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hero member
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Never back down !!!
How's the closed alpha coming along? Any horrendous bugs reared their ugly heads?


Define horrendous Smiley
So far NIS is still the main subject of testing as NCC is not done yet.
Gimre and Bloddyrookie are working everyday to get everything working stable. Other devs would have probably said "screw it good enough for alpha" but that's not how our core-devs role Wink

As I'm writing this we hit 3046 blocks Smiley

That sounds awesome.
Sounds like we are already in front of Qora ;-)
sr. member
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How's the closed alpha coming along? Any horrendous bugs reared their ugly heads?


Define horrendous Smiley
So far NIS is still the main subject of testing as NCC is not done yet.
Gimre and Bloddyrookie are working everyday to get everything working stable. Other devs would have probably said "screw it good enough for alpha" but that's not how our core-devs role Wink

As I'm writing this we hit 3046 blocks Smiley

What kind of blockchain cache size are we looking at for the local client? Thinking about the mobile version and if a standalone app is created does it need to cheat blockchain storage like mycillium.

edit: nxt is currently at 319mb for client/cache
hero member
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How's the closed alpha coming along? Any horrendous bugs reared their ugly heads?


Define horrendous Smiley
So far NIS is still the main subject of testing as NCC is not done yet.
Gimre and Bloddyrookie are working everyday to get everything working stable. Other devs would have probably said "screw it good enough for alpha" but that's not how our core-devs role Wink

As I'm writing this we hit 3046 blocks Smiley
sr. member
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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
You may be right, but i would guess that the key creation process will stay nearly the the same in alpha,beta and final version. I plan a package that will enable everybody to create this vouchers and as i am not a pro dev it will take some of my time. The key creation process will hopefully not change that much so it can be prepared now which will give me some more time for the graphics later on and i will be able to test my first results on the beta.

Actually we're considering one change, but I'll ansewer you on PM anyway

@ gimre thanks a lot, i don't want to hurry, pls. take your time
@ kodtycoon  everything fine, tnx !  Smiley

1. curve is secp256k1
2. public key is "compressed" (there's byte 02 or 03 byte used instead of encoding full Y, Y can be retrieved from X and that 02/03 byte)

encoding public key (PK):
1. d1 = sha3(PK)
2. d2 = ripe160(d1)
3. d3 = concat(version, d2),  version byte for alpha is 0x98
4. chk = 4 first bytes of sha3(d3)
5. d4 = concat(d3, chk)
6. Base32encode(d4)


I tried translating this but google doesn't recognise the language  Grin
hero member
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Hi guys,

I would like to sell my NEM stake, but I only have an office laptop so can't install the NXT client. Is there maybe a webclient through which I can acces the AE?

My NEM stake is otherwise also for sale directly for the highest buy order on the AE. So if anyone is interested, my NEM stake is for sale for 19.000 NXT or 2 BTC at the moment. Can be more or less depending on the AE value. PM me if interested!

Not dropping my interest in NEM but just in need of money at the moment, will buy back in later and support the community cause I strongly believe in this coin.



You can try to use my public node at http://217.17.88.5:7876


Wouldn't this be a security risk to access the wallet and
send the pass phrase over a non secure (http) connection?

Btw: Do you know where I can find a list of public NXT
nodes also those that are available trough HTTPS?
Thanks.



I don't know any public nodes for nxt but https isn't really your biggest worry there. You're basically entering your passphrase on a website hosted by a 3rd party. Encrypted or not that always houses a bit of a risk.
hero member
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hero member
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Hi guys,

I would like to sell my NEM stake, but I only have an office laptop so can't install the NXT client. Is there maybe a webclient through which I can acces the AE?

My NEM stake is otherwise also for sale directly for the highest buy order on the AE. So if anyone is interested, my NEM stake is for sale for 19.000 NXT or 2 BTC at the moment. Can be more or less depending on the AE value. PM me if interested!

Not dropping my interest in NEM but just in need of money at the moment, will buy back in later and support the community cause I strongly believe in this coin.



You can try to use my public node at http://217.17.88.5:7876


Wouldn't this be a security risk to access the wallet and
send the pass phrase over a non secure (http) connection?

Btw: Do you know where I can find a list of public NXT
nodes also those that are available trough HTTPS?
Thanks.

full member
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How's the closed alpha coming along? Any horrendous bugs reared their ugly heads?
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
You may be right, but i would guess that the key creation process will stay nearly the the same in alpha,beta and final version. I plan a package that will enable everybody to create this vouchers and as i am not a pro dev it will take some of my time. The key creation process will hopefully not change that much so it can be prepared now which will give me some more time for the graphics later on and i will be able to test my first results on the beta.

Actually we're considering one change, but I'll ansewer you on PM anyway

@ gimre thanks a lot, i don't want to hurry, pls. take your time
@ kodtycoon  everything fine, tnx !  Smiley

1. curve is secp256k1
2. public key is "compressed" (there's byte 02 or 03 byte used instead of encoding full Y, Y can be retrieved from X and that 02/03 byte)

encoding public key (PK):
1. d1 = sha3(PK)
2. d2 = ripe160(d1)
3. d3 = concat(version, d2),  version byte for alpha is 0x98
4. chk = 4 first bytes of sha3(d3)
5. d4 = concat(d3, chk)
6. Base32encode(d4)


Perfect, that will help, thanks! Will the base32 use special alphabet? private key will be 32byte int? and is there already a wallet import format defined for the private key, will it be base32 or base58 encoded?
legendary
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Hi guys,

I would like to sell my NEM stake, but I only have an office laptop so can't install the NXT client. Is there maybe a webclient through which I can acces the AE?

My NEM stake is otherwise also for sale directly for the highest buy order on the AE. So if anyone is interested, my NEM stake is for sale for 19.000 NXT or 2 BTC at the moment. Can be more or less depending on the AE value. PM me if interested!

Not dropping my interest in NEM but just in need of money at the moment, will buy back in later and support the community cause I strongly believe in this coin.



You can try to use my public node at http://217.17.88.5:7876
hero member
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Nxt NEM
legendary
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You may be right, but i would guess that the key creation process will stay nearly the the same in alpha,beta and final version. I plan a package that will enable everybody to create this vouchers and as i am not a pro dev it will take some of my time. The key creation process will hopefully not change that much so it can be prepared now which will give me some more time for the graphics later on and i will be able to test my first results on the beta.

Actually we're considering one change, but I'll ansewer you on PM anyway

@ gimre thanks a lot, i don't want to hurry, pls. take your time
@ kodtycoon  everything fine, tnx !  Smiley

1. curve is secp256k1
2. public key is "compressed" (there's byte 02 or 03 byte used instead of encoding full Y, Y can be retrieved from X and that 02/03 byte)

encoding public key (PK):
1. d1 = sha3(PK)
2. d2 = ripe160(d1)
3. d3 = concat(version, d2),  version byte for alpha is 0x98
4. chk = 4 first bytes of sha3(d3)
5. d4 = concat(d3, chk)
6. Base32encode(d4)
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
You may be right, but i would guess that the key creation process will stay nearly the the same in alpha,beta and final version. I plan a package that will enable everybody to create this vouchers and as i am not a pro dev it will take some of my time. The key creation process will hopefully not change that much so it can be prepared now which will give me some more time for the graphics later on and i will be able to test my first results on the beta.

Actually we're considering one change, but I'll ansewer you on PM anyway

@ gimre thanks a lot, i don't want to hurry, pls. take your time
@ kodtycoon  everything fine, tnx !  Smiley
full member
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NEM Enthusiast
To the myriad number of people complaining about the length of time NEM is taking to build, just bear in mind NEM is being built from scratch. A fully-functioning, scalable technological platform with a stunning user-friendly client and blockchain explorer does not just happen. It takes time and patience to create something truly worthwhile.

The roadmap ahead for NEM can be found in the F.A.Q. thread.

Also, shameless NEM subreddit plug for those who haven't seen it.
legendary
Activity: 866
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You may be right, but i would guess that the key creation process will stay nearly the the same in alpha,beta and final version. I plan a package that will enable everybody to create this vouchers and as i am not a pro dev it will take some of my time. The key creation process will hopefully not change that much so it can be prepared now which will give me some more time for the graphics later on and i will be able to test my first results on the beta.

Actually we're considering one change, but I'll ansewer you on PM anyway
full member
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NEM Enthusiast
Could a developer help me to answer this Redditor's question regarding future features of NEM?

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I know NEM will be launching with an asset exchange and encrypted messaging etc, but I'm curious what the plans for NEM are after that. Will NEM eventually have features like Transparent Forging, Account Leasing, and an Alias System?


TF - rather not (it might make sense in PoS, but not that much in PoI, also, is there any coin/system running that has WORKING TF?)
Account Leasing - actually power leasing not account leasing - it'll have something that we believe will be much more interesting, but we don't want to spread the details yet
Alias System - we were discussing it, and we did'n find good reason to have it (also we are thinking about something that might be more general)

Thanks!
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Thanks xtester for an interesting post. In some circles NEM is accused of being "socialist" which is nothing further from the truth. NEM's equality concept is about equal opportunity not equal outcomes. Hence "we could support the the principle of equal opportunity to give all people a fair chance in life." That's the idea behind community distribution round.[/size]

Totally agree with you, utopianfuture. Now people who think we are socialists can read the post above and understand what we mean when we speak about equality.

In addition to that I think the further NEM will advance, while there will be a lot who will love us, there will always be some people who will continually find something to accuse us of. In the end they will be amazed at our outcome, that's what we'll focus on, that's what will matter.

We should become a paradise for all productive, innovative and ingenuos people.

Btw are you acquainted with the work of nobel laureat in economics and probably the most important psychologist alive, Daniel Kahneman?

NEM accused of being socialist! this is hilarious!!
I agree with our ideas... equal opportunities is a key concept and a fundamental distinction of any reminiscent of central planned economies.
I am actually reading the actual best-seller of the moment; Thomas Picketty and all his idea of r>g as a source of inequality. In this context, NEM can be a key tool to equally distribute the capital (stakes), we are creating a complete "new economy" in which the capital, as well as the labour force is not concentrated. Thus, everyone has the opportunity to on the one hand "invest" and obtain capital return and second, to use the labour force to create conditions of increasing wealth.
I'm looking forward to the moment that we can give a very relevant step in the consolidation of the movement, which is the possibility to connect NEM with the "real world" (merchants, local trade, etc); there will be at the ed, the strength of the movement.  
hero member
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Hi devs!

I would like to prepare the paper-wallet voucher and will need NEM private keys and a correspondig NEM addresses for this. I am trying to find out how both will be created but will need your help as it seems that i have currently not all the infos i would need.
 

Although I believe paper wallet is a great idea, I doubt that it makes any sense to prepare it before Beta.

You may be right, but i would guess that the key creation process will stay nearly the the same in alpha,beta and final version. I plan a package that will enable everybody to create this vouchers and as i am not a pro dev it will take some of my time. The key creation process will hopefully not change that much so it can be prepared now which will give me some more time for the graphics later on and i will be able to test my first results on the beta.

nxt didnt have a white paper for months after launch? has that stopped their epic growth recently? all the attention? nope lol white paper now or later is inconsequential in the larger scheme of things. chillax your cax! Cool

hold on please, i am not asking for a white paper here. Just want to know how the addresses are build and encoded to prepare my work for the NEM community. But, ok, seems to be to early to ask.

It's not too early to ask. This stuff is definitely already settled.
As i remember it your proposed way (sha3-ripe160-...) was spot on but if you want to headover to #nemcoin on freenode you can ask a core-dev Smiley
newbie
Activity: 26
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Hi devs!

I would like to prepare the paper-wallet voucher and will need NEM private keys and a correspondig NEM addresses for this. I am trying to find out how both will be created but will need your help as it seems that i have currently not all the infos i would need.
 

Although I believe paper wallet is a great idea, I doubt that it makes any sense to prepare it before Beta.

You may be right, but i would guess that the key creation process will stay nearly the the same in alpha,beta and final version. I plan a package that will enable everybody to create this vouchers and as i am not a pro dev it will take some of my time. The key creation process will hopefully not change that much so it can be prepared now which will give me some more time for the graphics later on and i will be able to test my first results on the beta.

nxt didnt have a white paper for months after launch? has that stopped their epic growth recently? all the attention? nope lol white paper now or later is inconsequential in the larger scheme of things. chillax your cax! Cool

one moment, please, i am not asking for a white paper here, i am talking about a paper wallet. Just want to know how the addresses are build and encoded to prepare my work for the NEM community. But, ok, seems to be a bit to early to ask.
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