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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1797. (Read 2985503 times)

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I recently talked with a local economics prof about cryptos and he was saying that coins need to expire if not spent, so that people will stop hoarding and spend money ....

Does fiat has expiry dates?

No, but fiat has inflation.

An expiration date would not work as people would just turn it into a game of musical chairs.  We already see this to an extent in $Fiat where very few people anymore keep more than $10K in the bank - their savings goes straight into into their home or a retirement fund which is backed by physical assets or equity.

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I recently talked with a local economics prof about cryptos and he was saying that coins need to expire if not spent, so that people will stop hoarding and spend money ....

Does fiat has expiry dates?

No, but fiat has inflation.
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My largest crypto holding is in a PoSV coin.   Cry  Cry   Nothing wrong with PoSV if you are a follower of the economic policies of Emperor Diocletian.   Grin


What is a posv coin?

Proof of Stake Velocity.  It is used in tipping coins.

ReddCoin right ? I think i read something about that. It sounds like the goal is similar to POI but the approach is different.

Yes but there's exponential decay / coin aging and then interest.  It is not viable mechanism for a free market crypto currency but PoSV would be the choice mechanism for a government controlled crypto currency.

The whole point of crypto currencies, in my opinion, was to get away from $Fiat inflation and yet PoSV introduces a comparable equivalent to $Fiat inflation.

I recently talked with a local economics prof about cryptos and he was saying that coins need to expire if not spent, so that people will stop hoarding and spend money ....

Does fiat has expiry dates?
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My largest crypto holding is in a PoSV coin.   Cry  Cry   Nothing wrong with PoSV if you are a follower of the economic policies of Emperor Diocletian.   Grin


What is a posv coin?

Proof of Stake Velocity.  It is used in tipping coins.

ReddCoin right ? I think i read something about that. It sounds like the goal is similar to POI but the approach is different.

Yes but there's exponential decay / coin aging and then interest.  It is not viable mechanism for a free market crypto currency but PoSV would be the choice mechanism for a government controlled crypto currency.

The whole point of crypto currencies, in my opinion, was to get away from $Fiat inflation and yet PoSV introduces a comparable equivalent to $Fiat inflation.

I recently talked with a local economics prof about cryptos and he was saying that coins need to expire if not spent, so that people will stop hoarding and spend money ....
legendary
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What's this huge announcement about? https://twitter.com/nemcoin/status/501715461436764163



Mark Karpeles saw Makoto's tweet and he already replied.   Grin  Something about being accepted at Starbucks in the hidden code?!

LOL. I don't even follow Tux on twitter.
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My largest crypto holding is in a PoSV coin.    Nothing wrong with PoSV if you are a follower of the economic policies of Emperor Diocletian.   Grin

I have been using PoI in the alpha and have written a preliminary draft of its' comparison with PoSV (for my own consumption) but I have not found an appropriate contemporary scholar and I may have to dwell pre-1920 (or check foreign languages) to find the appropriate one.

A somewhat upgraded version of POI will be out in a couple of weeks. It took awhile to complete (started it in June). That being said, the difference is not going to be that big.

Right now I am analyzing POI vs POS using the NXT blockchain data. I'll publish results when done.
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The one area where cryptos fail is in having natively txs clear in 6 sec or less, this removes any outside / thridparty centralization which can control the processing fees. As far as i know there is only crypto out there that has it which is in beta (and no im not saying which one as it doesn't pretain to NEM).

If there is a completely decentralized solution that clears tx in 6 sec please do say which one as I'd really like to take a look at it Smiley


Ethereum claims it can do it in 6s with their platform.

 Ethereum is in the conceptual phase and they are running an IPO, so they will say anything (and don't have to prove it) to get people to invest.

Actually the Ethereum IPO has been a let down to an extent.  They only had 4440 incoming transactions and 100 wallets (wallets =/= people) own like 45% - 50% of Ethereum according to a blog post I saw from Vitalik.  Wallets are not people, like if I wanted to invest $1 million $Fiat into Ethereum then I would do it in 5 to 10 wallets to minimize loss from a hypothetical wallet theft.  


Is 4440 really that impressive if NEM was able to get 3000?  The demand to become a stakeholder for NEM was such was that NEM could had done 5000 or even as much as 10,000 (a far bigger figure than 4400) stakeholders.  So it led me to conclude that there's actually very little demand or userbase for Ethereum.

  The number 3000 just made sense as it's a lucky number (and a round easy to remember number) and it was enough distribution to curb the influence of whales that we see in almost every cryptos.  

I don't even think a whale can occur in NEM due to how  it is structured.  There's only ever like 10-20 stakes for sale on the token exchange and someone buying 20 stakes does not make them a whale (although it's more then what other people have).   You need at least 200 - 600 stakes to become a whale and there simply isn't enough sellers at 20,000 - 100,000 NXT to make that happen. 

I am surprised that it went so poorly. I guess the price was too high.
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Another concern i'd like to express is this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/it-costs-009-cents-to-send-024-cents-of-bitcoin-really-743599

I actually agree with the OP in this thread. Bitcoin is really unfriendly to micro-transactions especially after fee's and such. Is NEM going to take this into account?

Another is this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-medias-death-grasp-on-bitcoin-price-743924

Which i also believe is very valid. Any thoughts on the above guys? It's another concern i agree with - because lets face it, mainstream media doesn't exactly have a track record of publishing accurate or truthful information.

Fees are something that need to be considered carefully, especially as the currency becomes more valuable.

Right now, what do you think of the fees in the alpha?
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Vitalik Buterin is nominated for the World Technology IT software award.

http://www.wtn.net/summit-2014/world-technology-award-finalists

Nice of GS to give one to their own! Wink

NEM should create our own New Economy awards.
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Here is a "full report" of the Nxt - bter story: http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0814/cryptocurrpbterjob.htm

It's a bit too long, but indeed, quite intriguing.

Just finished reading it! Very long, but not sure how you could condense 80 pages better than that  Wink
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Here is a "full report" of the Nxt - bter story: http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0814/cryptocurrpbterjob.htm

It's a bit too long, but indeed, quite intriguing.
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My Head is a Ritz

Nice to see that one of the biggest "whales" is someone like jl777hodl
That word shouldn't be used, even with quotations, in the same sentence as NEM.  10 stakes is 0.0025% of the total supply of 4B.  When developers in many cryptos take up to 0.97% (97%) and other coins have individual whales taking as much as 0.3% (30%).

As pointed out that is his investment fund wallet.  I don't think he would appreciate us linking his private wallet.  He actually has a moderate amount of NXT himself and he doesn't own any NEMstakes.   His fund acquiring NEMstake was likely due to requests from investors.

I am very aware that holding 10 shares doesn't make him a "whale". I guess I should have clarified that a bit more.

I'm sure plenty of people own jl777hodl, since it's on atleast 1 exchange I know of, Poloinex. Isn't this a good thing? Now a lot more people pretty much have their own micro-share of NEM, if anyone is a "(word removed)", don't we want it to be the asset jl777hodl?
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Oh my, this is exciting.

I am confused, what is exciting???

There will be an announcement tomorrow. People are getting excited about that.  Wink

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Oh my, this is exciting.

I am confused, what is exciting???
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Oh my, this is exciting.
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Looking for the next big thing

Please don't go all nuts about it. I think Makoto is most excited and that's why he's going all nuts on twitter Smiley

But when Makoto gets excited so do I. hahaha
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As soon as you asked - the NEM thread became quiet.   Wink
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Please don't go all nuts about it. I think Makoto is most excited and that's why he's going all nuts on twitter Smiley

Roger! We will see  Cheesy

Well, we are all nuts about NEM anyway. And support NEM we must so that we are the best! :-)
Gold and Silver coins?

Have dev-team already decided how the pricing will form ?
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Please don't go all nuts about it. I think Makoto is most excited and that's why he's going all nuts on twitter Smiley

Roger! We will see  Cheesy

Well, we are all nuts about NEM anyway. And support NEM we must so that we are the best! :-)
Gold and Silver coins?
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