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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1110. (Read 2985369 times)

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NEM has a massive fund set aside for marketing, so the potential is there. How I feel is we have 1 shot at doing something right, why should we rush it? Should the development team start spending marketing funds now while we still have features in development, or should we wait and market heavily after v1? I'd expect the latter to be more effective.

It's like spending money on an ad, "Hey, buy this car. One day it'll go 100 miles on the gallon, but right now we're still working on that feature."
I think if we pump money into marketing right now, it will mostly be targeting the "investor" type of people. The hype will cause a lot of buying pressure, causing the price to go up too fast. If the v1 features aren't rolled out in a timely manner we'll see a lot of disappointed holders, lots of complaining and we'll likely see a very slow devaluation back to pre marketing levels.

If we don't rush this, and take it slow I think this will happen. More than likely we'll see the antsy "investors" selling early, remember these are the people that are only here for the money. The development team will ninja launch features and over time we'll see a slow healthy growth in price while bringing in real USERS.

i fully agree, and i think most of the team does too but i obviously cant speak on there behalf. advertising at this stage would be closer to spam really. i looked into advertising costs on the likes of cointelegraph and coinmarketcap and some other sites, but the cost i think far outweighs what ever benefit we would get. once more features are rolled out and the marketcap is higher, only then would spending large amounts of money on advertising be a worth while venture. until then, we should focus on producing ground breaking tech and getting the platform to stage where it can be used for a wide variety of uses. so in that respect, it really doesnt make sense to blow huge amounts of funding pre-V1.


I think NEM would see serious action if at least some of the top devs / whitepaper authors (particularly the PhD guys) went public with their identities. Reputation counts for a lot - especially these days. Many people dont pay attention to what you do unless there's a big name / university attached to it - then they read what you put it out and follow what you say. A proper academic working paper formatted the way academic papers usually are - with the identities and university affiliations of the main authors - could help give XEM some of the credibility it needs to rise from the sea of anonymous crypto coins that many people dont seem to take very seriously anymore.

Makoto (a core dev and inventor of PoI) has been to conferences representing NEM and has been attending NEM meetups in Japan.  

Other people like myself also use real names too and also attend meetings and conferences.  

I had hosted two NEM meetups in my locale, but not advertised on Bitcointalk (people I networked with in crypto).  Last meetup had special guest who created first Doge ATM in whole world and knows a lot about crypto.  Meetup has a lot of beer and entertainment (playlist from YouTube  Shocked )

I also attended a Bitcoin meetup in Africa and will write an article on it(like one I wrote about Prague).  Maybe when NEM is a bigger name I'll publish for it too.   Grin

Jokingly I want to invite Spoetnik to a meetup but he lives 6 hours away in the desert  Cheesy  If crypto becomes bigger I'll need to host a troll convention  Shocked

Glad to see they refilled you medication!!

Happy to see you back!!

Seriously though, being involved to this extent is very great to hear. Thanks!
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Holy shitballs. How does that happen, I thought the service was free for a year?

Yes, if you running 1 mirco-instance (t2.micro) it's free. I used it too, for the public NEM-node I created (nemnode.tk - it's down right now, because in panic I terminated every instance). But I tested the biggest once (r3.8xlarge, $2.80 per hour) on the 5th of May to see if the vanity generator can find an NEM-account for me, that includes "punkrock". After about 7 or 9 hours my bill was about 30 dollars and I decided to stop it. So I terminated the instance, but obviously I didn't. That's how this happened.

I don't want to blame Amazon, but you only see the running instances of the region that have been selected in the menu (top right). My free node for NEM always ran in Frankfurt and the expensive VPS that caused these costs, ran in North Virginia. But since I assumed that I had terminated the instance in North Virginia, I didn't use the menu on the upper right again and instead left it standing on Frankfurt. There is no overview of how many instances are running total on my account, otherwise I would have noticed the problem much earlier.

 Just to even identify the problem, how this could happen.

I will update here, when I got answer from Amazon's WebService.

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I actually miss CfB some.  He was kind of funny.
Working on Jinn.

It's sort of strange as his last commit is from 27th of April:
https://github.com/Come-from-Beyond/Abra/commits?author=Come-from-Beyond
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Can someone please explain point number 3. "The high performance node must use the private key of the (delegated) remote

account of the deposit account as the bootkey." Huh
tyz
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Maybe he is spending all his time, try to crack the NEM algorithm and find security flaw and bugs  Wink

4.5 hours



You should have posted a picture of your girlfriend wearing the same t-shirt...

Where is this guy? After months of taunting us to post the white paper, and we do, he disappears. 

I actually miss CfB some.  He was kind of funny.
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so it's similiar approach as Dark/Dash's masternodes? Is there really value in this idea?

not at all, Dash master nodes are very special and serves some special purposes.

The point of node rewards is to give incentive to people running nodes, as fees from harvesting
are too low to make it attractive. Additionaly most likely you'll have much bigger chances of
"winning" in this lottery, than chances of harvesting a block.
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NEM has a massive fund set aside for marketing, so the potential is there. How I feel is we have 1 shot at doing something right, why should we rush it? Should the development team start spending marketing funds now while we still have features in development, or should we wait and market heavily after v1? I'd expect the latter to be more effective.

It's like spending money on an ad, "Hey, buy this car. One day it'll go 100 miles on the gallon, but right now we're still working on that feature."
I think if we pump money into marketing right now, it will mostly be targeting the "investor" type of people. The hype will cause a lot of buying pressure, causing the price to go up too fast. If the v1 features aren't rolled out in a timely manner we'll see a lot of disappointed holders, lots of complaining and we'll likely see a very slow devaluation back to pre marketing levels.

If we don't rush this, and take it slow I think this will happen. More than likely we'll see the antsy "investors" selling early, remember these are the people that are only here for the money. The development team will ninja launch features and over time we'll see a slow healthy growth in price while bringing in real USERS.

I agree so much!




When should come out nem v1??

V1 should not be coming out in a big bang but in modules over several stages. That's my believe anyway.
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4.5 hours



You should have posted a picture of your girlfriend wearing the same t-shirt...

Where is this guy? After months of taunting us to post the white paper, and we do, he disappears. 

I actually miss CfB some.  He was kind of funny.

Working on Jinn.
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mining is so 2012-2013
4.5 hours



You should have posted a picture of your girlfriend wearing the same t-shirt...

Where is this guy? After months of taunting us to post the white paper, and we do, he disappears. 

I actually miss CfB some.  He was kind of funny.
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If anybody has a problem in opening wallet in NIS,
please check first whether notorious adware "TheHDvid-Codec V10" is in your PC.
In my case, this adware was a criminal.
I had a very hard time in opening wallet, but after cleaning this adware, became perfect!
"TheHDvid-Codec V 10" is very hard to eliminate,
please follow several step in following.
http://malwaretips.com/blogs/remove-thehdvid-codec-v10-virus/



Yes, everyone please keep you machine clean.  A good antivirus and good malware program are at least in order. 

Virus from searching: "big natural nemmies" on google?  Shocked
legendary
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mining is so 2012-2013
If anybody has a problem in opening wallet in NIS,
please check first whether notorious adware "TheHDvid-Codec V10" is in your PC.
In my case, this adware was a criminal.
I had a very hard time in opening wallet, but after cleaning this adware, became perfect!
"TheHDvid-Codec V 10" is very hard to eliminate,
please follow several step in following.
http://malwaretips.com/blogs/remove-thehdvid-codec-v10-virus/



Yes, everyone please keep you machine clean.  A good antivirus and good malware program are at least in order. 
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NEM has a massive fund set aside for marketing, so the potential is there. How I feel is we have 1 shot at doing something right, why should we rush it? Should the development team start spending marketing funds now while we still have features in development, or should we wait and market heavily after v1? I'd expect the latter to be more effective.

It's like spending money on an ad, "Hey, buy this car. One day it'll go 100 miles on the gallon, but right now we're still working on that feature."
I think if we pump money into marketing right now, it will mostly be targeting the "investor" type of people. The hype will cause a lot of buying pressure, causing the price to go up too fast. If the v1 features aren't rolled out in a timely manner we'll see a lot of disappointed holders, lots of complaining and we'll likely see a very slow devaluation back to pre marketing levels.

If we don't rush this, and take it slow I think this will happen. More than likely we'll see the antsy "investors" selling early, remember these are the people that are only here for the money. The development team will ninja launch features and over time we'll see a slow healthy growth in price while bringing in real USERS.

i fully agree, and i think most of the team does too but i obviously cant speak on there behalf. advertising at this stage would be closer to spam really. i looked into advertising costs on the likes of cointelegraph and coinmarketcap and some other sites, but the cost i think far outweighs what ever benefit we would get. once more features are rolled out and the marketcap is higher, only then would spending large amounts of money on advertising be a worth while venture. until then, we should focus on producing ground breaking tech and getting the platform to stage where it can be used for a wide variety of uses. so in that respect, it really doesnt make sense to blow huge amounts of funding pre-V1.


I think NEM would see serious action if at least some of the top devs / whitepaper authors (particularly the PhD guys) went public with their identities. Reputation counts for a lot - especially these days. Many people dont pay attention to what you do unless there's a big name / university attached to it - then they read what you put it out and follow what you say. A proper academic working paper formatted the way academic papers usually are - with the identities and university affiliations of the main authors - could help give XEM some of the credibility it needs to rise from the sea of anonymous crypto coins that many people dont seem to take very seriously anymore.

Makoto (a core dev and inventor of PoI) has been to conferences representing NEM and has been attending NEM meetups in Japan.  

Other people like myself also use real names too and also attend meetings and conferences.  

I had hosted two NEM meetups in my locale, but not advertised on Bitcointalk (people I networked with in crypto).  Last meetup had special guest who created first Doge ATM in whole world and knows a lot about crypto.  Meetup has a lot of beer and entertainment (playlist from YouTube  Shocked )

I also attended a Bitcoin meetup in Africa and will write an article on it(like one I wrote about Prague).  Maybe when NEM is a bigger name I'll publish for it too.   Grin

Jokingly I want to invite Spoetnik to a meetup but he lives 6 hours away in the desert  Cheesy  If crypto becomes bigger I'll need to host a troll convention  Shocked
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If anybody has a problem in opening wallet in NIS,
please check first whether notorious adware "TheHDvid-Codec V10" is in your PC.
In my case, this adware was a criminal.
I had a very hard time in opening wallet, but after cleaning this adware, became perfect!
"TheHDvid-Codec V 10" is very hard to eliminate,
please follow several step in following.
http://malwaretips.com/blogs/remove-thehdvid-codec-v10-virus/

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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
you are talking about an additional payout, next to harvesting? How much reward?

That's outlined in the rewards document.
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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
When should come out nem v1??

No one knows  Wink
It will probably take a substantial amount of time before we are there...
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I have already read. also i noticed that you have questions about the payouts. so devs should clarify this subject i think.

Here's the way I understand it.

You need 1 account hat holds at least 3 million XEM.
You need to active delegated harvesting for that account.
You need to boot your node with the remote-priv-key for that account
You need to send an unencrypted message "opt-in" from that account to NAFUNDBUKIOSTMD4BNXL7ZFE735QHN7A3FBS6CMY

That's all you need to do to set things up.

The whole thing is a lottery so there are no guaranteed fixed payouts but there will be many and regular lottery "draws" so most likely everyone will win at some point.

The whole aging thing is prob something noone needs to concern himself with. Best thing is to just set it up and then wait for rewards Smiley



you are talking about an additional payout, next to harvesting? How much reward?
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