Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 179. (Read 661498 times)
April 22, 2014, 06:28:16 AM
oh i am so excited on NEM!!! Can't wait for it to be released!
April 22, 2014, 06:26:24 AM
We have to delete: "Descendant of Nxt" in op. I theank that´s the reason most people think nem is based on nxt.
April 22, 2014, 06:21:46 AM
I have 2 news for u - a good and a bad one. I was googling for Nxt and...
Good - I found references to NEM among the links.
Bad - They say that NEM is based on Nxt codebase.
If u have marketing team u should spread the word that NEM is not based on Nxt code, or u'll have a lot of PR problems in the future...
Good - I found references to NEM among the links.
Bad - They say that NEM is based on Nxt codebase.
If u have marketing team u should spread the word that NEM is not based on Nxt code, or u'll have a lot of PR problems in the future...
NEM Swarm Scouts must be awaken !
Too bad, I dont see any marketing moves at all. Only stakeholders in this threat saying "Im so happy about NEM", thats the whole marketing right now.
By the way, how many members has SWARM team now?
NEM should present it clearly in the 1st page that it is not based on Nxt
like here is written http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1w6szr/nem_new_second_gen_crypto_based_on_nxt/
April 22, 2014, 06:20:49 AM
For me, I think it will be great if there are two passwords. One for foraging ... and the other one to access the money in the account.
+ that's a good idea
April 22, 2014, 06:10:43 AM
could somebody please explain how do you earn additional coins? how does this foraging process work? what should I do to get % from the fees?
Foraging works just like forging in NXT only nodes are picked via a different algorithm. NXT uses POS to select the next forger where as NEM uses POI (details to follow in the whitepaper).
To be part of that "game" you need to run a node which basically means you'll have to leave the client (a client that includes the server) open 24/7 on your computer.
April 22, 2014, 05:51:50 AM
I have 2 news for u - a good and a bad one. I was googling for Nxt and...
Good - I found references to NEM among the links.
Bad - They say that NEM is based on Nxt codebase.
If u have marketing team u should spread the word that NEM is not based on Nxt code, or u'll have a lot of PR problems in the future...
Good - I found references to NEM among the links.
Bad - They say that NEM is based on Nxt codebase.
If u have marketing team u should spread the word that NEM is not based on Nxt code, or u'll have a lot of PR problems in the future...
NEM Swarm Scouts must be awaken !
Too bad, I dont see any marketing moves at all. Only stakeholders in this threat saying "Im so happy about NEM", thats the whole marketing right now.
By the way, how many members has SWARM team now?
April 22, 2014, 05:41:54 AM
could somebody please explain how do you earn additional coins? how does this foraging process work? what should I do to get % from the fees?
April 22, 2014, 05:40:13 AM
I have 2 news for u - a good and a bad one. I was googling for Nxt and...
Good - I found references to NEM among the links.
Bad - They say that NEM is based on Nxt codebase.
If u have marketing team u should spread the word that NEM is not based on Nxt code, or u'll have a lot of PR problems in the future...
Good - I found references to NEM among the links.
Bad - They say that NEM is based on Nxt codebase.
If u have marketing team u should spread the word that NEM is not based on Nxt code, or u'll have a lot of PR problems in the future...
NEM Swarm Scouts must be awaken !
April 22, 2014, 05:28:41 AM
I have 2 news for u - a good and a bad one. I was googling for Nxt and...
Good - I found references to NEM among the links.
Bad - They say that NEM is based on Nxt codebase.
If u have marketing team u should spread the word that NEM is not based on Nxt code, or u'll have a lot of PR problems in the future...
Good - I found references to NEM among the links.
Bad - They say that NEM is based on Nxt codebase.
If u have marketing team u should spread the word that NEM is not based on Nxt code, or u'll have a lot of PR problems in the future...
April 22, 2014, 05:13:35 AM
Hello, Utopianfuture!
I don't get it, why I am not in the stakeholder list? I am on the waiting list since march 8!
And you're not answering my PM.
I don't get it, why I am not in the stakeholder list? I am on the waiting list since march 8!
And you're not answering my PM.
No one on the waiting list is going to be in any stakeholder's list at the moment. The waiting list is for a shot of being able to get a stake from any open slots created by refunded stakes. Sock puppet stakes. It's not a guarantee, since there are hundreds of people on the waiting list, and the goal is to pick those who can contribute to Nem the most.
And about Utopianfuture, he doesn't answer stake related question over PM, he rather it be done in public, like on this thread or the complaint thread. I guess he could have PM you to tell you to post your question here. I don't know, just that everything is supposed to be public and open.
April 22, 2014, 05:10:12 AM
There would be the possibility to hire this banner on the top, when the time comes
------> http://altcoinspekulant.wordpress.com/
It's one of the biggest german blogs writing about altcoins and would be a great advertisement for just 0.1BTC/10 days
Also he would hide his lettering in the jpg. and write an article about NEM for another 0.1BTC.
May we could even bargain, so it would be definitely worth it!
I'm German and would love to arrange this, if the community agrees.
↓
Werbung beim Altcoinspekulant
April 8, 2014UncategorizedMarketing, Werbefläche, Werbung
Sie möchten Werbung für Ihr neues Kryptoprojekt machen? Der Altcoinspekulant stellt Ihnen eine große und interessante Werbefläche zur Verfügung. Den großen Banner (aktuell mit Litecoin-Münzen) können Sie bereits ab 0.1 BTC mieten (10 Tage für 0.1 BTC). Dazu benötige ich ein Bild in JPG-Format mit einer Auflösung von 1600×230 Pixeln. Ich würde meinen Schriftzug komplett ausblenden, so dass der Banner optisch voll zur Geltung kommt. Eine Verlinkung von Inhalten ist über den Banner nicht möglich, es handelt sich um eine rein optische Anzeige.
Zusätzliche Kosten für einen frei von Ihnen gestalteten Textbeitrag, den ich zeitgleich veröffentlichen würde: 0.1 BTC.
Nutzen Sie die Chance Ihr Kryptoprojekt bei einem der grössten deutschsprachigen Krypto-Blogs bekannter zu machen. Bei Interesse bitte ich Sie um eine Mail an [email protected]
------> http://altcoinspekulant.wordpress.com/
It's one of the biggest german blogs writing about altcoins and would be a great advertisement for just 0.1BTC/10 days
Also he would hide his lettering in the jpg. and write an article about NEM for another 0.1BTC.
May we could even bargain, so it would be definitely worth it!
I'm German and would love to arrange this, if the community agrees.
↓
Werbung beim Altcoinspekulant
April 8, 2014UncategorizedMarketing, Werbefläche, Werbung
Sie möchten Werbung für Ihr neues Kryptoprojekt machen? Der Altcoinspekulant stellt Ihnen eine große und interessante Werbefläche zur Verfügung. Den großen Banner (aktuell mit Litecoin-Münzen) können Sie bereits ab 0.1 BTC mieten (10 Tage für 0.1 BTC). Dazu benötige ich ein Bild in JPG-Format mit einer Auflösung von 1600×230 Pixeln. Ich würde meinen Schriftzug komplett ausblenden, so dass der Banner optisch voll zur Geltung kommt. Eine Verlinkung von Inhalten ist über den Banner nicht möglich, es handelt sich um eine rein optische Anzeige.
Zusätzliche Kosten für einen frei von Ihnen gestalteten Textbeitrag, den ich zeitgleich veröffentlichen würde: 0.1 BTC.
Nutzen Sie die Chance Ihr Kryptoprojekt bei einem der grössten deutschsprachigen Krypto-Blogs bekannter zu machen. Bei Interesse bitte ich Sie um eine Mail an [email protected]
We should also make "UtopianFuture has a posse" stickers and put them around.
From www.altcoinspekulant.de
"Disclaimer – Hinweis auf Interessenskonflikt: Der Autor hat selbst NEM gezeichnet"
means:
The autor is stakeholder. And you really want to give him 0.2+ BTC for advertisement?
April 22, 2014, 04:48:08 AM
Hello, Utopianfuture!
I don't get it, why I am not in the stakeholder list? I am on the waiting list since march 8!
And you're not answering my PM.
I don't get it, why I am not in the stakeholder list? I am on the waiting list since march 8!
And you're not answering my PM.
April 22, 2014, 04:41:37 AM
-snip-
No, what I said was 50+char is overkill. Your used bitcoin address (and NEM that uses ECDSA cryptography) is only 128 bits strong. A random 22 char password is stronger than that.
No, what I said was 50+char is overkill. Your used bitcoin address (and NEM that uses ECDSA cryptography) is only 128 bits strong. A random 22 char password is stronger than that.
OK, sry misunderstanding
April 22, 2014, 04:38:34 AM
What? If someone has full access to BTT server, they can probably access the messages, password length wouldn't do anything, as I doubt the text on the server is encrypted by user's password.
And that "50+ char" password things is total nonsense. People just make up these numbers out of thin air. elliptic curve cryptography (used by bitcoin and nxt and all other cryptos) can be cracked in 128-bits operations -- that is equal to about 22 char random password.
WHAT?
Pliiz use consistent vocabulary, not char, bit, word ... oh, you edited the post
What means "password length wouldn't do anything, as...the text...is encrypted by...password" ?
u r saying 50 chars long password is not safe.
How do you validate that?
The hacker must still try all the possible passwords with length 8, 9, 10, 11, ......... 50, 51, ....
How long does it take to try those for ONE account ?
No, what I said was 50+char is overkill. Your used bitcoin address (and NEM that uses ECDSA cryptography) is only 128 bits strong. A random 22 char password is stronger than that.
April 22, 2014, 04:37:28 AM
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Its so awesome to see this project evolve.
Just a quick shout out for everybody on the stakeholders list to get a strong password for your BTT account!
Just a quick shout out for everybody on the stakeholders list to get a strong password for your BTT account!
What is strong? Are 15 random alpha-num characters enough? How many characters do you recommend?
Mine is 65 ;DI think in some nxt tutorial they reccommend 50+
You can't compare NXT to BTT. You'd have to brute BTT over the internet which would take forever with the 45 sec limit.
However if BTT get's hacked and they are bruting locally then the 50+ will help you but I hope that people would be informed and required to reset their pwd rather quickly.
What? If someone has full access to BTT server, they can probably access the messages, password length wouldn't do anything, as I doubt the text on the server is encrypted by user's password.
And that "50+ char" password things is total nonsense. People just make up these numbers out of thin air. elliptic curve cryptography (used by bitcoin and nxt and all other cryptos) can be cracked in 128-bits operations -- that is equal to about 22 char random password.
maybe every stakeholder should get pgp and post their public signature. The distribution message could be encrypted by UF. This way even if the server would be hacked confidential messages would still be encrypted.
But getting 3000+ people to post their pgp signature sounds like a hell of alot of work.
April 22, 2014, 04:35:51 AM
For me, I think it will be great if there are two passwords. One for foraging ... and the other one to access the money in the account.
April 22, 2014, 04:17:38 AM
What? If someone has full access to BTT server, they can probably access the messages, password length wouldn't do anything, as I doubt the text on the server is encrypted by user's password.
And that "50+ char" password things is total nonsense. People just make up these numbers out of thin air. elliptic curve cryptography (used by bitcoin and nxt and all other cryptos) can be cracked in 128-bits operations -- that is equal to about 22 char random password.
WHAT?
Pliiz use consistent vocabulary, not char, bit, word ... oh, you edited the post
What means "password length wouldn't do anything, as...the text...is encrypted by...password" ?
u r saying 50 chars long password is not safe.
How do you validate that?
The hacker must still try all the possible passwords with length 8, 9, 10, 11, ......... 50, 51, ....
How long does it take to try those for ONE account ?
April 22, 2014, 04:03:25 AM
bigger font
Its so awesome to see this project evolve.
Just a quick shout out for everybody on the stakeholders list to get a strong password for your BTT account!
Just a quick shout out for everybody on the stakeholders list to get a strong password for your BTT account!
What is strong? Are 15 random alpha-num characters enough? How many characters do you recommend?
Mine is 65 ;DI think in some nxt tutorial they reccommend 50+
You can't compare NXT to BTT. You'd have to brute BTT over the internet which would take forever with the 45 sec limit.
However if BTT get's hacked and they are bruting locally then the 50+ will help you but I hope that people would be informed and required to reset their pwd rather quickly.
What? If someone has full access to BTT server, they can probably access the messages, password length wouldn't do anything, as I doubt the text on the server is encrypted by user's password.
And that "50+ char" password things is total nonsense. People just make up these numbers out of thin air. elliptic curve cryptography (used by bitcoin and nxt and all other cryptos) can be cracked in 128-bits operations -- that is equal to about 22 char random password.
April 22, 2014, 03:14:31 AM
bigger font
Its so awesome to see this project evolve.
Just a quick shout out for everybody on the stakeholders list to get a strong password for your BTT account!
Just a quick shout out for everybody on the stakeholders list to get a strong password for your BTT account!
What is strong? Are 15 random alpha-num characters enough? How many characters do you recommend?
Mine is 65 ;DI think in some nxt tutorial they reccommend 50+
You can't compare NXT to BTT. You'd have to brute BTT over the internet which would take forever with the 45 sec limit.
However if BTT get's hacked and they are bruting locally then the 50+ will help you but I hope that people would be informed and required to reset their pwd rather quickly.
April 22, 2014, 02:53:11 AM
bigger font
Its so awesome to see this project evolve.
Just a quick shout out for everybody on the stakeholders list to get a strong password for your BTT account!
Just a quick shout out for everybody on the stakeholders list to get a strong password for your BTT account!
What is strong? Are 15 random alpha-num characters enough? How many characters do you recommend?
Mine is 65 ;DI think in some nxt tutorial they reccommend 50+
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