These are the accounts with scammed NEM:
NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8
NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5
NXT-8YZK-DV4T-4R3K-5BU5L
NXT-ZHUA-3R7B-G74V-AG5VV
NXT-29UX-LJCV-YAGJ-FZWV9
NXT-W7SY-5SMN-L7QE-E7CLA
NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
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the whole asset exchange is full of sockpuppets
here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
Look at the transactions details
NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!
there's over 1000 veteran accounts?here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
Look at the transactions details
NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!
?? So your saying of these 1000 500 are sock puppets and the other 1500 are also sock puppets of them??? Ok lolit is no problem to make a member or hero member account.
I do not want a discussion. I just want to know which usernames stuck behind the account.
This Accounts all are one person:
1 ) NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
2) NXT-YXJ6-PYSH-48LJ-744EG
3) NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5
4) NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8
5) NXT-8YZK-DV4T-4R3K-5BU5L
6) NXT-ZHUA-3R7B-G74V-AG5VV
These are from the marked scammer:
2) NXT-YXJ6-PYSH-48LJ-744EG : 572 newmeyns ; 573 penter
3) NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5: 584 jacksonwil
4) NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8 : 583
5) 586 michaelss
6) 587 lucky8888
etc.
No surprise here. You barked at the wrong tree.
Considering the date, its probably one that scammed for 6 stakes.
It's quite interesting to see how NEM is evolving and the whole altcoin landscape along with it.
Would love to be able to use a time machine and see how things would look like at christmas.
Would love to be able to use a time machine and see how things would look like at christmas.
the whole asset exchange is full of sockpuppets
here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
Look at the transactions details
NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!
there's over 1000 veteran accounts?here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
Look at the transactions details
NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!
?? So your saying of these 1000 500 are sock puppets and the other 1500 are also sock puppets of them??? Ok lolit is no problem to make a member or hero member account.
I do not want a discussion. I just want to know which usernames stuck behind the account.
This Accounts all are one person:
1 ) NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
2) NXT-YXJ6-PYSH-48LJ-744EG
3) NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5
4) NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8
5) NXT-8YZK-DV4T-4R3K-5BU5L
6) NXT-ZHUA-3R7B-G74V-AG5VV
the whole asset exchange is full of sockpuppets
here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
Look at the transactions details
NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!
Patmaster tell us your views which username is hiding behind the transactions.
he catch 5 nemstakes and transfer it into one account!
here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
Look at the transactions details
NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!
Patmaster tell us your views which username is hiding behind the transactions.
he catch 5 nemstakes and transfer it into one account!
kodtycoon thank you for clarifying
So big drama is going to happen with Node's puppet removal, that it seems that all NEMsters are there
Have a good weekend NEMsters!
Cheers
Have a good weekend NEMsters!
Cheers
So... in this case -why nxt is falling down so quick
cause of this good news?P.S. so many nxt in NEM thread
I found more. P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT. Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.
This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.
This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.
another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers.
socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L
Great work TaunSew on pointing this out. I think it definitely needs to be taken into consideration and more auditing is in order!
They did it too easy. Too quick. Had to be the IP. You had to go there to get your number. lol ---->BUSTED 
I found NODE to be interesting, so I went ahead and signed up. That was after they hiked the registration fee to $25 something.
I found more. P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT. Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.
This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.
This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.
another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers.
socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L
Well we don't know the criteria NODE had used, except for this one particular post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7550635
The problem I am sensing is that there could be false positives. Despite Node's aggressive anti-sock detection they only rooted out individuals with between 2 to 6 stakes. The biggest one I can immediately see has 6 stakes in NODE while most have less than that. And that probably includes a few false positives.
Even with that aggressive sock hunting (even more aggressive than NEM due to witchhunting methods like "intuition" and other stuff), they didn't undercover any huge sock masters. Like it's mainly guys with 2-3 stakes (with the odd person with 4 to 6), nothing which ruins NODE's distribution.
Does that mean NODE is worthless? No.. it means, with the exception of 20 people who took 2 to 5 times more share, it was well distribution to over a thousand people.
NEM is the sameway I think. Maybe if we used NODE's aggressive stance / witchhunt we could uncover maybe 30 to 40 sock masters (including false positives) but those sockmasters probably only have 3 to 4 stakes (the odd person with 5 to 7).
NEM is still going to have that good distribution of maybe 2700+ unique persons (after the auction).
The reality is this: NEM was a fork back in January and there wasn't the incentive to create a billion socks to game what was then a fork, the samething was true for NODE. All the time it takes to bypass taint analysis and other detection methods, never mind the anti-spam thing on Bitcointalk, the hysteria about huge sock masters just doesn't have any basis in reality.
These node guys are like a group of teens with too much power.
I found more. P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT. Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.
This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.
This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.
another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers.
socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L
Well we don't know the criteria NODE had used, except for this one particular post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7550635
The problem I am sensing is that there could be false positives. Despite Node's aggressive anti-sock detection they only rooted out individuals with between 2 to 6 stakes. The biggest one I can immediately see has 6 stakes in NODE while most have less than that. And that probably includes a few false positives.
Even with that aggressive sock hunting (even more aggressive than NEM due to witchhunting methods like "intuition" and other stuff), they didn't undercover any huge sock masters. Like it's mainly guys with 2-3 stakes (with the odd person with 4 to 6), nothing which ruins NODE's distribution.
Does that mean NODE is worthless? No.. it means, with the exception of 20 people who took 2 to 5 times more share, it was well distribution to over a thousand people. I think that means NODE I would characterize to be a good buy since it's presumably has stability (no dumping whales).
NEM is the sameway I think. Maybe if we used NODE's aggressive stance / witchhunt we could uncover maybe 30 to 40 sock masters (including false positives) but those sockmasters probably only have 3 to 4 stakes (the odd person with 5 to 7).
NEM is still going to have that good distribution of maybe 2700+ unique persons (after the auction).
The reality is this: NEM was a fork back in January and there wasn't the incentive to create a billion socks to game what was then a fork, the samething was true for NODE. All the time it takes to bypass taint analysis and other detection methods, never mind the anti-spam thing on Bitcointalk, the hysteria about huge sock masters just doesn't have any basis in reality.
It makes sense in the present to say: "if I had known the price of NEMstake I'ld had created 100 socks". Just like saying I should had put $10,000 into Bitcoin in 2009. One problem of that is retrospective knowledge =/= real world. I was there back in January and it probably wasn't until March (after the registration was over) that we knew NEM was going to be this special thing we know it to be today.
I found more. P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT. Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.
This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.
Perhaps should clarify first how NODE declared them to be socks. They never had a public or transparent taint analysis as far as I know. In a lot of circumstances, I see them just grouping inactives based on similar names.
For instance, P5 consists of two guys. Bytemother and ivanluiso. No chain transactions to put them together. They registered weeks apart. Only thing I see in common are messages in Spainish and both are named Ivan (meh I guess that's a probable link but still).
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.
This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.
Perhaps should clarify first how NODE declared them to be socks. They never had a public or transparent taint analysis as far as I know. In a lot of circumstances, I see them just grouping inactives based on similar names.
For instance, P5 consists of two guys. Bytemother and ivanluiso. No chain transactions to put them together. They registered weeks apart. Only thing I see in common are messages in Spainish and both are named Ivan (meh I guess that's a probable link but still).
Nodecoin puppet removal has started. The highlighted names are sockpuppets apparently
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
This is the Nem stakeholders list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
looks like a lot of the Node sockpuppets are now NEM stakeholders
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
This is the Nem stakeholders list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
looks like a lot of the Node sockpuppets are now NEM stakeholders
you mean users that are declared sock puppets on the node stake holder list are on the nem stake holder list?
lucky i got in free into that lol i thought it was a scam so just posted interested and forgot about it. nice surprise to get that its close to launching and doing well.
ps. anyone interested in nxt, should read this.
https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/development-roadmap-update-2014-07-05/?topicseen
NEM was the first of this kind of distribution. The advantage of being the first is the surprise factor and that's the reason NEM has many veteran acc. and few sock puppets. Other coins saw that and imitated and surely there were many socks the second time around. Tbh, I am not a fan since it is too messy. Straight IPO with a stakeholder target and a limit on investment work better.
I went through the list. P stands for Puppet. A lot of those names are on the NEM stakeholder list and several own more than 3.
vonBerlichingen, Ziustag, BierKoch, TheGreatWodan, Manowar are listed as P3 on the Node stakeholder list and had their stakes removed, but they're still present on the NEM stakeholder list. That's presumably one guy with five stakes and he hasn't claimed any tokens for them yet.
waltz, ney, rockhill, beida, BitTom, shenjie are P18 and I know a couple of those names were on the NEM stakeholder list. I find it strange Beida would get a refund from NEM months ago (yet made a post today about NEM ) but keep a stake with the Ney, Waltz and Rockhill account. He claimed those tokens; so he may have sold them already.
That's only just from briefly scanning the node stakeholder list - a lot more of their busted socks are probably on the NEM stakeholder list but you'ld have to go from P1 to P20 and search for them in the NEM list.
How they found these socks I don't know. They made a post on it. They did taint analysis like NEM but also went through other factors. They may had collected IPs from the NXTL account generator and cross compared them. Alternatively, they could just be grouping inactive newbies with similar names which really isn't busting socks but busting inactives with username similarities.
vonBerlichingen, Ziustag, BierKoch, TheGreatWodan, Manowar are listed as P3 on the Node stakeholder list and had their stakes removed, but they're still present on the NEM stakeholder list. That's presumably one guy with five stakes and he hasn't claimed any tokens for them yet.
waltz, ney, rockhill, beida, BitTom, shenjie are P18 and I know a couple of those names were on the NEM stakeholder list. I find it strange Beida would get a refund from NEM months ago (yet made a post today about NEM
) but keep a stake with the Ney, Waltz and Rockhill account. He claimed those tokens; so he may have sold them already.That's only just from briefly scanning the node stakeholder list - a lot more of their busted socks are probably on the NEM stakeholder list but you'ld have to go from P1 to P20 and search for them in the NEM list.
How they found these socks I don't know. They made a post on it. They did taint analysis like NEM but also went through other factors. They may had collected IPs from the NXTL account generator and cross compared them. Alternatively, they could just be grouping inactive newbies with similar names which really isn't busting socks but busting inactives with username similarities.
Nodecoin puppet removal has started. The highlighted names are sockpuppets apparently
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
This is the Nem stakeholders list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
looks like a lot of the Node sockpuppets are now NEM stakeholders
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
This is the Nem stakeholders list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
looks like a lot of the Node sockpuppets are now NEM stakeholders
this is not the end yet. rule about 2 stakes per person is still in place.
Nodecoin puppet removal has started. The highlighted names are sockpuppets apparently
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
This is the Nem stakeholders list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
looks like a lot of the Node sockpuppets are now NEM stakeholders
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
This is the Nem stakeholders list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
looks like a lot of the Node sockpuppets are now NEM stakeholders
Wow they caught a bunch! Not that it makes a difference for them when it comes to NEM. We knew all along that some would slip through. We still reached our goal of having the best distribution so far. Someone just mentioned how impressive it was to have as many veteran accounts as we do, and I have to agree there.
It will be interesting to see how NODE does. I'm a stakeholder and they have my full support as well. Those guys are no nonsense lol. There is no Pat there to take care of everyones little problems. I'm impressed with NODE, looks like they will deliver a rather good system.
The devs just clearly stated that they are not trying to be NEM or Nxt, which is good they have their own identity.
I just can't wait until NEM officially launches, it's going to be so sweet! Every week is a month in the crypto world, or worse, lol.
It's been a long time coming, but good to see steady progress.
Nodecoin puppet removal has started. The highlighted names are sockpuppets apparently
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
This is the Nem stakeholders list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
looks like a lot of the Node sockpuppets are now NEM stakeholders
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
This is the Nem stakeholders list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=10
looks like a lot of the Node sockpuppets are now NEM stakeholders
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