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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1760. (Read 2985503 times)

legendary
Activity: 1059
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Sorry for extra post but i noticed an important thing - the stakeholder list is not working, look at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=10 it gives error code... All links to google docs published in many threads and at NEM website give error code.

I don't know where you got the url, but try this : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
legendary
Activity: 1059
Merit: 1016
Bitcoin has a problem in his future - its not a green currency at all, it consumes too much energy and computing sources, there is a good gap for all PoI networks. The success of PoI based transaction network is determined by 3 things:

1) stability
2) publicity
3) sustainability

If all 3 points will be valid, there will be no reason to replace PoI in future (and there will be enough hope that PoI will be the "last" step for many years solving all imperfections of BTC PoW concept). BTC (with its old PoW concept generally) is so much successfull because it is (almost technically) stable, has a good publicity and was sustainable (and will be until it will become unpopular due to big energy and resource demand - it consumes really horrible amount of energy and production resources).
There is no reason to think about bitcoin demission and it wouldnt bring anything positive for market in general. Its comparable to MMORPG games, old concept may coexist with new concepts and be relativelly independent, however only new concept will grow up, the old one will stagnate and being slowly demised for many years (look at world of warcraft as an old obsolete concept vs. new 3D action MMORPG simulators like world of tanks or war thunder). Now compare it with crypto.

WoW = BTC, first concept, had many epigons (crypto: all PoW shitcoins and "altcoins"), many of them got some community and survived but never succeeded because they have brought nothing really new or innovative.
WoT, WT = 2nd generation crypto. Projects with good innovation based on another game engine (in crypto another crypto algoritm and transaction network), another community, absolutelly different mechanics etc. and they are absolutelly independent on other projects. There is a big competition between WT and WoT (same like there is a competition between PoS currencies) because they are similar in its own generation and used by similar community.

The only question is how will be NEM going in future. Concept is good, idea excellent, question is what about the people behind it and technical backup. The crypto in general is fragmented into many projects which go nowhere or just have no credibility. This may be also good for PoI / NEM because there is a big hole waiting for anything what will fill it up.

What i really miss for now is a propagation which /my 2cent/ is a bit underestimated and below expectations adequate to initial distribution and development. Sometimes is being a little quiet more healthy and better than loudly empty promises and PnD which we know from other projects and "projects", however there are some questions which need to be solved faster than it happened. E. G. the trademark or logo - without this i cant e. g. wear a T-Shirt with NEM logo because it may be changed again. Thats are the small details which may lose the war...

WoW and Wot, WT are all the same things, i.e., about games.

PoI is only an incidental, but important component of NEM. NEM is NOT ONLY just a coin. Being a coin is only good for what it is. NEM is a platform, an ecosystem that survives on its own economy. As an example, one can make use of the NEM infrastructure to issue their own coins for their own uses. If you are some games developer you may want to have a special token for your game and you may not want to build your own altcoin which is not your focus. You can then make use of NEM's platform to issue your own coins. Leave the rest of the harvesting (mining) to the NEM community to manage that for you.

Consequently, your community of game players can then propagate it among themselves. There is also a possibility that your coin has some value and therefore can be traded with other game coins or altcoins or even exchange for real money in an exchange (e.g., using AltNemo's FTE).

Logo has already been decided. Trademark is not part of a decentralized movement, I am afraid. The word protectionism does not exist in a crypto initiative unless it is a private entity (which is a centralized entity).

Nxt and NEM are in a different league compared with all the other altcoins, including Bitcoins. Some of them are niche while some of them have their own purpose. But if there is no ecosystem on a coin's use, it will not survive long.
sr. member
Activity: 797
Merit: 251
Sorry for extra post but i noticed an important thing - the stakeholder list is not working, look at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=10 it gives error code... All links to google docs published in many threads and at NEM website give error code.
sr. member
Activity: 797
Merit: 251
Bitcoin has a problem in his future - its not a green currency at all, it consumes too much energy and computing sources, there is a good gap for all PoI networks. The success of PoI based transaction network is determined by 3 things:

1) stability
2) publicity
3) sustainability

If all 3 points will be valid, there will be no reason to replace PoI in future (and there will be enough hope that PoI will be the "last" step for many years solving all imperfections of BTC PoW concept). BTC (with its old PoW concept generally) is so much successfull because it is (almost technically) stable, has a good publicity and was sustainable (and will be until it will become unpopular due to big energy and resource demand - it consumes really horrible amount of energy and production resources).
There is no reason to think about bitcoin demission and it wouldnt bring anything positive for market in general. Its comparable to MMORPG games, old concept may coexist with new concepts and be relativelly independent, however only new concept will grow up, the old one will stagnate and being slowly demised for many years (look at world of warcraft as an old obsolete concept vs. new 3D action MMORPG simulators like world of tanks or war thunder). Now compare it with crypto.

WoW = BTC, first concept, had many epigons (crypto: all PoW shitcoins and "altcoins"), many of them got some community and survived but never succeeded because they have brought nothing really new or innovative.
WoT, WT = 2nd generation crypto. Projects with good innovation based on another game engine (in crypto another crypto algoritm and transaction network), another community, absolutelly different mechanics etc. and they are absolutelly independent on other projects. There is a big competition between WT and WoT (same like there is a competition between PoS currencies) because they are similar in its own generation and used by similar community.

The only question is how will be NEM going in future. Concept is good, idea excellent, question is what about the people behind it and technical backup. The crypto in general is fragmented into many projects which go nowhere or just have no credibility. This may be also good for PoI / NEM because there is a big hole waiting for anything what will fill it up.

What i really miss for now is a propagation which /my 2cent/ is a bit underestimated and below expectations adequate to initial distribution and development. Sometimes is being a little quiet more healthy and better than loudly empty promises and PnD which we know from other projects and "projects", however there are some questions which need to be solved faster than it happened. E. G. the trademark or logo - without this i cant e. g. wear a T-Shirt with NEM logo because it may be changed again. Thats are the small details which may lose the war...
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
My Head is a Ritz
Im interested in buying a little too. how can I set buy order at the asset exchange


This is the easiest way: http://news.nemcoin.com/buy-nemstake-with-bitcoin/

www.secureae.com
sr. member
Activity: 315
Merit: 250
Im interested in buying a little too. how can I set buy order at the asset exchange
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1041
Bitcoin is a bit**
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
how much NEM can I get with 5k NXT Smiley on asset xchng
hero member
Activity: 593
Merit: 500
1NoBanksLuJPXf8Sc831fPqjrRpkQPKkEA
Got my NEM token on asset exchange. I will try to increase my stake by trading 0.1 of the token.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 501
1000% ROI Masternode Coin
I would like to invite all of you to join in for choosing the NEM currency symbol http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2349.0.
What do you think about this one?



How about:
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Regarding the discussion about the currency symbol, I'll copy and paste what I wrote on the NEM forums here for everyone to discuss.

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Theoretically a vote should not cause any drama. The majority wins, end of story. This is how a democratic system works. However, with that being said, having a community vote on something like this may be flawed, and I will explain why.

I've seen many other cryptocurrencies voting on things related to design and aesthetics. However, the reality is that most people here and in general have no experience in this field. Art and design is a specialized field, just like anything else. Having a vote on something like a logo or a currency symbol is something that should be left up to a trusted professional. Otherwise, it would be like voting on specific changes to the codebase when the majority of the community does not even know the first thing about coding.

Many people refuse to believe that art/design is something that can only be done by a professional. Everyone thinks they just inherently know what looks good and what does not, but that simply is not true. I feel that any decision for NEM related to design aesthetics be left to a trusted professional in that field, or at least someone who has demonstrated that they have the knowledge required to make those decisions. People are always going to complain about such a decision because it does not fit what they feel looks good in their eyes. But those are untrained eyes, and such an opinion should be completely disregarded (at least, that's how I feel about it).

I only say this as someone who has a faint background in art and design (I am an artist in my spare time and have a bit of formal training), and I know all too well how people without the requisite training can be severely misguided in terms of what makes an effective design and what does not.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. If the community would prefer to have a vote for this sort of thing, then that is not my decision to make. Just wanted to throw my thoughts into the mix. Smiley
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 501
1000% ROI Masternode Coin
I would like to invite all of you to join in for choosing the NEM currency symbol http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2349.0.
What do you think about this one?


I have seen it before, probably copyrighted

@ end of the acticle  http://nfctimes.com/report/nfc-marks-multiply-doubts-persist-over-nfc-forum-touchpoint

No NFC is this http://nfctimes.com/sites/default/files/nfc_forum_n-mark-3.jpg
Maybe we can give that one a little bit of our NEM twist?

how about a little cube.  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
I would like to invite all of you to join in for choosing the NEM currency symbol http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2349.0.
What do you think about this one?


I have seen it before, probably copyrighted

@ end of the acticle  http://nfctimes.com/report/nfc-marks-multiply-doubts-persist-over-nfc-forum-touchpoint

No NFC is this http://nfctimes.com/sites/default/files/nfc_forum_n-mark-3.jpg
Maybe we can give that one a little bit of our NEM twist?
sr. member
Activity: 452
Merit: 250
I would like to invite all of you to join in for choosing the NEM currency symbol http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2349.0.
What do you think about this one?


I have seen it before, probably copyrighted

@ end of the acticle  http://nfctimes.com/report/nfc-marks-multiply-doubts-persist-over-nfc-forum-touchpoint
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
I would like to invite all of you to join in for choosing the NEM currency symbol http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2349.0.
What do you think about this one?
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
My Head is a Ritz
WOW didn't think that would be coming, wonder if it's legit.
I find the theory that it's an inside job by GMX very interesting.


So the release is planned on october?
I'm already waiting half of a year.  Undecided

Can you tell, what exactly are you waiting on?


+1 Gimre
legendary
Activity: 866
Merit: 1002
So the release is planned on october?
I'm already waiting half of a year.  Undecided

Can you tell, what exactly are you waiting on?
hero member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 565
So the release is planned on october?
I'm already waiting half of a year.  Undecided

open beta or a "true" 1.0 release?
True release expected to be sometime in November. Coin Distribution sometime in the third week of October.

Beta sometime this month.

My guestimation. Not a formal schedule.

What is true release anyway ? Bitcoin is still in Beta.


with "true release" i mean the phase after beta..Smiley
hero member
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Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.
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