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I hope it will stay 4B coins and not 8B.

That is too much.

Well any number can be used. As I understand, the community is concerned by the use of 4 because in the Asian countries this is considered as the unlucky number. This is not naive and should be taken into consideration very much. We want our Asian friends with us and not against us, after all this is a huge, huge market that we don't want to lose. Look what they did to BTC in the last pump, took it from $200 to $1200 in a month.

I would make it nice and round 5B coins. Just multiply everybody's stake by 1.25. Heck, we can even make it 2B, just divide everybody's stake by 2.

But please, keep in mind that "unlucky No. 4" of the Eastern cultures!!  Smiley

That's right.
A good friend of mine comes from china. She really hates the number 4, 444, 478 etcetera for pronouncing reasons. The pronounciation of 4 means something equal to death.  A lot of early stakeholders and possible investors after launch come from china.

Anyway we should stay close to our aimed 4B. E.g. 3.999.999.999.

just burn one nem after launch.. it will then say 3,999,xxbla bla on CMC. problem solved. Smiley

If the burning of one NEM is so easy to adopt we should definitively do it.  Wink
(just my opinion)
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Move On !!!!!!
I hope it will stay 4B coins and not 8B.

That is too much.

Well any number can be used. As I understand, the community is concerned by the use of 4 because in the Asian countries this is considered as the unlucky number. This is not naive and should be taken into consideration very much. We want our Asian friends with us and not against us, after all this is a huge, huge market that we don't want to lose. Look what they did to BTC in the last pump, took it from $200 to $1200 in a month.

I would make it nice and round 5B coins. Just multiply everybody's stake by 1.25. Heck, we can even make it 2B, just divide everybody's stake by 2.

But please, keep in mind that "unlucky No. 4" of the Eastern cultures!!  Smiley

That's right.
A good friend of mine comes from china. She really hates the number 4, 478 etcetera for pronouncing reasons. The pronounciation of 4 means something equal to death.  A lot of early stakeholders and possible investors after launch come from china.

Anyway we should stay close to our aimed 4B. E.g. 3.999.999.999.


3.999.999.999 will work as well.. I see no 4 there.. Smiley
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I hope it will stay 4B coins and not 8B.

That is too much.

Well any number can be used. As I understand, the community is concerned by the use of 4 because in the Asian countries this is considered as the unlucky number. This is not naive and should be taken into consideration very much. We want our Asian friends with us and not against us, after all this is a huge, huge market that we don't want to lose. Look what they did to BTC in the last pump, took it from $200 to $1200 in a month.

I would make it nice and round 5B coins. Just multiply everybody's stake by 1.25. Heck, we can even make it 2B, just divide everybody's stake by 2.

But please, keep in mind that "unlucky No. 4" of the Eastern cultures!!  Smiley

That's right.
A good friend of mine comes from china. She really hates the number 4, 444, 478 etcetera for pronouncing reasons. The pronounciation of 4 means something equal to death.  A lot of early stakeholders and possible investors after launch come from china.

Anyway we shouldn't double the amount of NEM and stay close to the aimed 4B. E.g. 3.999.999.999.
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uhm...but after the official release, does NEM can be traded directly with BTC?

no one know the answer to this question? Sad

The answer is pretty obvious *YES*

Of course that the answer is YES!! After the launch, the coin will be added to the many exchanges. There you will be able to trade it to BTC..

I hope that the DEVs are already lining up some exchanges so the NEM can be added right away. This is what BTSX did with their coin upon the launch. They were added to Bter and BTC38 immediately.

We have to do the same for a successful start of NEM.
The more exchanges are aware of NEM the more people are aware of NEM and its benefits.
Finally this will increase the value of NEM and therefore NEM will attract also the sceptic people who didn't believe in NEM in the beginning.


hero member
Activity: 798
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Move On !!!!!!
I hope it will stay 4B coins and not 8B.

That is too much.

Well any number can be used. As I understand, the community is concerned by the use of 4 because in the Asian countries this is considered as the unlucky number. This is not naive and should be taken into consideration very much. We want our Asian friends with us and not against us, after all this is a huge, huge market that we don't want to lose. Look what they did to BTC in the last pump, took it from $200 to $1200 in a month.

I would make it nice and round 5B coins. Just multiply everybody's stake by 1.25. Heck, we can even make it 2B, just divide everybody's stake by 2.

But please, keep in mind that "unlucky No. 4" of the Eastern cultures!!  Smiley
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I hope it will stay 4B coins and not 8B.

That is too much.
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Beta launch is coming nearer and nearer, here is your chance to get a nemesis account in the beta nemesis block:

https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2526.0

what's nemesis? Huh

what's usually called genesis block i.e. the very first block of the blockchain.
for NEM it's NEMesis.

No, it doesn't make much sense but it sounds cool Cool
anyway cool for our community of nem,
and it is good news  for the ETA launch.
hero member
Activity: 798
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Beta launch is coming nearer and nearer, here is your chance to get a nemesis account in the beta nemesis block:

https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2526.0

what's nemesis? Huh

what's usually called genesis block i.e. the very first block of the blockchain.
for NEM it's NEMesis.

No, it doesn't make much sense but it sounds cool Cool

Thanks, I thought it was a coin sister NEM
hero member
Activity: 980
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Beta launch is coming nearer and nearer, here is your chance to get a nemesis account in the beta nemesis block:

https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2526.0

what's nemesis? Huh

what's usually called genesis block i.e. the very first block of the blockchain.
for NEM it's NEMesis.

No, it doesn't make much sense but it sounds cool Cool
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Beta launch is coming nearer and nearer, here is your chance to get a nemesis account in the beta nemesis block:

https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2526.0

what's nemesis? Huh
legendary
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Hi NEM community !

Grin
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Seems like Java 8 is officially supported now which will make the installation of the nem client via webstart way more comfortable.

Thanks Oracle Smiley

Oracle? Who are you talking about? The Oracles of NEM that Java 8 will be released officially in time? Wink

Our Oracles of NEM planned it. Smiley
This is great news. I used to think that the use of Java 8 was NEM's greatest weakness, but this changes everything. I pretty much assumed that not many would have bothered to install unsupported Java version for a new coin only.
legendary
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Seems like Java 8 is officially supported now which will make the installation of the nem client via webstart way more comfortable.

Thanks Oracle Smiley

Oracle? Who are you talking about? The Oracles of NEM that Java 8 will be released officially in time? Wink

Our Oracles of NEM planned it. Smiley
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Do you really want the number 4 billion?  4 means death in a lot of cultures.

It's true.
Especially in China, 4 is the worst number.
It equals to the 13th Friday in Western.

Edit/I basically agree to investment fund.
But it may have a problem of a lawsuit by stakeholders who did not receive coins in the future when NEM value is incredibly high.
Burning them erases this problem in advance.
Burning them will prevent this probable lawsuit and also result in investment fund increase in the end.(by the scarcity of NEM and high value of each NEM.)

what about 3,999,000,000?  we could just burn one stake, or maybe even burn one NEM, and have it be 3,999,999,999.  I personally would volunteer 1 of my NEM to be burnt pre-Genesis block, just to make Asians happy.  I do know that this is serious.  I once lived in a building with no 4th floor.  Really, the elevator went 1, 2, 3, 5, 6..... People take this seriously. Not exactly the mark of the beast for Christians, but many Asians really don't like 4.  

Are we considering changing the total to something other than 4 billion units?
 
What about 3,888,888,888?

It has three triple 8's in sequence. In the Chinese culture this would be very fortunate.

"In Chinese numerology, 888 has a different meaning, triple fortune, a strengthening of the meaning of the digit 8. For this reason, addresses
and phone numbers containing the digit sequence 888 are considered particularly lucky, and may command a premium because of it."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/888_(number)

Lucky numbers: Eight
"The number 8 is viewed as such an auspicious number that even being assigned a number with several eights is considered very lucky."

Unlucky numbers: Four
"Number 4 is considered an unlucky number in Chinese because it is nearly homophonous to the word "death". Due to that, many
numbered product lines skip the "4": e.g., Nokia cell phones (there is no series beginning with a 4), Palm PDAs, Canon PowerShot G's
series (after G3 goes G5), etc. In East Asia, some buildings do not have a 4th floor."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture


The number 4 is omitted in some Chinese buildings.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/ShanghaiMissingFloors.jpg

China= 19% of the world's population.
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population

We would need to subtract 111,111,112 NEM (~111 stakes).

If we want to keep it closer to the original 4 billion, a couple more choices:
3,999,888,888 double triple 8's (-111,112 NEM)
3,999,999,888 single triple 8's (-112 NEM)

Or preferably just keep with the original 4,000,000,000, it's easier to remember.


Yes 3,888,888,888 is a good number and it wouldn't take much to discard to reach.  You wouldn't see that number on coinmarketcap but it's something which could be mentioned in media articles for sure.  

I'm not really sure what's happening in mainland China in regards to digital currencies.

  We know elsewhere that digital currencies are becoming popular in Hong Kong and Vietnam.   NEM is something that could thrive in those two locations but also mainland China and island of Taiwan.  Eventually South Korea and Japan will get into digital currencies as well.  

Despite MtGox being located there, Bitcoin hasn't really seen much adoption or usage in Japan itself - the emerging trend in Japan is Mona coin (that was $8 million at one  point and almost entirely located within Japan) and maybe NEM could get popular over there.



Creating 8 billion NEM might be good, too. 8 is a good number and everyone's stake could just be doubled.

8 billion NEM is also good, representing 8 billion humans.

"According to the most recent United Nations estimates, the human population of the world is expected to reach 8 billion people in the spring of 2024."
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/#milestones

In 10 years there will be 8 billion humans, that's around the same time when NEM is predicted to totally replace the worlds fiat system. Smiley

If you really care about the number of NEM, why don't you start a poll and discussion thread here: https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php

That way people can vote and comment on the idea.

Now we are talking about re-coding this shit because of superstition? You are kidding me? This coin is NEVER getting released...  Cheesy
legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
Do you really want the number 4 billion?  4 means death in a lot of cultures.

It's true.
Especially in China, 4 is the worst number.
It equals to the 13th Friday in Western.

Edit/I basically agree to investment fund.
But it may have a problem of a lawsuit by stakeholders who did not receive coins in the future when NEM value is incredibly high.
Burning them erases this problem in advance.
Burning them will prevent this probable lawsuit and also result in investment fund increase in the end.(by the scarcity of NEM and high value of each NEM.)

what about 3,999,000,000?  we could just burn one stake, or maybe even burn one NEM, and have it be 3,999,999,999.  I personally would volunteer 1 of my NEM to be burnt pre-Genesis block, just to make Asians happy.  I do know that this is serious.  I once lived in a building with no 4th floor.  Really, the elevator went 1, 2, 3, 5, 6..... People take this seriously. Not exactly the mark of the beast for Christians, but many Asians really don't like 4.  

Are we considering changing the total to something other than 4 billion units?
 
What about 3,888,888,888?

It has three triple 8's in sequence. In the Chinese culture this would be very fortunate.

"In Chinese numerology, 888 has a different meaning, triple fortune, a strengthening of the meaning of the digit 8. For this reason, addresses
and phone numbers containing the digit sequence 888 are considered particularly lucky, and may command a premium because of it."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/888_(number)

Lucky numbers: Eight
"The number 8 is viewed as such an auspicious number that even being assigned a number with several eights is considered very lucky."

Unlucky numbers: Four
"Number 4 is considered an unlucky number in Chinese because it is nearly homophonous to the word "death". Due to that, many
numbered product lines skip the "4": e.g., Nokia cell phones (there is no series beginning with a 4), Palm PDAs, Canon PowerShot G's
series (after G3 goes G5), etc. In East Asia, some buildings do not have a 4th floor."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture


The number 4 is omitted in some Chinese buildings.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/ShanghaiMissingFloors.jpg

China= 19% of the world's population.
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population

We would need to subtract 111,111,112 NEM (~111 stakes).

If we want to keep it closer to the original 4 billion, a couple more choices:
3,999,888,888 double triple 8's (-111,112 NEM)
3,999,999,888 single triple 8's (-112 NEM)

Or preferably just keep with the original 4,000,000,000, it's easier to remember.


Yes 3,888,888,888 is a good number and it wouldn't take much to discard to reach.  You wouldn't see that number on coinmarketcap but it's something which could be mentioned in media articles for sure.  

I'm not really sure what's happening in mainland China in regards to digital currencies.

  We know elsewhere that digital currencies are becoming popular in Hong Kong and Vietnam.   NEM is something that could thrive in those two locations but also mainland China and island of Taiwan.  Eventually South Korea and Japan will get into digital currencies as well.  

Despite MtGox being located there, Bitcoin hasn't really seen much adoption or usage in Japan itself - the emerging trend in Japan is Mona coin (that was $8 million at one  point and almost entirely located within Japan) and maybe NEM could get popular over there.



Creating 8 billion NEM might be good, too. 8 is a good number and everyone's stake could just be doubled.

8 billion NEM is also good, representing 8 billion humans.

"According to the most recent United Nations estimates, the human population of the world is expected to reach 8 billion people in the spring of 2024."
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/#milestones

In 10 years there will be 8 billion humans, that's around the same time when NEM is predicted to totally replace the worlds fiat system. Smiley

If you really care about the number of NEM, why don't you start a poll and discussion thread here: https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php

That way people can vote and comment on the idea.
legendary
Activity: 1596
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
Seems like Java 8 is officially supported now which will make the installation of the nem client via webstart way more comfortable.

Thanks Oracle Smiley

Mac installer works, but does give a null pointer error msg, which ignoring seems to be fine.
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Activity: 169
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Do you really want the number 4 billion?  4 means death in a lot of cultures.

It's true.
Especially in China, 4 is the worst number.
It equals to the 13th Friday in Western.

Edit/I basically agree to investment fund.
But it may have a problem of a lawsuit by stakeholders who did not receive coins in the future when NEM value is incredibly high.
Burning them erases this problem in advance.
Burning them will prevent this probable lawsuit and also result in investment fund increase in the end.(by the scarcity of NEM and high value of each NEM.)

what about 3,999,000,000?  we could just burn one stake, or maybe even burn one NEM, and have it be 3,999,999,999.  I personally would volunteer 1 of my NEM to be burnt pre-Genesis block, just to make Asians happy.  I do know that this is serious.  I once lived in a building with no 4th floor.  Really, the elevator went 1, 2, 3, 5, 6..... People take this seriously. Not exactly the mark of the beast for Christians, but many Asians really don't like 4.  

Are we considering changing the total to something other than 4 billion units?
 
What about 3,888,888,888?

It has three triple 8's in sequence. In the Chinese culture this would be very fortunate.

"In Chinese numerology, 888 has a different meaning, triple fortune, a strengthening of the meaning of the digit 8. For this reason, addresses
and phone numbers containing the digit sequence 888 are considered particularly lucky, and may command a premium because of it."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/888_(number)

Lucky numbers: Eight
"The number 8 is viewed as such an auspicious number that even being assigned a number with several eights is considered very lucky."

Unlucky numbers: Four
"Number 4 is considered an unlucky number in Chinese because it is nearly homophonous to the word "death". Due to that, many
numbered product lines skip the "4": e.g., Nokia cell phones (there is no series beginning with a 4), Palm PDAs, Canon PowerShot G's
series (after G3 goes G5), etc. In East Asia, some buildings do not have a 4th floor."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture


The number 4 is omitted in some Chinese buildings.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/ShanghaiMissingFloors.jpg

China= 19% of the world's population.
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population

We would need to subtract 111,111,112 NEM (~111 stakes).

If we want to keep it closer to the original 4 billion, a couple more choices:
3,999,888,888 double triple 8's (-111,112 NEM)
3,999,999,888 single triple 8's (-112 NEM)

Or preferably just keep with the original 4,000,000,000, it's easier to remember.


Yes 3,888,888,888 is a good number and it wouldn't take much to discard to reach.  You wouldn't see that number on coinmarketcap but it's something which could be mentioned in media articles for sure.  

I'm not really sure what's happening in mainland China in regards to digital currencies.

  We know elsewhere that digital currencies are becoming popular in Hong Kong and Vietnam.   NEM is something that could thrive in those two locations but also mainland China and island of Taiwan.  Eventually South Korea and Japan will get into digital currencies as well.  

Despite MtGox being located there, Bitcoin hasn't really seen much adoption or usage in Japan itself - the emerging trend in Japan is Mona coin (that was $8 million at one  point and almost entirely located within Japan) and maybe NEM could get popular over there.



Creating 8 billion NEM might be good, too. 8 is a good number and everyone's stake could just be doubled.

8 billion NEM is also good, representing 8 billion humans.

"According to the most recent United Nations estimates, the human population of the world is expected to reach 8 billion people in the spring of 2024."
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/#milestones

In 10 years there will be 8 billion humans, that's around the same time when NEM is predicted to totally replace the worlds fiat system. Smiley
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Pack the NEM video with some paltry prank and billions of views are sure thing  Cheesy

For a beginning, just make a video with A. Hitler thinking about repeating the PnD scheme buying cheap, pumping price and trying to dump... Mein Führer... the NEM... is not pumpable at all. There are thousands of initial owners and you cant manipulate the price at all.

+1   LOL
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Pack the NEM video with some paltry prank and billions of views are sure thing  Cheesy

For a beginning, just make a video with A. Hitler thinking about repeating the PnD scheme buying cheap, pumping price and trying to dump... Mein Führer... the NEM... is not pumpable at all. There are thousands of initial owners and you cant manipulate the price at all.
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This is mainly about Bitcoin, but really NEM as a 2nd generation crypto currency is being built from the ground up to do just these types of things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIVAluSL9SU&feature=youtube_gdata&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

That can be an example of Bitcoin marketing but as you noticed it has only had 10,000 views.  We can assume that most of these 10,000 are already current users of Bitcoin.

The big leap for digital currencies is these some 500K-2M users around the world when the internet back in 1989 had 3+ million users.  YouTube has not yet proven to be an effective marketing medium for digital currencies to approach the masses.  

The most popular Bitcoin video is the "What is Bitcoin" at 6 million views over 3 years.. this is terrible..

That guy in Poland with the Spider Dog Prank has had 100 million views in under 30 days.  There's people who can get millions of views overnight on YouTube.  So the Bitcoin promotion on YouTube has been largely unsuccessful.

I don't think you can bribe YouTube celebrities, either.  I think if NEM wanted to go down the video route then you need to look at YouTube's compensation package and match their compensation or exceed them.


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   #41: TimothyDeLaGhetto – $1 million (578 million total video views)
    #40: SHAYTARDS – $1 million (1.01 billion views)
    #39: Shane Dawson – $1 million (1.1 billion views)
    #38: TheRadBrad – $1 million (1.03b views)
    #37: ElRubiusOMG – $1.1 million (917m views)
    #36: Vsauce – $1.2 million (656 million views)
    #35: EvanTubeHD – $1.3 million (766 million views)
    #34: PrankvsPrank – $1.3 million (788m views)
    #33: EpicMealTime – $1.3 million (721m views)
    #32: FPSRussia – $1.3 million (600m views)
    #31: MichellePhan – $1.3 million (985m views)
    #30: TheDiamondMinecart – $1.4 million (1.01b views)
    #29: Potemi926 – $1.6 million (655m views)
    #28: Vegetta777 – $1.6 million (1.1b views)
    #27: WhiteBoy7thst – $1.7 million (609m views)
    #26: TheLonelyIsland – $1.7 million (1.4 billion views)
    #25: Sxephil – $1.7 million (1.27b views)
    #24: FreddieW – $1.8 million (1 billion views)
    #23: SpeedyW03 – $2 million (943m views)
    #22: TheBajanCanadian – $2 million (817m views)
    #21: HolaSoyGerman – $2 million (1.3b views)
    #20: TheWillyRex – $2 million (838m views)
    #19: Tobuscus – $2 million (1.02b views)
    #18: TheFineBros – $2.2 million (1.9b views)
    #17: AdamThomasMoran – $2.2 million (703m views)
    #16: SkyDoesMinecraft – $2.3 million (2.1b views)
    #15: BoyceAvenue – $2.3 million (1.4b views)
    #14: Nigahiga – $2.3 million (1.8b views)
    #13: ERB – $2.4 million (1.1b views)
    #12: CaptainSparklez – $3.2 million (1.5b views)
    #11: CollegeHumor – $3.3 million (2.7b views)
    #10: RealAnnoyingOrange – $3.4 million (2.1b views)
    #9: UberHaxorNova – $3.5 million (1.3b views)
    #8: RayWilliamJohnson – $4 million (2.7b views)
    #7: TobyGames – $4.2 million (1.7b views)
    #6: JennaMarbles – $4.3 million (1.5b views)
    #5: BluCollection – $4.8 million (1.78b views)
    #4: DisneyCollectorBR – $5 million (2.6b views)
    #3: Smosh – $5.7 million (3.4b views)
    #2: BlueXephos – $6.7 million (2.4b views)
    #1: Pewdiepie – $7 million (5.4b views)



They are paid $25 per 1000 people who click on an advertisement.

In this circumstance if somebody can create NEM videos and they get 800 million views, then they can get their $1 million from YouTube and an additional $1 million from the NEM promotion fund.. and they would deserve it, I don't think any other sort of promotion would be as cost-effective as something reaching 800 million people.

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