Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1337. (Read 2985623 times)

Your countdown is pretty funny :-)

Don't worry, we haven't forgotten you. You should get an answer today or tomorrow.

makoto please read your message i wrote you already 2 times

I haven't received a message or e-mail from UP since June and I don't have a way to contact him even if I wanted to.
So, no, there is no contact between UP and the dev team, even socially.

ah thanks pgb it was bugging me! ok I'll never mention him again ha ha

16 Days remain.

That was how he signed his PMs, I guess that's why ...

Why do all the NEM crew call him UP anyway?  Was it UtopianPhuture or something?

If you believe that you probably believe a few small fires caused WTC tower 7 to collapse on 911.



UP is still the leader of NEM

Trolls all life will remember Utopian Future because it for them an excellent subject trolling of NEM

He did issue a  stake to himself (he posted it in the forum that he wants a stake with that sock puppet, and issued it to himself).  This was verified back then.  He immediately deleted that name from the official Google doc list after he was caught., He also deleted his post from the forum. However, I was around back then, and I ASKED people to check the archive. I believe it was comefromabove who posted  proof from forum archive  that he issued the stake and later deleted the post after he was caught,

This should be all in my posting history.


 

He issued a nemstake on AE to his sock that was caught trolling simcoin. , Of course  he wasn't going to use that one anymore as he got caught with that ID. The point is that we really don't have any proof one way or another. However, I am pretty certain he issued more nemstakes on AE to himself.

Not sure what he meant by that.  There's anecdotal evidence of many people who were around back then and at the time I wasn't able to find Ghosthouse on the stakeholder list.  Also a lot of people, back then, had copies of the stakeholder list that went back months too.  I'll wait for Eadeqa to provide a link proving his assertion.


This is the same burden of proof reasoning (a logical fallacy) that people have been pulling for months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_burden_of_proof

Sure that works with drunks in the bar and kids in kindergarten but it would never hold up in a judicial court and would be thrown out.  




Not to turn Bitcointalk into Philosophy Logic 101 and those examples are exaggerated to make it obvious why the logic is wrong.  Most real burdens of proof are not as obvious like yellow polka dotted aliens (nor do they write: "Has anyone ever proven otherwise?") but on Bitcointalk they're frequent.

I know all nemstakes was transferred but before that happened  UP was the one sending out  nemstakes. Even UP's sockpuppet that was caught had a nemstake.

He mined those coins as there was  no one else around at that time. They were not premined.  1 million BTC will not kill bitcoin. They might temporarily  bring down prices, but the coins will be gobbled out by buyers really quickly.



There is no proof if BCnext cashed anything or if he still around with other names. You are a liar. Even though the code was immature, BCnext basic idea was sound and that's what Nem and all others  (i.e Node) copied. BCnext was founder of crypto 2.0


You are the same clown who was bragging for months how you guys did analysis that Nxt didn't, but as it turned out you missed out a guy with 200 accounts and many other (300+) sock puppets. I am pretty sure you still haven't caught many, and many others got away with it  on AE which was initially issued by  UtopianFuture.


His admission only came after he was caught. Big difference. He probably would have gotten away with it he wasn't trolling Simcoin with sock puppets. I am pretty sure he  is  still around as he he was the one issuing AE Nemstakes.

I think Satoshi is interesting as the inventor of the blockchain and is alleged to own a million Bitcoins and thus could kill this 'bitcoin experiment' overnight.  

BCnext, if you ignore the obvious forgery "BCnext's plan" (cult stuff like that is disturbing), shipped out a minimally developed project and cashed out his stake at the first opportunity and was never seen from again.  Not sure why people engage in revisionism over a guy who cut and fled.

UtopianFuture lost his organization stake and it wasn't just Patmast3r who did the sock analyses, so I doubt UF has an army of socks and that isn't what he admitted to (he admitted to creating few socks for advertising which is something you still see on BTT today). Again this is indicative of the revisionism you see among certain people in crypto currencies, where their minds invent a reality that never took place.


There's actually people on the core team and then stakeholders in general who would take UF back if he showed up.  UF isn't anyone here.  UF gave his email out to a lot of people (and registered it on a lot of sites) and it is back traceable to his linkedin and other social media account.   The only reason those people don't expose UF's info is because he'ld probably get death threats from Joshua Zeidner or the career criminals which frequent crypto currencies would try to extort him / blackmail for money he doesn't have.

Well said.

Even if it was true and UP once planned NEM as a scam project, he was not able to do it, because he left the project, handed over passwords etc. and has no vote in the core team.

I am also 99 % sure that he is around as a normal user, but obviously this cannot harm NEM and if I was him, I would be around as well, because this project turns out 500% better than he planned it.

Thanks to our core devs, they are outstanding.

Seems like some people here are striving hard to highjack the discussion and ignite some dramatic conspiracies. As was said several times, to our best knowledge UP has left the project and NEM has gone a long way since that moment. Through good and bad, after so much work, we are here now and are very close to beginning a critical new chapter of this project. This is why we're here, lets not forget that.

What is the story about UF and Quark? Is it true?

No. Yes.

Chatting.