[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 265.

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Quote from: ShawnLeary on March 27, 2014, 07:15:05 AM

Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 07:10:01 AM

Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 07:04:29 AM

You are either a visionary or could have just escaped from a mental asylum Grin

. I cant decide lol.

To people worried about this guy buying 10% of NEM, if NEM shows potential its inevitable people will hoard it. How can we stop him from buying 10% after launch or even now if people really want to sell Huh

You could advice people to hold something which is showing potential, but some people will just cashout anyway Sad

. I think in a way its good, it weeds out the profiteers and places the coin in the hands of people who believe in it. just a tought.

Thank you ashapasa! You have an open mind, and you appreciate how markets work.

I am not proposing anything unfair or unethical.

Maybe my ideas will make make NEM more valuable.

0.0003% is a hammer

6-10% is a factory

Serious question, is there a process to sell someone's stake/place holder on the list before release? I read back and hadn't seen any comments regarding it from the powers that be.

Shady people.......Shady , Shady ........shady......

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Quote from: ShawnLeary on March 27, 2014, 07:15:05 AM

Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 07:10:01 AM

Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 07:04:29 AM

You are either a visionary or could have just escaped from a mental asylum Grin

. I cant decide lol.

To people worried about this guy buying 10% of NEM, if NEM shows potential its inevitable people will hoard it. How can we stop him from buying 10% after launch or even now if people really want to sell Huh

You could advice people to hold something which is showing potential, but some people will just cashout anyway Sad

. I think in a way its good, it weeds out the profiteers and places the coin in the hands of people who believe in it. just a tought.

Thank you ashapasa! You have an open mind, and you appreciate how markets work.

I am not proposing anything unfair or unethical.

Maybe my ideas will make make NEM more valuable.

0.0003% is a hammer

6-10% is a factory

Serious question, is there a process to sell someone's stake/place holder on the list before release? I read back and hadn't seen any comments regarding it from the powers that be.

I think UP at some point said that we might have something like a market for that in some shape or form but I don't think there's any solid plan regarding that.

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Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 07:10:01 AM

Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 07:04:29 AM

You are either a visionary or could have just escaped from a mental asylum Grin

. I cant decide lol.

To people worried about this guy buying 10% of NEM, if NEM shows potential its inevitable people will hoard it. How can we stop him from buying 10% after launch or even now if people really want to sell Huh

You could advice people to hold something which is showing potential, but some people will just cashout anyway Sad

. I think in a way its good, it weeds out the profiteers and places the coin in the hands of people who believe in it. just a tought.

Thank you ashapasa! You have an open mind, and you appreciate how markets work.

I am not proposing anything unfair or unethical.

Maybe my ideas will make make NEM more valuable.

0.0003% is a hammer

6-10% is a factory

Serious question, is there a process to sell someone's stake/place holder on the list before release? I read back and hadn't seen any comments regarding it from the powers that be.

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Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 07:04:29 AM

You are either a visionary or could have just escaped from a mental asylum Grin

. I cant decide lol.

To people worried about this guy buying 10% of NEM, if NEM shows potential its inevitable people will hoard it. How can we stop him from buying 10% after launch or even now if people really want to sell Huh

You could advice people to hold something which is showing potential, but some people will just cashout anyway Sad

. I think in a way its good, it weeds out the profiteers and places the coin in the hands of people who believe in it. just a tought.

Thank you ashapasa! You have an open mind, and you appreciate how markets work.

I am not proposing anything unfair or unethical.

Maybe my ideas will make make NEM more valuable.

0.0003% is a hammer

6-10% is a factory

cupper5

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Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 07:04:29 AM

You are either a visionary or could have just escaped from a mental asylum Grin

. I cant decide lol.

To people worried about this guy buying 10% of NEM, if NEM shows potential its inevitable people will hoard it. How can we stop him from buying 10% after launch or even now if people really want to sell Huh

You could advice people to hold something which is showing potential, but some people will just cashout anyway Sad

. I think in a way its good, it weeds out the profiteers and places the coin in the hands of people who believe in it. just a tought.

He's shady, do you think people will really risk their NEM with this shady character? Don't think so.

ashapasa

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You are either a visionary or could have just escaped from a mental asylum Grin

. I cant decide lol.

To people worried about this guy buying 10% of NEM, if NEM shows potential its inevitable people will hoard it. How can we stop him from buying 10% after launch or even now if people really want to sell Huh

You could advice people to hold something which is showing potential, but some people will just cashout anyway Sad

. I think in a way its good, it weeds out the profiteers and places the coin in the hands of people who believe in it. just a tought.

In a way all these sockpockets and stakebuyers are a good distraction while we wait for NEM launch. It keeps the thread fresh and in peoples eyes.

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Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 06:59:44 AM

Quote from: Simakki on March 27, 2014, 06:57:12 AM

Fairness and equality?

Are u mad, cos your shady little plan isnt goin like you thought? I mean, with this kind of coin you thought that it will be good idea to put such a scheme and openly brag about some of views, which of course would bring resistance against you. That doesnt sound well-planned or anyway constructive.

Ultimately the stakeholders decide collectively. Not you. Not me. So it is good to hear your voice, and mine!

Has the final stakeholder list been done?

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Quote from: Simakki on March 27, 2014, 06:57:12 AM

Fairness and equality?

Are u mad, cos your shady little plan isnt goin like you thought? I mean, with this kind of coin you thought that it will be good idea to put such a scheme and openly brag about some of views, which of course would bring resistance against you. That doesnt sound well-planned or anyway constructive.

Ultimately the stakeholders decide collectively. Not you. Not me. So it is good to hear your voice, and mine!

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Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 06:49:18 AM

Quote from: Simakki on March 27, 2014, 06:46:46 AM

I think that we can move this utopiannow guy to another thread or just complete ignore him. I see that effort to gain decent minority of NEM shares against the principles of this coin. And i dont like the way he used similary nickname with Original UP, that could be misleading.

At this point of development i cant see any real gains to sell stakes to someone, who maybe have bad intentions. I tried to ask which are his real calculations about NEMs valuation and he came back with answer 10% of nxt. I mean if thats anyway true, why on earth that same guy wanna buy 400 shares.

And as for puplic this thread should focus on news, suggestions about NEM future and bright ideas. Community base is Huge so these guys can put up another thread and continue their debat here. NEM is supposed be a whole new cryptocurrency so i would love to read about current process, not that kind of bullshit what utopiannow is spamming everyday.

No Envy Movement

Fairness and equality?

Are u mad, cos your shady little plan isnt goin like you thought? I mean, with this kind of coin you thought that it would be good idea to put such a scheme and openly brag about taking over 400 stakes, which of course would bring resistance against you. That doesnt sound well-planned or anyway constructive.

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Quote from: Simakki on March 27, 2014, 06:46:46 AM

I think that we can move this utopiannow guy to another thread or just complete ignore him. I see that effort to gain decent minority of NEM shares against the principles of this coin. And i dont like the way he used similary nickname with Original UP, that could be misleading.

At this point of development i cant see any real gains to sell stakes to someone, who maybe have bad intentions. I tried to ask which are his real calculations about NEMs valuation and he came back with answer 10% of nxt. I mean if thats anyway true, why on earth that same guy wanna buy 400 shares.

And as for puplic this thread should focus on news, suggestions about NEM future and bright ideas. Community base is Huge so these guys can put up another thread and continue their debat here. NEM is supposed be a whole new cryptocurrency so i would love to read about current process, not that kind of bullshit what utopiannow is spamming everyday.

No Envy Movement

edit: my use of this name 'UtopianNow' was not intended to cause offence or deceive anyone, rather, it was an attempt at an amusing homage to utopianfuture

Homage (/ˈhɒmɨdʒ/ or /ˈɒmɨdʒ/) is a show or demonstration of respect or dedication to someone or something, sometimes by simple declaration but often by some more oblique reference, or poems of gratitude
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage

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I think that we can move this utopiannow guy to another thread or just complete ignore him. I see his effort to gain decent minority of NEM shares are against the principles of this coin. And i dont like the way he use similar nickname with Original UP, that could be misleading.

At this point of development i cant see any real gains to sell stakes to someone, who maybe have bad intentions. I tried to ask which are his real calculations about NEMs valuation and he came back with answer 10% of nxt. I mean if thats anyway true, why on earth that same guy wanna buy 400 shares.

And as for huge puplic this thread should focus on news, suggestions about NEM future and bright ideas. Community base is Huge so these guys can put up another thread and continue their debat there. NEM is supposed be a whole new cryptocurrency so i would love to read about current process, not that kind of bullshit what utopiannow is spamming everyday.

UtopianNow

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Quote from: patmast3r on March 27, 2014, 06:18:47 AM

May I ask what your "business idea" is ?

I am still developing my ideas, so it would be unwise to try and describe my embryonic concepts now and risk being misinterpreted.

I would say that to me POS coins on a crypto 2 platform like NXT & NEM resemble virtual real estate, but unlike physical real estate, POS 'real estate' on a crypto 2 network can move around.

For some ideas you need a lot of 'real estate'. A block of flats, a shopping mall, a hotel, a fun park, a casino etc

Imagine if virtual real estate could relocate to anywhere on the network at zero cost in an instant.

6-10% of a POS coin is enough 'real estate' to create many 'things' that can't be created with 0.0003%

I know I have not explained anything, but it is some thoughts.

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Quote from: bitimize on March 26, 2014, 06:39:08 PM

Quote from: patmast3r on March 26, 2014, 03:00:58 PM

I thought Mastercoin already has AE going ?

Completely anecdotal (this is the internet, after all), but a colleague of mine met the mastercoin guys recently in Berlin and said they have all but officially thrown in the towel.

Again, hearsay... but this leaves a big opportunity for players like Nxt, etherium, NEM etc.

What means : they have all ?
but officially thrown in the towel ?

Is it same as in the boxing the coach throws the towel into the ring?

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Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 06:25:08 AM

Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 06:19:04 AM

Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 05:22:57 AM

You should contact those people who claim to have 50-90 stakes Cheesy

. My suggestion to you is wait till its actually allowed to sell your stakes. I would not mind buying a couple more myself.

.

It is my hope that the people claiming to have 50-90 stakes will PM me.

Keep 10 NEM.

Sell 40-80 NEM stakes to me.

A good deal!

They could not lose!

10% is 400 stakes Shocked

, thats a lot of NEM. You want to open a NEM bank or something? please share your idea, if its good people might want to invest in that rather than sell you thier NEM directly. Hope its not a quick pump and dump scheme Wink

my curiosity always gets the better of me lol

I think If someone would have 10% of total NEM supply this will give him power to
continuously manipulate the prices on exchanges and accumulate more NEMs.

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Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 06:19:04 AM

Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 05:22:57 AM

You should contact those people who claim to have 50-90 stakes Cheesy

. My suggestion to you is wait till its actually allowed to sell your stakes. I would not mind buying a couple more myself.

.

It is my hope that the people claiming to have 50-90 stakes will PM me.

Keep 10 NEM.

Sell 40-80 NEM stakes to me.

A good deal!

They could not lose!

10% is 400 stakes Shocked

, thats a lot of NEM. You want to open a NEM bank or something? please share your idea, if its good people might want to invest in that rather than sell you thier NEM directly. Hope its not a quick pump and dump scheme Wink

my curiosity always gets the better of me lol

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Quote from: mindact on March 27, 2014, 06:18:18 AM

when NEM is going to launch?
April is coming.

patience - do you have it ?

The goal was to have an ALPHA in April. Release ist still months out.
UP will give an update soon though. It's just an update though so don't expect anything formal or simply too much Wink

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Quote from: ashapasa on March 27, 2014, 05:22:57 AM

You should contact those people who claim to have 50-90 stakes Cheesy

. My suggestion to you is wait till its actually allowed to sell your stakes. I would not mind buying a couple more myself.

.

It is my hope that the people claiming to have 50-90 stakes will PM me.

Keep 10 NEM.

Sell 40-80 NEM stakes to me.

A good deal!

They could not lose!

patmast3r

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Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 06:12:50 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on March 27, 2014, 05:23:52 AM

Quote from: UtopianNow on March 27, 2014, 05:02:28 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on March 27, 2014, 04:06:13 AM

I don't have any sockpuppet accounts, but i would like to sell you my share for NXT. I guess we will get about 1,100,000 NEM so about 252,500NXT for it?

If each NEM stake is 1,100,000 NEM coins, then I would pay 27,500 NXT per stake (rate is 1:40)

At the current price for NXT at bter.com, that would equate to over 1.375 Bitcoins per NEM stake

1,100,000 / 40 = 27,500

27500 * 0.00005b = 1.375 bitcoin

It is a good profit, and for those who have multiple NEM stakes it is a good way to get a decent stake in NXT and still keep some NEM.

The current NXT price is very low. After the asset exchange is launched 27,500 NXT will be worth more than 1.375 bitcoin.

yeah thats what i meant. I just mixed up the point.

So do you want to escrow this, or how do you want to proceed?

(PS: i am not going to give you a freeroll on this, meaning, that you only pay after the marketprice is established, because then you will only buy if you feel like it is worth it, otherwise you just bail)

I suggest we usee anon for escrow and you send him the 27500 NXT

Yes anon136 would be my first choice for escrow. I know he is doing the current exocoin IPO now, and he has complete trust from everyone.

I am seeking no free roll, and all trades will occur in the first 48-72 hours after ownership of the stakes has been transferred.

As I have said, I am valuing NEM before release at 10% the value of NXT, which has been released and tested for 4 months now.

Once utopianfuture releases the details of how stake ownership will be transferred to NEM stakeholders I will be in a position to work out the escrow details.

At this time I am trying to gauge interest in my offer.

I need at least 6% of NEM stakes for my business idea, but I would prefer closer to 10%.

If there is not enough interest shown I would reconsider my offer before any trades took place.

May I ask what your "business idea" is ?

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when NEM is going to launch?
April is coming.

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Better tomorrow waiting to be created
Great coin

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