Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1352. (Read 2985503 times)

I am going to agree, sock masters don't know how they were caught so there is no point in announcing it.  We need to wait until all the BTT late redeemers are in to make sure that none of them are cheats.

What if the sock master with 200 accounts found his lost list of an extra 100 that he wasn't able to redeem before?   It is unlikely, but we just don't know. 

I agree with you that probably some socks did slip through, and some people did definitely have two, but it wasn't nearly as many as what you would think.  I would love to go back and get two, but actually I just got one because back when it was time to register, I didn't know how awesome NEM would be.  And there were a lot of people just like me.

There are actually over 600 BTT users that only registered 1 account that made it through the very strict and extensive sock puppet hunt.  It was always clear all along that 2 accounts were okay, so we can think that most people just registered 1.  And while there definitely a lot of people that had two accounts and we all kind of think it is BS when somebody bought one for their "wife", there really will be people that bought 2 and one really was actually for a brother or coworker.  So just because somebody has 2, doesn't mean they are a sock (though I think most of the time they are. hahahaha)

Furthermore, that is just the BTT holders with 1 account, there are also over 500 unique NXT AE accounts.  And again, NXTers really have no reason to divide up accounts as it just makes things more difficult.  And it was told to them from near the start to not separate their stakes but to send them in together to make life easier for Pat.  Now, one problem with this is that some few people might have BTT and AE accounts, but again I think for most people it will be one or the other. 

So while there are probably some really smart and tricky sock masters that got through and some people got 2, they actually won't be that many.  In addition, there will be lots of BTT holders that missed their chance to register earlier but will redeem at launch.  Again, we can assume that most of these are people with one account that didn't know how to register or didn't get the notice to register.   When the sock master's registered, they obviously registered all their accounts.  

So, considering these things I am pretty sure that there are well over 1,000 unique users in NEM.  

I think that was a Freudian slip there Kodtycoon.   Maybe you meant "relationship". hahahaha

hahahaha.  I was busy at work last night, went to sleep, get home from work today and see that this thread exploded.   Not sure where to start. 

We should add fireworks to Error 500! 

Amazing progress!

Great to have watched this one unfold. True to their words and really doing something special. On a league of its own.

Much respect

<3

700 pages  



The NEM launch is right around the corner, so I hope everyone is ready! I suggested you go run our client and make sure you know what you are doing before everything gets real:
http://bob.nem.ninja/installer/

With an equal and fair distribution, we can all work together to build a new economy. We have the potential to really do a lot of good in this world.

In this case, post count is a fair approximation for a proof of work 
People who have only 1 post in the past year are not likely to be real people. And if they are, then they are even less likely to be able to contribute anything to NEM.

There will be a thread created on our forums for handling complaints, just like before, so please wait for that.

Even if this were a con, conned out of what?  .0065 BTC or whatever the paltry amount was at the time?  $6 USD (MAYBE?).  You're a fucking dumbass.  The ETH crowd, well, that's another story   .  Those chumps got hosed.

is the nem relationship with nxt?
are they the same owner?

No, such holders were not kicked out. Your account might have been incorrectly assessed, that's it.
600 holders seem to have registered one stake.

Well they actually kicked out today the ones who registered two accounts from the same household so it might be higher.

This isn't true, as each person was allowed to register two accounts, so the number of  unique stakeholders drops. Also, many sock puppet did slip through when they were given AE stakes.  I think the real number of unique  users is less than 500

There is still the extended redemption of two months. It does not make any sense to release an analysis publication until the extended redemption is over (2 months after launch), otherwise it would give those people between 2 months to a year from today (after reading said publication) to find ways to circumvent detection.


As for the extended redemption - absolutely in no circumstance should it be processed by a per person basis.   NEM should only sent until after the two months are over and Patmast3r had time to look at all the late redemption requests and conduct sock analysis.  If that isn't done then I would be highly suspicious of this coin as most definitely sock masters would pass through if it was like: *Applies and gets coins within 20 seconds with no analysis*

thx!

yes, just watch out, as extended redemption will be two months max. If you'll miss it there'll be no one to help you

Is this still valid? quoting patmast3r: "If you haven't completed phase 1 in time then you'll have to wait for the extended redemption after launch."

https://forum.nemcoin.com/nem-news-alerts/updated-redemption-guide/msg8975/#msg8975

I have a btt-token but have not registered since I read above info earlier. So I'm not on this list https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/

The rule was that 2 stakes could be purchased from a household, one for yourself and one for your family member. That rule never changed, and I agree with you that someone who claims to have bought stakes for 2+ of their family members should have the extra stakes erased. However, only two stakes were purchased from our household and my stake was deleted, which I think is extremely strange considering what the rules are.

A long time ago when a chap registered 5 accounts, you know for his 5 brothers and sisters, he would have told them that each would get 1 million NEM.  


Luckily, the about of XEM has increased.  So if I have two accounts under my name, then with 2 account a person will still get 4,450,000 XEM.  That of course isn't a 5,000,000 XEM.  But if your 5 brothers and sisters only have a BTT account with 2 posts each, I'm going to assume that they don't know that the stakes were increased.  So it is still in the power of the sockmaster's ability to give his 5 bothers and sisters 1,000,000 XEM per person.  

But lets be real.  That isn't going to happen, because nobody's 5 brothers and sisters were like.... "please, please get me some NEM."  The thing that happened is people were just trying to game the system.  "I'll register 5 and say it was for my brothers and sisters," type of thing.