Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 412. (Read 661525 times)
February 15, 2014, 12:15:14 PM
Hello everyone. I I have made deposit in 1500 NXT and want to participate in the development of the project under the name - Elena82. I'm from Russia and a longtime member of the Russian forum mmgp.ru about earnings on the Internet. Created a topic about nemkoin - http://mmgp.ru/showthread.php?p=6183845#post6183845
February 15, 2014, 12:14:11 PM
A quick update:
the stakeholder list is back online again and is updated to page 20 of thread 2. There are a few cases of duplicate hashes that cause us to take an extra time in checking the list.
Luckily, as I see it there is probably just one or two fraudsters that tries to take other's transactions and claim a stake. Now in the case that two accounts having the same hash, then one would be legitimate and one would be a fraudster, I would apply these criterion:
1. veteran account would be considered legitimate while new account would be labeled "fraudster".
2. if two accounts are both new; priority is given to the account that post the hash first. The account posts the hash later would be labeled "fraudster".
These two rules could be reversed if a conclusive evidence of the hash's ownership is provided either by: 1. the transaction is signed by one account; 2. a small amount is sent from the sending address to NEM's address to prove the ownership of the sending account.
Thanks for supporting NEM and I apologize for the lateness of updating the stakeholder list or the inconveniences these above methods causing legitimate stakeholders.
We have been checking thoroughly registration thread 2 from the start. When we catch up with the thread 2, a similar audition of thread 1 will be performed.
UP
the stakeholder list is back online again and is updated to page 20 of thread 2. There are a few cases of duplicate hashes that cause us to take an extra time in checking the list.
Luckily, as I see it there is probably just one or two fraudsters that tries to take other's transactions and claim a stake. Now in the case that two accounts having the same hash, then one would be legitimate and one would be a fraudster, I would apply these criterion:
1. veteran account would be considered legitimate while new account would be labeled "fraudster".
2. if two accounts are both new; priority is given to the account that post the hash first. The account posts the hash later would be labeled "fraudster".
These two rules could be reversed if a conclusive evidence of the hash's ownership is provided either by: 1. the transaction is signed by one account; 2. a small amount is sent from the sending address to NEM's address to prove the ownership of the sending account.
Thanks for supporting NEM and I apologize for the lateness of updating the stakeholder list or the inconveniences these above methods causing legitimate stakeholders.
We have been checking thoroughly registration thread 2 from the start. When we catch up with the thread 2, a similar audition of thread 1 will be performed.
UP
Dear NEM community,
I have finished thread 1 about duplicated hashes and I would like to ask you to check it out. If you find your username on the list try to prove your ownership how utopian mentioned above. You can also check who used your hash/tx ID.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdFFvQ0pLRmNsbWM5ekNxY3lmcHdWa1E#gid=0
Edit: any of this case please leave a note in this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nem-stake-complaint-questions-etc-450200
February 15, 2014, 12:08:25 PM
It's something that we could look into.
I think all of these ideas are fantastic, and it's really great people are brainstorming for ideas to make NEM unique. However, I think, for the first release of NEM, it's important we have at least these two things:
- A working client.
- A working exchange (decentralised or otherwise).
What do you think?
February 15, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
Thanks for the comments. The cheesy parts was originated from a source I do not dare to name here 
I am working on wording for the front site of NEM and I like a more direct and forceful sentencing style too. So it will be more professional, more inspirational without the cheesy parts. I will solicit comments when the site is open for preview.
While I am not a native speaker, the front page did get edited by an English writer.
I am working on wording for the front site of NEM and I like a more direct and forceful sentencing style too. So it will be more professional, more inspirational without the cheesy parts. I will solicit comments when the site is open for preview. While I am not a native speaker, the front page did get edited by an English writer.
Looking forward to it! Does this mean we're deciding on a logo soon then? I personally really like this logo.
I've seen two prototype websites listed by users 'Nbower' and 'erkki12' on Trello. I'll link them here so Bitcointalk guys can see 'em and give feedback:
- Nbower - http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/
- erkki12 - http://boarders.wix.com/nemcoin
Personally I'm a huge fan of both; they look clean, inviting and give off a professional aura. My personal preference is Nbower's stye; huge, easy to read blocks of informative text, friendly and aesthetically pleasing (I really like the blue theme).
February 15, 2014, 11:56:24 AM
Nice post yurkomik. I like your ideas very much, I too think we need a market where we can trade/buy real goods with NEM. Without a proper market, NEM is just another dead coin in the long-run( 1 yrs?)
As of this moment, two events are likely to happen with the release of NEM
Scenario 1: NEM gets released, people start to rush to dump their coins to make a quick buck leading to a dead cypto.
Scenario 2: Most people hoard their coins for forging, unintentionally artificially inflating price ( NXT?) but susceptible to big price volatility with the smallest trade activity,rendering the currency useless.
Money was created to facilitate trade between goods and services, with cryptos we are creating money without goods and services. 99% of all alt currencies will be dead in a year all due to lack of a market, lets make NEM the exception to the rule. We really do need participants for this experimental currency to succeed not silent stake holders.
Let me be one of the first to volunteer , My name is Pasang I own a small hotel in Bhutan. I could offer my rooms in NEM but since most of u guys are probably not in my locality it would be pointless, instead I would be willing to post 10 items for sale every month for sale priced in NEM on its release for the next four months to get the ball rolling.
I hope more of you will join me in this endeavor, We are all potential NEM coin millionaires and now it is up to us to make this million actually worth a million or just worthless digital numbers.
As of this moment, two events are likely to happen with the release of NEM
Scenario 1: NEM gets released, people start to rush to dump their coins to make a quick buck leading to a dead cypto.
Scenario 2: Most people hoard their coins for forging, unintentionally artificially inflating price ( NXT?) but susceptible to big price volatility with the smallest trade activity,rendering the currency useless.
Money was created to facilitate trade between goods and services, with cryptos we are creating money without goods and services. 99% of all alt currencies will be dead in a year all due to lack of a market, lets make NEM the exception to the rule. We really do need participants for this experimental currency to succeed not silent stake holders.
Let me be one of the first to volunteer , My name is Pasang I own a small hotel in Bhutan. I could offer my rooms in NEM but since most of u guys are probably not in my locality it would be pointless, instead I would be willing to post 10 items for sale every month for sale priced in NEM on its release for the next four months to get the ball rolling.
I hope more of you will join me in this endeavor, We are all potential NEM coin millionaires and now it is up to us to make this million actually worth a million or just worthless digital numbers.
We have been bouncing around ideas to create a market structure for real goods. One of the problems is that of trust. There has to be a mechanism for feedback for both the buyer and seller, that is built into the system. I hope to include something like this for NEM in the future.
Agreed! If we can get a reputation system that is linked to the account alias we will have huge advantage against all other coins!
@Jaguar: How do you feel about storing reputations in the blockchain ? One could pay 1 NEM to store a -1 or +1 to a specific address. I know changing address is not exactly hard but at least they'd have to change address and people tend to be more cautios with new addresses. Also maybe the reputation could be transfered to the new address ? Like marking the coins that are owned with a rep instead of an address ?
Just thinking out lout here
It's something that we could look into.
Could the reputation system work so that it would be free to give feedback, but you could only give feedback to an account you have traded with before and only one feedback per trade. It should be also done so that the right to give feedback would expire after some time, so that you couldn't come after 1 year to give the feedback. IMO this is the best possible way to implement this reputation/alias system...
February 15, 2014, 11:50:14 AM
@utopian -- Is the spreadsheet up to date? I sent in and posted a few nights ago but don't see my name...
Update to page 70 currently. Sorry for the delay as I have some other works to do, but it is scheduled to be updated today to page 80.
February 15, 2014, 11:40:56 AM
@utopian -- Is the spreadsheet up to date? I sent in and posted a few nights ago but don't see my name...
February 15, 2014, 11:39:19 AM
I'm new here. My brother neil(bitcointalk acct neil54321) told me this is an good investment opportunity. that's why i am here.
My name is John, i am an accounting student. I live in Canada. This is my first investment. wish me good luck!!!!
Working on my own account, always get an error message. i will post my account info later
My account name is blackswan121. i will sent my 0.075 btc soon.
Thanks
My name is John, i am an accounting student. I live in Canada. This is my first investment. wish me good luck!!!!
Working on my own account, always get an error message. i will post my account info later
My account name is blackswan121. i will sent my 0.075 btc soon.
Thanks
February 15, 2014, 11:38:45 AM
some updates:
3. News but not sure good or bad. Before I have a chance to buy them, Neweconomymovement.com and Neweconomymovement.org have been taken by someone else, probably a NEM stakeholder I will have Nemcoin.info up in a few days for a preview.
bad news 3. News but not sure good or bad. Before I have a chance to buy them, Neweconomymovement.com and Neweconomymovement.org have been taken by someone else, probably a NEM stakeholder
I will have Nemcoin.info up in a few days for a preview.
February 15, 2014, 11:38:30 AM
@Utopian
Just pointing out some grammatical errors in the intro:
Here it is fixed; it just flows better in general:
On a side note, I feel the 'sovereigns over their own destiny' thing is kind of cheesy. I also feel like the intro is a bit of a mouthful and is likely to confuse a lot of people. Can I propose a shortened, snappier version?
What do you think?
Quote
A groundbreaking[1] crypto-currency that gives control of their [2]economy back to the people and establishes[3] them as sovereigns over their own destiny. A currency is an expression of a political ideology and social attitude. Cryptocurency expresses the idea of financial freedom and a new global economic order. There are many cryptocurrency[4], but do not mistake us as just another one.
We are a[5] New Economy Movement.
We are a[5] New Economy Movement.
Just pointing out some grammatical errors in the intro:
- [1] - 'groundbreaking' should be double-barrelled.
- [2] - 'the' not 'their'.
- [3] - 'and establishes' should be replaced with ', establishing'.
- [4] - 'cryptocurrencies' not 'cryptocurrency'.
- [5] - 'a' works, but I think 'the' works better. 'The New Economy Movement' has a ring to it.
Here it is fixed; it just flows better in general:
Quote
A ground-breaking cryptocurrency that gives control of the economy back to the people, establishing them as sovereigns over their own destiny. A currency is an expression of a political ideology and social attitude. Cryptocurency expresses the idea of financial freedom and a new global economic order. There are many cryptocurrencies, but do not mistake us as just another one.
We are The New Economy Movement.
We are The New Economy Movement.
On a side note, I feel the 'sovereigns over their own destiny' thing is kind of cheesy. I also feel like the intro is a bit of a mouthful and is likely to confuse a lot of people. Can I propose a shortened, snappier version?
Quote
NEM is a seond-generation cryptocurrency, built from the ground up with new code. Radically improved over Bitcoin, it strives to build on a philosophy of charity, egalitarianism and economic decentralisation. This is The New Economy Movement.
What do you think?
Thanks for the comments. The cheesy parts was originated from a source I do not dare to name here
I am working on wording for the front site of NEM and I like a more direct and forceful sentencing style too. So it will be more professional, more inspirational without the cheesy parts. I will solicit comments when the site is open for preview. While I am not a native speaker, the front page did get edited by an English writer.
February 15, 2014, 11:31:03 AM
@Utopian
Just pointing out some grammatical errors in the intro:
Here it is fixed; it just flows better in general:
On a side note, I feel the 'sovereigns over their own destiny' thing is kind of cheesy. I also feel like the intro is a bit of a mouthful and is likely to confuse a lot of people. Can I propose a shortened, snappier version?
What do you think?
Quote
A groundbreaking[1] crypto-currency that gives control of their [2]economy back to the people and establishes[3] them as sovereigns over their own destiny. A currency is an expression of a political ideology and social attitude. Cryptocurency expresses the idea of financial freedom and a new global economic order. There are many cryptocurrency[4], but do not mistake us as just another one.
We are a[5] New Economy Movement.
We are a[5] New Economy Movement.
Just pointing out some grammatical errors in the intro:
- [1] - 'groundbreaking' should be double-barrelled.
- [2] - 'the' not 'their'.
- [3] - 'and establishes' should be replaced with ', establishing'.
- [4] - 'cryptocurrencies' not 'cryptocurrency'.
- [5] - 'a' works, but I think 'the' works better. 'The New Economy Movement' has a ring to it.
Here it is fixed; it just flows better in general:
Quote
A ground-breaking cryptocurrency that gives control of the economy back to the people, establishing them as sovereigns over their own destiny. A currency is an expression of a political ideology and social attitude. Cryptocurency expresses the idea of financial freedom and a new global economic order. There are many cryptocurrencies, but do not mistake us as just another one.
We are The New Economy Movement.
We are The New Economy Movement.
On a side note, I feel the 'sovereigns over their own destiny' thing is kind of cheesy. I also feel like the intro is a bit of a mouthful and is likely to confuse a lot of people. Can I propose a shortened, snappier version?
Quote
NEM is a seond-generation cryptocurrency, built from the ground up with new code. Radically improved over Bitcoin, it strives to build on a philosophy of charity, egalitarianism and economic decentralisation. This is The New Economy Movement.
What do you think?
February 15, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
Nice post yurkomik. I like your ideas very much, I too think we need a market where we can trade/buy real goods with NEM. Without a proper market, NEM is just another dead coin in the long-run( 1 yrs?)
As of this moment, two events are likely to happen with the release of NEM
Scenario 1: NEM gets released, people start to rush to dump their coins to make a quick buck leading to a dead cypto.
Scenario 2: Most people hoard their coins for forging, unintentionally artificially inflating price ( NXT?) but susceptible to big price volatility with the smallest trade activity,rendering the currency useless.
Money was created to facilitate trade between goods and services, with cryptos we are creating money without goods and services. 99% of all alt currencies will be dead in a year all due to lack of a market, lets make NEM the exception to the rule. We really do need participants for this experimental currency to succeed not silent stake holders.
Let me be one of the first to volunteer , My name is Pasang I own a small hotel in Bhutan. I could offer my rooms in NEM but since most of u guys are probably not in my locality it would be pointless, instead I would be willing to post 10 items for sale every month for sale priced in NEM on its release for the next four months to get the ball rolling.
I hope more of you will join me in this endeavor, We are all potential NEM coin millionaires and now it is up to us to make this million actually worth a million or just worthless digital numbers.
As of this moment, two events are likely to happen with the release of NEM
Scenario 1: NEM gets released, people start to rush to dump their coins to make a quick buck leading to a dead cypto.
Scenario 2: Most people hoard their coins for forging, unintentionally artificially inflating price ( NXT?) but susceptible to big price volatility with the smallest trade activity,rendering the currency useless.
Money was created to facilitate trade between goods and services, with cryptos we are creating money without goods and services. 99% of all alt currencies will be dead in a year all due to lack of a market, lets make NEM the exception to the rule. We really do need participants for this experimental currency to succeed not silent stake holders.
Let me be one of the first to volunteer , My name is Pasang I own a small hotel in Bhutan. I could offer my rooms in NEM but since most of u guys are probably not in my locality it would be pointless, instead I would be willing to post 10 items for sale every month for sale priced in NEM on its release for the next four months to get the ball rolling.
I hope more of you will join me in this endeavor, We are all potential NEM coin millionaires and now it is up to us to make this million actually worth a million or just worthless digital numbers.
We have been bouncing around ideas to create a market structure for real goods. One of the problems is that of trust. There has to be a mechanism for feedback for both the buyer and seller, that is built into the system. I hope to include something like this for NEM in the future.
Agreed! If we can get a reputation system that is linked to the account alias we will have huge advantage against all other coins!
@Jaguar: How do you feel about storing reputations in the blockchain ? One could pay 1 NEM to store a -1 or +1 to a specific address. I know changing address is not exactly hard but at least they'd have to change address and people tend to be more cautios with new addresses. Also maybe the reputation could be transfered to the new address ? Like marking the coins that are owned with a rep instead of an address ?
Just thinking out lout here
It's something that we could look into.
February 15, 2014, 10:38:49 AM
some updates:
1. My last ad in Doge subreddit is from 2/15 (today) to 2/16. I want people there to see our development plan not the bunch of envy comments so go there and upvote my development plan comments http://www.reddit.com/comments/1wq6wj/envy_no_more_the_first_egalitarian_coin_join_the/?sort=new . Now despite of all "envy" and" hate" comments, we have close to 2000 click-though from Doge-Reddit. It is getting attention
2. Koream has checked thoroughly thread 1 for duplicate hashes https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhnotCbeR7nrdDlfanJzQS1lQkVGT1J2ZktWNmVCX2c&usp=sharing#gid=15
If you are not qualified in the stakeholder list (no Y next to your account) and your account is in duplicate hash thread, you will need to prove that you own the sending account by sending a very small amount to NEM address and let us know the transaction ID.
As long as your accounts have a "Y" then you are fine.
3. News but not sure good or bad. Before I have a chance to buy them, Neweconomymovement.com and Neweconomymovement.org have been taken by someone else, probably a NEM stakeholder I will have Nemcoin.info up in a few days for a preview.
1. My last ad in Doge subreddit is from 2/15 (today) to 2/16. I want people there to see our development plan not the bunch of envy comments so go there and upvote my development plan comments http://www.reddit.com/comments/1wq6wj/envy_no_more_the_first_egalitarian_coin_join_the/?sort=new . Now despite of all "envy" and" hate" comments, we have close to 2000 click-though from Doge-Reddit. It is getting attention
2. Koream has checked thoroughly thread 1 for duplicate hashes https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhnotCbeR7nrdDlfanJzQS1lQkVGT1J2ZktWNmVCX2c&usp=sharing#gid=15
If you are not qualified in the stakeholder list (no Y next to your account) and your account is in duplicate hash thread, you will need to prove that you own the sending account by sending a very small amount to NEM address and let us know the transaction ID.
As long as your accounts have a "Y" then you are fine.
3. News but not sure good or bad. Before I have a chance to buy them, Neweconomymovement.com and Neweconomymovement.org have been taken by someone else, probably a NEM stakeholder
I will have Nemcoin.info up in a few days for a preview. February 15, 2014, 10:08:43 AM
hi utopianfuture,
I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ye, Jianjiang. I am currently a student of Xi Dian University in China.
My brother has rich experience on Cryptocurrencies investment. and he suggest me to invest NEM which has huge potential in future as a derivative of second generation coin NXT.
I am not sure whether I can catch up with this train. Please help me and I have sent 0.075 BTC to the address.
Thank you very much.
I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ye, Jianjiang. I am currently a student of Xi Dian University in China.
My brother has rich experience on Cryptocurrencies investment. and he suggest me to invest NEM which has huge potential in future as a derivative of second generation coin NXT.
I am not sure whether I can catch up with this train. Please help me and I have sent 0.075 BTC to the address.
Thank you very much.
Our introduction thread is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467027.new#new; please move your post there.
February 15, 2014, 10:07:11 AM
hi utopianfuture,
I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ye, Jianjiang. I am currently a student of Xi Dian University in China.
My brother has rich experience on Cryptocurrencies investment. and he suggest me to invest NEM which has huge potential in future as a derivative of second generation coin NXT.
I am not sure whether I can catch up with this train. Please help me and I have sent 0.075 BTC to the address.
Thank you very much.
I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ye, Jianjiang. I am currently a student of Xi Dian University in China.
My brother has rich experience on Cryptocurrencies investment. and he suggest me to invest NEM which has huge potential in future as a derivative of second generation coin NXT.
I am not sure whether I can catch up with this train. Please help me and I have sent 0.075 BTC to the address.
Thank you very much.
February 15, 2014, 09:44:51 AM
hi there,
My name is Li, Yun and have 3 month virtual coin investment experience. I bought GPU cards to mine Alt coins, and then had been introduced by my friends to this NEM today. Frankly, I would say NXT is a very successful second generation coin and I believe NEM should have better performance based on NET fame and dev group's experience. I am very expecting to join NEM, therefore, I Send 0.075 btc. You may check it through below link and help to reserve my NEM coin.
https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/6c5ba01abcbcc08e182816c67051b8a10e7b9f0abd359047b952d251458cfdcb
Thanks in advance!
My name is Li, Yun and have 3 month virtual coin investment experience. I bought GPU cards to mine Alt coins, and then had been introduced by my friends to this NEM today. Frankly, I would say NXT is a very successful second generation coin and I believe NEM should have better performance based on NET fame and dev group's experience. I am very expecting to join NEM, therefore, I Send 0.075 btc. You may check it through below link and help to reserve my NEM coin.
https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/6c5ba01abcbcc08e182816c67051b8a10e7b9f0abd359047b952d251458cfdcb
Thanks in advance!
February 15, 2014, 09:20:13 AM
Hello utopianfuture,
I come from China,and started contact BTC and LTC on the year of 2012,and then know more other cryptocurrency.I also have some NXT,which is currency of stake proof,and this point is great ,it means a lot. And as for NXT development currency- NEM,more fairness and equality means great future. It will be my great honor to be one of NEM founder ,and also I hope I can contribute my effort to the NEM development in China,where have huge potential users.
Pls accept me as a one of founder.
I come from China,and started contact BTC and LTC on the year of 2012,and then know more other cryptocurrency.I also have some NXT,which is currency of stake proof,and this point is great ,it means a lot. And as for NXT development currency- NEM,more fairness and equality means great future. It will be my great honor to be one of NEM founder ,and also I hope I can contribute my effort to the NEM development in China,where have huge potential users.
Pls accept me as a one of founder.
February 15, 2014, 09:15:25 AM
Hi.
I am new to bitcointalk.
I consider NEM very perspective for simple people and I wish to join an association for further development.
I will help to develop new currency on the Russian-language forums.
I am new to bitcointalk.
I consider NEM very perspective for simple people and I wish to join an association for further development.
I will help to develop new currency on the Russian-language forums.
February 15, 2014, 09:12:56 AM
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am Chris Mu who is an investor of NXT. Just saw the thread of this NEM today and sent 0.075 BTC to the account 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ. Can you please reserve related NEM coin to me?
Thanks,
Chris
I am Chris Mu who is an investor of NXT. Just saw the thread of this NEM today and sent 0.075 BTC to the account 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ. Can you please reserve related NEM coin to me?
Thanks,
Chris
February 15, 2014, 09:06:02 AM
This thread is getting flooded with these newcomers introducing themselves. Utopian please make a new thread for these ppl. No discrimination against new participants intended, but I mean that isn't this thread supposed to regard updates and stuff like that. Registration threads should be for these guys...
Hi all. Thanks for joining in and supporting NEM. A new introduction thread is made here for introduction purpose. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467027.new#new
It could end up not so well if you join NEM but you can't read future instructions in English.
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