable model.

well it has worked in the past, i don't see any reason why it couldn't work in a decentralized manner.

Lets say you have 100 NEM, you put it in the bank, bank gives you 100 BANKNEMS, NEM value drops from $1 too $0.50, you withdraw your nems, you end up with 200NEM. BANKNEMS are what you would use for day to day transactions as there is no volatility.

This way you have the option too:
1. Hold nem, in order to speculate on the price and make money
2. hold banknems for a safe and stable currency

This model fails when a bank run occurs. There are ways to mitigate this, such as a portion of the transaction fees and/or mined nem go towards the nem bank.

Another option is to have an autonomous system to buy and sell nem (increase and decrease the supply of nem) in order to stabalize the price. A better option but much more difficult to pull off, you would also need a significant amount of funds.

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Quote from: hamiltino on May 13, 2014, 11:27:08 AM

The one thing holding all crypto-currencies back is volatility and price stabality.

If Nem can implement a decentralized bank similar to what bitshares is doing.

Its game, set and match.

I am skeptical about bitshare economic model. I don't think the way they peg bitusd arbitrarily to $ could work in practice. Lending business is pretty difficult to do with bitcoin because of its deflation nature so i am interested so see if anyone can come up with a viable model.

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Quote from: gifex on May 13, 2014, 11:28:26 AM

Quote from: punapeter on May 13, 2014, 11:13:17 AM

Perhaps "I belong to gifex" would do the trick.

Alright, ready. i have maked message "I belong to gifex". And i got one long signature text, what is this text for? i must sent this signature text to utopian or what?

You can put it here and I can verify it. It is an instructive exercise as well. May I ask why does it take you so long to do this? because the duplicate hash table has been up more than 2 months I think. It is worrying because if the pre-launch option has been enabled then the fraudster could cash out and I would not be able to put you back in.

gifex

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Quote from: punapeter on May 13, 2014, 11:13:17 AM

Perhaps "I belong to gifex" would do the trick.

Alright, ready. i have maked message "I belong to gifex". And i got one long signature text, what is this text for? i must sent this signature text to utopian or what?

hamiltino

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The one thing holding all crypto-currencies back is volatility and price stabality.

If Nem can implement a decentralized bank similar to what bitshares is doing.

Its game, set and match.

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Perhaps "I belong to gifex" would do the trick.

gifex

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 11:01:09 AM

Quote from: gifex on May 13, 2014, 10:57:14 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 10:50:17 AM

Quote from: David Latapie on May 13, 2014, 10:44:59 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 10:30:25 AM

Sign any message with your wallet to prove it. easy

How do you do this?

what client do you have, it is different for each one.

QT just go to menu and click sign message

Hi dear, i using Blockchain.info online wallet. How i can sign any messages from blockchain.info online wallet?

go to receive coins then click on the link on the dropdown on the right side of the address you want to sign the address with.

Alright, i have found it. And now if i click "Sign Message" i have one message to type. Now is my question: What text i must to type in this message field?

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Quote from: gifex on May 13, 2014, 10:57:14 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 10:50:17 AM

Quote from: David Latapie on May 13, 2014, 10:44:59 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 10:30:25 AM

Sign any message with your wallet to prove it. easy

How do you do this?

what client do you have, it is different for each one.

QT just go to menu and click sign message

Hi dear, i using Blockchain.info online wallet. How i can sign any messages from blockchain.info online wallet?

go to receive coins then click on the link on the dropdown on the right side of the address you want to sign the address with.

gifex

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 10:50:17 AM

Quote from: David Latapie on May 13, 2014, 10:44:59 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 10:30:25 AM

Sign any message with your wallet to prove it. easy

How do you do this?

what client do you have, it is different for each one.

QT just go to menu and click sign message

Hi dear, i using Blockchain.info online wallet. How i can sign any messages from blockchain.info online wallet?

TwinWinNerD

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Quote from: David Latapie on May 13, 2014, 10:44:59 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 10:30:25 AM

Sign any message with your wallet to prove it. easy

How do you do this?

what client do you have, it is different for each one.

QT just go to menu and click sign message

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on May 13, 2014, 10:30:25 AM

Sign any message with your wallet to prove it. easy

How do you do this?

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Quote from: gifex on May 13, 2014, 10:25:40 AM

Hello utopian, i have just see i am on this list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdFFvQ0pLRmNsbWM5ekNxY3lmcHdWa1E&richtext=true#gid=0

PATANY e50ed66fae8f5fa6260d06bfad7500411aa52e326864d9d632aae8ee2f9ba2eb 1 duplicated hash https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4806043#msg4806043

gifex e50ed66fae8f5fa6260d06bfad7500411aa52e326864d9d632aae8ee2f9ba2eb 1 duplicated hash https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4806668

and i am not on the final stakeholderlist , but scammer PATANY are on the list

here is post from my payment for reserving my stake https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4806668
but i am not duplicate hases, this is my wallet 1HspBDAi3xnQb8P4ZrfRupzZr95n4s6PpK i cann conrifm you this (if need i can make any transaction to your wallet from this my wallet adress for confirm)
i have maked my payment and i am going away walk the dog and after when i am back home i have posted in theard about my payment, and this scammer PATANY have saw on blockchain.info what the transactioin are maked but nobody postet about this.

please understand me, 1HspBDAi3xnQb8P4ZrfRupzZr95n4s6PpK is my wallet and i can confirm this

Sign any message with your wallet to prove it. easy

gifex

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Hello utopian, i have just see i am on this list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdFFvQ0pLRmNsbWM5ekNxY3lmcHdWa1E&richtext=true#gid=0

PATANY e50ed66fae8f5fa6260d06bfad7500411aa52e326864d9d632aae8ee2f9ba2eb 1 duplicated hash https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4806043

gifex e50ed66fae8f5fa6260d06bfad7500411aa52e326864d9d632aae8ee2f9ba2eb 1 duplicated hash https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4806668

and i am not on the final stakeholderlist , but scammer PATANY are on the list

here is post from my payment for reserving my stake https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4806668
but i am not duplicate hases, this is my wallet 1HspBDAi3xnQb8P4ZrfRupzZr95n4s6PpK i cann conrifm you this (if need i can make any transaction to your wallet from this my wallet adress for confirm)
i have maked my payment and i am going away walk the dog and after when i am back home i have posted in theard about my payment, and this scammer PATANY have saw on blockchain.info what the transactioin are maked but nobody postet about this.

please understand me, 1HspBDAi3xnQb8P4ZrfRupzZr95n4s6PpK is my wallet and i can confirm this

TwinWinNerD

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We should use soviet bear. He likes a communistic distribution.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/soviet-bear

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Any update? Any news?
I hope everything goes well with NEM.

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Quote from: GHz1 on May 13, 2014, 08:56:15 AM

Quote from: patmast3r on May 13, 2014, 08:46:35 AM

Quote from: ElitistCA on May 13, 2014, 08:39:57 AM

LOL i like the idea, but I heard some really crazy lyrics from Black sheep.

"Yo motherfucker..."

Cheesy

but if KIA`s PR dont mind being connected with it... Cheesy

Those are easily the most retarded lyrics ever.

Those ARE really crazy lyrics. I only heard of their one hit single, not that other stuff.

yeah. But to be fair to Black sheep, this song was meant as parody on gangsta rap music. Problem is that general public wont understand it, and I feel like if NEM will be popular, there will be strong opposition to it and will use anything to damage NEMs image.

talking about opposition. Have you thought how frightning "New economy Movement" may sound to people trying to conserve current state and economical trend? In my country mainstream media are agressivly pro capitalistic (in neocon way) and for them just talking about "new economic model" is like heresy. Pretty sure they will call us neo-communists. Just think about it.

A: We call ourselves "new economy movement"
B: our leader called himself "Utopianfuture"
C: our trademark is "egalitarian" distribution

I will be reading about Stalin and millions victims of Gulag, when NEM will go mainstream.

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