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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1175. (Read 2985369 times)

hero member
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Question for discussion:

Should exchanges be allowed to harvest?

You can't stop anyone from harvesting. Each account makes it's own decision
From what i know from some poloniex mods, their contract prohibits harvesting
If poloniex is NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D then they are harvesting

It's their call no one can stop them. Although I must say I wouldn't do that...

If they really do, I hope they're doing it on some separate node, not on the node they use for getting information.
So exchanges are like banks then? Charge a fee to buy & sell and use the parked XEM for a high POI score so they can harvest blocks for the txs fees.

People hate banks for the profits they make off us but I guess it's ok for exchanges.

Well, this is a problem.
Many people send to Poloniex and increase her PoI. Already at 10%, no way to avoid this, ok?
it is possible attack the network with a significant amount of PoI?

Of course it's possible to attack the network if you have a higher POI score then the rest of the harvesters combined.
I mean I'm not a dev but I don't see why this would be different for POI than for POS, PoW or any other system.
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
Question for discussion:

Should exchanges be allowed to harvest?

You can't stop anyone from harvesting. Each account makes it's own decision
From what i know from some poloniex mods, their contract prohibits harvesting
If poloniex is NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D then they are harvesting

It's their call no one can stop them. Although I must say I wouldn't do that...

If they really do, I hope they're doing it on some separate node, not on the node they use for getting information.
So exchanges are like banks then? Charge a fee to buy & sell and use the parked XEM for a high POI score so they can harvest blocks for the txs fees.

People hate banks for the profits they make off us but I guess it's ok for exchanges.

Well, this is a problem.
Many people send to Poloniex and increase her PoI. Already at 10%, no way to avoid this, ok?
it is possible attack the network with a significant amount of PoI?

It's always a bad idea to leave your crypto's at exchanges for more time than you need to. People should know this. See my signature and you know what I mean.
Unfortunately this is a necessary evil. Is have no another marketplace better than Exchanges.
I lost that amount in Bter.

No it's not a necessary evil. Why would it be necessary for anyone to leave any coin on an exchange ?
If you want to sell something deposit the amount you want to sell on an exchange. Keep the rest in your wallet.

It's really baffling that people still keep coins on exchanges. How many compromised exchanges does it take for people to learn ? I guess always 1 more.
legendary
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Value will be measured in sats
Is the NIS down? since the update I can't connect Sad
sr. member
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NEM is... Never Ending Money.
sr. member
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trying to start delegated harvesting but gettingthis error :

ERROR 700

The provided account does not satisfy the basic criteria for harvesting. Mainly it is related to the amount of XEM within the account. Harvesting starts with at least 1000 XEM.

I have 300000 XEM in my wallet.

You get vested at 10% a day so tomorrow at this time you will have 30,000 vested and can harvest on that. The day after you'll have 57,000 vested and so on.

Thanks, for now i have 0 wasted. I will wait.
legendary
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mining is so 2012-2013
trying to start delegated harvesting but gettingthis error :

ERROR 700

The provided account does not satisfy the basic criteria for harvesting. Mainly it is related to the amount of XEM within the account. Harvesting starts with at least 1000 XEM.

I have 300000 XEM in my wallet.

Also, please try to make sure you have the latest update.

New version 0.6.28 available in our forum:

https://forum.ournem.com/technical-discussion/nem-beta-0-6-28/
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
trying to start delegated harvesting but gettingthis error :

ERROR 700

The provided account does not satisfy the basic criteria for harvesting. Mainly it is related to the amount of XEM within the account. Harvesting starts with at least 1000 XEM.

I have 300000 XEM in my wallet.

You get vested at 10% a day so tomorrow at this time you will have 30,000 vested and can harvest on that. The day after you'll have 57,000 vested and so on.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
we need to be listed on this:

"Genesis Trading, a wholly owned subsidiary of Digital Currency Group (DCG), allows investors to buy and sell large blocks of digital currencies, including bitcoin, litecoin and ripple, and follows strict AML/KYC procedures, according to O'Connor."

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113988/first-licensed-digital-currency-broker-dealer-genesis-trading-launches-in-the-us

This is pretty exiting news.

Before if a billionaire in Europe wanted to play around with Bitcoin and pick up a million dollars worth he has to buy them on Local Bitcoins or buy through some unregistered exchange in a shifty country.

Now that guy can pick up the coin through a fairly recognized and safe channel that speaks his language.

T - 10 and counting.
sr. member
Activity: 614
Merit: 254
trying to start delegated harvesting but gettingthis error :

ERROR 700

The provided account does not satisfy the basic criteria for harvesting. Mainly it is related to the amount of XEM within the account. Harvesting starts with at least 1000 XEM.

I have 300000 XEM in my wallet.
sr. member
Activity: 289
Merit: 250
Question for discussion:

Should exchanges be allowed to harvest?

You can't stop anyone from harvesting. Each account makes it's own decision
From what i know from some poloniex mods, their contract prohibits harvesting
If poloniex is NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D then they are harvesting

It's their call no one can stop them. Although I must say I wouldn't do that...

If they really do, I hope they're doing it on some separate node, not on the node they use for getting information.
So exchanges are like banks then? Charge a fee to buy & sell and use the parked XEM for a high POI score so they can harvest blocks for the txs fees.

People hate banks for the profits they make off us but I guess it's ok for exchanges.

Well, this is a problem.
Many people send to Poloniex and increase her PoI. Already at 10%, no way to avoid this, ok?
it is possible attack the network with a significant amount of PoI?
POI is not in percent but in permyriad.
Their POI is not 10.12 percent but 10.12 permyriad.
And 10.12 permyriad = 0.1012 percent.
legendary
Activity: 1418
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Some questions on the reddit thread of someone wants to answer?
http://www.reddit.com/r/OurNEM/comments/32yevb/max_number_of_harvesters_on_server_please_try/

Max number of harvesters on server, please try again later
What is the max number of harvesters allowed on NEM servers?
Also, this is a distributed blockchain platform, so I was surprised to see this message. Is NEM running on a few centrally controlled servers until post BETA where the development team will release the client software package to run on client and node PCs? Or will NEM core always be partly run on local servers?
legendary
Activity: 1700
Merit: 1075
Question for discussion:

Should exchanges be allowed to harvest?

You can't stop anyone from harvesting. Each account makes it's own decision
From what i know from some poloniex mods, their contract prohibits harvesting
If poloniex is NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D then they are harvesting

It's their call no one can stop them. Although I must say I wouldn't do that...

If they really do, I hope they're doing it on some separate node, not on the node they use for getting information.
So exchanges are like banks then? Charge a fee to buy & sell and use the parked XEM for a high POI score so they can harvest blocks for the txs fees.

People hate banks for the profits they make off us but I guess it's ok for exchanges.

Well, this is a problem.
Many people send to Poloniex and increase her PoI. Already at 10%, no way to avoid this, ok?
it is possible attack the network with a significant amount of PoI?

It's always a bad idea to leave your crypto's at exchanges for more time than you need to. People should know this. See my signature and you know what I mean.
Unfortunately this is a necessary evil. Is have no another marketplace better than Exchanges.
I lost that amount in Bter.
hero member
Activity: 808
Merit: 1011
Question for discussion:

Should exchanges be allowed to harvest?

You can't stop anyone from harvesting. Each account makes it's own decision
From what i know from some poloniex mods, their contract prohibits harvesting
If poloniex is NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D then they are harvesting

It's their call no one can stop them. Although I must say I wouldn't do that...

If they really do, I hope they're doing it on some separate node, not on the node they use for getting information.
So exchanges are like banks then? Charge a fee to buy & sell and use the parked XEM for a high POI score so they can harvest blocks for the txs fees.

People hate banks for the profits they make off us but I guess it's ok for exchanges.

Well, this is a problem.
Many people send to Poloniex and increase her PoI. Already at 10%, no way to avoid this, ok?
it is possible attack the network with a significant amount of PoI?

It's always a bad idea to leave your crypto's at exchanges for more time than you need to. People should know this. See my signature and you know what I mean.
legendary
Activity: 1775
Merit: 1032
Value will be measured in sats
@klintay: i guess they only list coins which have a big volume on other exchanges already.


Yeah true but it still worth a shot Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1700
Merit: 1075
Question for discussion:

Should exchanges be allowed to harvest?

You can't stop anyone from harvesting. Each account makes it's own decision
From what i know from some poloniex mods, their contract prohibits harvesting
If poloniex is NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D then they are harvesting

It's their call no one can stop them. Although I must say I wouldn't do that...

If they really do, I hope they're doing it on some separate node, not on the node they use for getting information.
So exchanges are like banks then? Charge a fee to buy & sell and use the parked XEM for a high POI score so they can harvest blocks for the txs fees.

People hate banks for the profits they make off us but I guess it's ok for exchanges.

Well, this is a problem.
Many people send to Poloniex and increase her PoI. Already at 10%, no way to avoid this, ok?
it is possible attack the network with a significant amount of PoI?
tyz
legendary
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Well, that would make a huge impact on the coin price. Look at the market cap of about 2 mln NEM currently have. This are peanuts for institutional investors, venture capitalists or even some rich nerds in the Silicon Valley. Just convince one of them and you will get a bigger impact on the price than being a part of such an investment program.

we need to be listed on this:

"Genesis Trading, a wholly owned subsidiary of Digital Currency Group (DCG), allows investors to buy and sell large blocks of digital currencies, including bitcoin, litecoin and ripple, and follows strict AML/KYC procedures, according to O'Connor."

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113988/first-licensed-digital-currency-broker-dealer-genesis-trading-launches-in-the-us

Thanks for posting the link to that article, if you can convince large institutional buyers to purchase XEM coins then you should be able to see the price of XEM trading up above the 6000 satoshi range. Right now, it cost about $1.4 million to purchase all XEM coins from previous stakeholders at around 70 satoshi per each XEM coin.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
we need to be listed on this:

"Genesis Trading, a wholly owned subsidiary of Digital Currency Group (DCG), allows investors to buy and sell large blocks of digital currencies, including bitcoin, litecoin and ripple, and follows strict AML/KYC procedures, according to O'Connor."

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113988/first-licensed-digital-currency-broker-dealer-genesis-trading-launches-in-the-us

Thanks for posting the link to that article, if you can convince large institutional buyers to purchase XEM coins then you should be able to see the price of XEM trading up above the 6000 satoshi range. Right now, it cost about $1.4 million to purchase all XEM coins from previous stakeholders at around 70 satoshi per each XEM coin.
hero member
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@klintay: i guess they only list coins which have a big volume on other exchanges already.
legendary
Activity: 1775
Merit: 1032
Value will be measured in sats
we need to be listed on this:

"Genesis Trading, a wholly owned subsidiary of Digital Currency Group (DCG), allows investors to buy and sell large blocks of digital currencies, including bitcoin, litecoin and ripple, and follows strict AML/KYC procedures, according to O'Connor."

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113988/first-licensed-digital-currency-broker-dealer-genesis-trading-launches-in-the-us
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