NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 574.

jkoil

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Quote from: kauppalahti on March 25, 2017, 04:42:27 AM

Quote from: jkoil on March 24, 2017, 05:16:02 PM

When here is now talked about "stakeholders", it raised some questions about "NEM's history" :

how many BTT members wanted a NEM stake (were on the stakeholder list) and
how many of them received it?

Another question is how many has his NEM account in his control?
That can not be answered exactly, but only with estimations.
0 transfers from/to the account means that
a) they have forgotten the keys/passwords forever, or
b) they just sit on their account.

(yea ... the answers are somewhere here and there, and in the blockchain, but now I feel so tired.. Wink

)

That is not difficult to resolve. I have stored all original lists but why bother
when nothing have desided.

not depending on any forthcoming decisions - just curious.
Eg. how well the start went; how many were dropped out before the launch, etc.

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HAVUJA PERKELE!

Quote from: jkoil on March 24, 2017, 05:16:02 PM

When here is now talked about "stakeholders", it raised some questions about "NEM's history" :

how many BTT members wanted a NEM stake (were on the stakeholder list) and
how many of them received it?

Another question is how many has his NEM account in his control?
That can not be answered exactly, but only with estimations.
0 transfers from/to the account means that
a) they have forgotten the keys/passwords forever, or
b) they just sit on their account.

(yea ... the answers are somewhere here and there, and in the blockchain, but now I feel so tired.. Wink

)

That is not difficult to resolve. I have stored all original lists but why bother
when nothing have desided.

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when is the birthday of xem? Cheesy

jkoil

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Nxt NEM

When here is now talked about "stakeholders", it raised some questions about "NEM's history" :

how many BTT members wanted a NEM stake (were on the stakeholder list) and
how many of them received it?

Another question is how many has his NEM account in his control?
That can not be answered exactly, but only with estimations.
0 transfers from/to the account means that
a) they have forgotten the keys/passwords forever, or
b) they just sit on their account.

(yea ... the answers are somewhere here and there, and in the blockchain, but now I feel so tired.. Wink

)

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Quote from: cryptonit on March 24, 2017, 12:19:51 PM

Quote from: pgb on March 23, 2017, 06:35:56 AM

Quote from: fragout on March 23, 2017, 05:34:48 AM

Quote from: nzminer on March 23, 2017, 03:00:46 AM

Quote from: colombuszka on March 23, 2017, 02:37:56 AM

Quote from: gsxrl3oi on March 22, 2017, 09:41:19 PM

Quote from: nzminer on March 22, 2017, 06:41:41 PM

Quote from: schnötzel on March 22, 2017, 05:45:40 PM

News about the 1st stakeholder bonus?

Have not heard anything about this.
Is this supposed to be the silver coins you were talking about?

Yes it was about the silver coin. or just spread the fund to original stake holders from what I remember. We've been waiting for it. But it's not high on the priority list for the devs.

Would like to onpw about this too.

It might be more viable now that the price is up.
But there is more important things right now that the team are working on

They distributed the old marketing fund lately so this might be the next plan. Personally i think they should just distribute it all to every original stakeholder as it will bring back a lot of users who might have sold in the early days. It wont affect the market very much either as its about 70k each (211million/3k ?). After all if it wasn't held for the silvercoin project we would have got it on launch day.

I think we, original stake holders, got more than enough and whoever did not believe in the project and sold does not deserve another chance. The fund was set aside for the silver coins and imo that is what should be done. The rest can be used to fund projects build on top of NEM as that is what will make the platform grow.

i think it should be used to reward stakeholders no matter if old or new

a initial share was 2.3 million XEM

at day x 1 silvercoins should be distributed to each stakeholder at 2.3 million XEM or more

this would be for sure each supernode but also each initial stake that the holder did keep and harvest with it

we could create a very exclusive and valueable series of 2000 silvercoins each valued 1500$

the coins not claimed by qualified NEM addresses in a like 6 months timeframe we could later auction and create a additional $ fund for NEM Foundation with this

because its pretty impossible make a single silver coin be of value 1500$ i guess they will carry a paperwallet like private address key with the leftover XEM value split between all 2000 silvercoins

as we see this days how valuable early physical bitcoins are as collectors item u can expect this limited NEM silvercoin be a high valueable collector item too in a few years

I am a NEM supporter because I believe it's platform is the best implementation of blockchain technology. I believe it can solve many problems and create a lot of value in society and possibly change the world as blockchain tech is sure to do. This silver coin project does nothing to further this goal and would only be a source of profit for initial stakeholders. I don't think this is in the spirit of NEM which had the goal for wide initial distribution. That's why I strongly feel these funds would serve the project and stakeholders best by being reinvested in the supernode or dev funds.

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Quote from: pgb on March 23, 2017, 06:35:56 AM

Quote from: fragout on March 23, 2017, 05:34:48 AM

Quote from: nzminer on March 23, 2017, 03:00:46 AM

Quote from: colombuszka on March 23, 2017, 02:37:56 AM

Quote from: gsxrl3oi on March 22, 2017, 09:41:19 PM

Quote from: nzminer on March 22, 2017, 06:41:41 PM

Quote from: schnötzel on March 22, 2017, 05:45:40 PM

News about the 1st stakeholder bonus?

Have not heard anything about this.
Is this supposed to be the silver coins you were talking about?

Yes it was about the silver coin. or just spread the fund to original stake holders from what I remember. We've been waiting for it. But it's not high on the priority list for the devs.

Would like to onpw about this too.

It might be more viable now that the price is up.
But there is more important things right now that the team are working on

They distributed the old marketing fund lately so this might be the next plan. Personally i think they should just distribute it all to every original stakeholder as it will bring back a lot of users who might have sold in the early days. It wont affect the market very much either as its about 70k each (211million/3k ?). After all if it wasn't held for the silvercoin project we would have got it on launch day.

I think we, original stake holders, got more than enough and whoever did not believe in the project and sold does not deserve another chance. The fund was set aside for the silver coins and imo that is what should be done. The rest can be used to fund projects build on top of NEM as that is what will make the platform grow.

i think it should be used to reward stakeholders no matter if old or new

a initial share was 2.3 million XEM

at day x 1 silvercoins should be distributed to each stakeholder at 2.3 million XEM or more

this would be for sure each supernode but also each initial stake that the holder did keep and harvest with it

we could create a very exclusive and valueable series of 2000 silvercoins each valued 1500$

the coins not claimed by qualified NEM addresses in a like 6 months timeframe we could later auction and create a additional $ fund for NEM Foundation with this

because its pretty impossible make a single silver coin be of value 1500$ i guess they will carry a paperwallet like private address key with the leftover XEM value split between all 2000 silvercoins

as we see this days how valuable early physical bitcoins are as collectors item u can expect this limited NEM silvercoin be a high valueable collector item too in a few years

gbcholgi

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yea i am also one of the original stakeholder! no selling till now, and the silver coin project should be done for the old believer!

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Quote from: greentea on March 23, 2017, 07:58:47 PM

Quote from: Assman on March 23, 2017, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: Tehfiend on March 23, 2017, 04:58:52 PM

Quote from: jabo38 on March 23, 2017, 10:21:46 AM

No decisions on the Silver Coin Fund have been made, and probably won't be for a while.

1) money to fund the project isn't a problem. NEM has more than enough liquidity and marketcap.
2) the problem is time and resources to run the project. it is actually quite an endeavor. the marketing team is instead trying to build projects on NEM that will make it a lot more famous, so those take priority for the time being. at some point we might have more human resources and can assign a team to run this project, but right now the teams are focused on other things that we consider a higher priority, like refining marketing message, website, and partnerships.
3) if the money for some reason isn't used to fund silver coins, it would go towards some other social program to help the community, like maybe Supernodes or Community Fund. at no point would it be used for a tip for the NEM team, nor the community as a direct payout.

As an original stake holder I would prefer these funds go into the supernode fund myself.

Where can I find info on this supernode project?

Read all about it here:
https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-supernode-rewards-program/1735

Extending the supernode program with the funds would be beneficial ...

Too rich for my NEM blood, but good luck with this supernode project!

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: vytasz7 on March 23, 2017, 10:07:57 AM

Quote from: jkoil on March 23, 2017, 09:59:50 AM

Quote from: fragout on March 23, 2017, 08:07:44 AM

Quote from: vytasz7 on March 23, 2017, 06:53:37 AM

Quote from: pgb on March 23, 2017, 06:35:56 AM

Quote from: fragout on March 23, 2017, 05:34:48 AM

Quote from: nzminer on March 23, 2017, 03:00:46 AM

Quote from: colombuszka on March 23, 2017, 02:37:56 AM

Quote from: gsxrl3oi on March 22, 2017, 09:41:19 PM

Quote from: nzminer on March 22, 2017, 06:41:41 PM

Quote from: schnötzel on March 22, 2017, 05:45:40 PM

News about the 1st stakeholder bonus?

Have not heard anything about this.
Is this supposed to be the silver coins you were talking about?

Yes it was about the silver coin. or just spread the fund to original stake holders from what I remember. We've been waiting for it. But it's not high on the priority list for the devs.

Would like to onpw about this too.

It might be more viable now that the price is up.
But there is more important things right now that the team are working on

They distributed the old marketing fund lately so this might be the next plan. Personally i think they should just distribute it all to every original stakeholder as it will bring back a lot of users who might have sold in the early days. It wont affect the market very much either as its about 70k each (211million/3k ?). After all if it wasn't held for the silvercoin project we would have got it on launch day.

I think we, original stake holders, got more than enough and whoever did not believe in the project and sold does not deserve another chance. The fund was set aside for the silver coins and imo that is what should be done. The rest can be used to fund projects build on top of NEM as that is what will make the platform grow.

As you say the fund was set aside for silver coins and it should be used for it or be distributed to every original stake holder . Devs dont have time for silver coin project ,so easiest way just distribute xem .

Exactly. Theres about 3 billion NEM set aside for dev funds already. I think that is more than enough (30%) to make the platform grow.

yes, but to avoid sending 70k to a "dead" account, there could be needed some "I want the refund" message by sending 1 XEM to the fund's account.

nothing wrong to send to dead acc ( like burning some xem)

Why some think that burning is ok ?

I think that the burning should not be done:

a) "Burning money is illegal in some jurisdictions" == same principal could be used in virtual currencies

b) the amount of XEM would decrease.
The more XEMs, the better Liquidity, and therefore more happy XEM owners.

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Quote from: nzminer on March 24, 2017, 05:15:43 AM

Quote from: visaco on March 23, 2017, 08:47:05 PM

i think any early stake holder who didn't dump for quick bucks... need a recognition
a honor coin no matter what silver coin copper coin i m ready to accept inox coin or dirt coin

for all the stress that we endured in these past years sometimes i couldn't even sleep because it was too hard to not dump
it takes balls and true faith in the project for not dumping, when 1stake was=35 000 dollars
but we are here our faith was greater than our greed we supported this project and we deserve a kind of recognition

now imagine if all the early stake holders dumped do you think we will be sitting here talking about how nem is great .?
i understand the feeling of the new nem adopters... they hate the idea the rich get richer and i agree with them 100% i will be thinking the same if i was in their position .
for this reason i m saying if you give me something not necessarily with a materialistic value, that recognize my commitment and faith i will be more than happy
Thank you
visaco - 1.0 - User Stake
nem supporter from January 26, 2014
never sold one xem

I think there should be a party arranged in Japan for all remaining original stakeholders when we hit $1 billion marketcap Cheesy

Arranged meeting of many NEMigarchs not safe. Could be terrorist attack or really big strong men waiting in alleys to rob private keys.

Even Yakuza and North Korean spies could target the event.

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Quote from: visaco on March 23, 2017, 08:47:05 PM

i think any early stake holder who didn't dump for quick bucks... need a recognition
a honor coin no matter what silver coin copper coin i m ready to accept inox coin or dirt coin

for all the stress that we endured in these past years sometimes i couldn't even sleep because it was too hard to not dump
it takes balls and true faith in the project for not dumping, when 1stake was=35 000 dollars
but we are here our faith was greater than our greed we supported this project and we deserve a kind of recognition

now imagine if all the early stake holders dumped do you think we will be sitting here talking about how nem is great .?
i understand the feeling of the new nem adopters... they hate the idea the rich get richer and i agree with them 100% i will be thinking the same if i was in their position .
for this reason i m saying if you give me something not necessarily with a materialistic value, that recognize my commitment and faith i will be more than happy
Thank you
visaco - 1.0 - User Stake
nem supporter from January 26, 2014
never sold one xem

Im in the same club as you!

I think there should be a party arranged in Japan for all remaining original stakeholders when we hit $1 billion marketcap Cheesy

BigSirko

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They should give a gold medal which states Hero of the NEMolution. Cheesy

visaco

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i think any early stake holder who didn't dump for quick bucks... need a recognition
a honor coin no matter what silver coin copper coin i m ready to accept inox coin or dirt coin

for all the stress that we endured in these past years sometimes i couldn't even sleep because it was too hard to not dump
it takes balls and true faith in the project for not dumping, when 1stake was=35 000 dollars
but we are here our faith was greater than our greed we supported this project and we deserve a kind of recognition

now imagine if all the early stake holders dumped do you think we will be sitting here talking about how nem is great .?
i understand the feeling of the new nem adopters... they hate the idea the rich get richer and i agree with them 100% i will be thinking the same if i was in their position .
for this reason i m saying if you give me something not necessarily with a materialistic value, that recognize my commitment and faith i will be more than happy
Thank you
visaco - 1.0 - User Stake
nem supporter from January 26, 2014
never sold one xem

nzminer

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Quote from: mol76 on March 23, 2017, 05:49:37 PM

do you guys think that xem could hit 3k+ satoshis in near months?

Regards...

Yes, I feel this is possible, considering we have been so undervalued for a long time, our marketcap only needs to roughly double to reach that goal

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Quote from: Assman on March 23, 2017, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: Tehfiend on March 23, 2017, 04:58:52 PM

Quote from: jabo38 on March 23, 2017, 10:21:46 AM

No decisions on the Silver Coin Fund have been made, and probably won't be for a while.

1) money to fund the project isn't a problem. NEM has more than enough liquidity and marketcap.
2) the problem is time and resources to run the project. it is actually quite an endeavor. the marketing team is instead trying to build projects on NEM that will make it a lot more famous, so those take priority for the time being. at some point we might have more human resources and can assign a team to run this project, but right now the teams are focused on other things that we consider a higher priority, like refining marketing message, website, and partnerships.
3) if the money for some reason isn't used to fund silver coins, it would go towards some other social program to help the community, like maybe Supernodes or Community Fund. at no point would it be used for a tip for the NEM team, nor the community as a direct payout.

As an original stake holder I would prefer these funds go into the supernode fund myself.

Where can I find info on this supernode project?

Read all about it here:
https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-supernode-rewards-program/1735

Extending the supernode program with the funds would be beneficial ...

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Quote from: XbladeX on March 23, 2017, 06:17:59 PM

Quote from: Tehfiend on March 23, 2017, 04:58:52 PM

Quote from: jabo38 on March 23, 2017, 10:21:46 AM

No decisions on the Silver Coin Fund have been made, and probably won't be for a while.

1) money to fund the project isn't a problem. NEM has more than enough liquidity and marketcap.
2) the problem is time and resources to run the project. it is actually quite an endeavor. the marketing team is instead trying to build projects on NEM that will make it a lot more famous, so those take priority for the time being. at some point we might have more human resources and can assign a team to run this project, but right now the teams are focused on other things that we consider a higher priority, like refining marketing message, website, and partnerships.
3) if the money for some reason isn't used to fund silver coins, it would go towards some other social program to help the community, like maybe Supernodes or Community Fund. at no point would it be used for a tip for the NEM team, nor the community as a direct payout.

As an original stake holder I would prefer these funds go into the supernode fund myself.

Create those silvercoins 10 unces for holders is not that bad idea rest funds can stay in nem supers-nodes for me.
Supernodes are very good way to spread XEM on market.
Silver is very cheap metal now.

It's a good idea! Cheesy

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Quote from: Tehfiend on March 23, 2017, 04:58:52 PM

Quote from: jabo38 on March 23, 2017, 10:21:46 AM

No decisions on the Silver Coin Fund have been made, and probably won't be for a while.

1) money to fund the project isn't a problem. NEM has more than enough liquidity and marketcap.
2) the problem is time and resources to run the project. it is actually quite an endeavor. the marketing team is instead trying to build projects on NEM that will make it a lot more famous, so those take priority for the time being. at some point we might have more human resources and can assign a team to run this project, but right now the teams are focused on other things that we consider a higher priority, like refining marketing message, website, and partnerships.
3) if the money for some reason isn't used to fund silver coins, it would go towards some other social program to help the community, like maybe Supernodes or Community Fund. at no point would it be used for a tip for the NEM team, nor the community as a direct payout.

As an original stake holder I would prefer these funds go into the supernode fund myself.

Create those silvercoins 10 unces for holders is not that bad idea rest funds can stay in nem supers-nodes for me.
Supernodes are very good way to spread XEM on market.
Silver is very cheap metal now.

mol76

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do you guys think that xem could hit 3k+ satoshis in near months?

Regards...

AntiNoise

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Quote from: Assman on March 23, 2017, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: Tehfiend on March 23, 2017, 04:58:52 PM

Quote from: jabo38 on March 23, 2017, 10:21:46 AM

No decisions on the Silver Coin Fund have been made, and probably won't be for a while.

1) money to fund the project isn't a problem. NEM has more than enough liquidity and marketcap.
2) the problem is time and resources to run the project. it is actually quite an endeavor. the marketing team is instead trying to build projects on NEM that will make it a lot more famous, so those take priority for the time being. at some point we might have more human resources and can assign a team to run this project, but right now the teams are focused on other things that we consider a higher priority, like refining marketing message, website, and partnerships.
3) if the money for some reason isn't used to fund silver coins, it would go towards some other social program to help the community, like maybe Supernodes or Community Fund. at no point would it be used for a tip for the NEM team, nor the community as a direct payout.

As an original stake holder I would prefer these funds go into the supernode fund myself.

Where can I find info on this supernode project?

look at here: " https://forum.nem.io/t/2017-nem-link-list/3189 " under Supernodes...

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Quote from: Tehfiend on March 23, 2017, 04:58:52 PM

Quote from: jabo38 on March 23, 2017, 10:21:46 AM

No decisions on the Silver Coin Fund have been made, and probably won't be for a while.

1) money to fund the project isn't a problem. NEM has more than enough liquidity and marketcap.
2) the problem is time and resources to run the project. it is actually quite an endeavor. the marketing team is instead trying to build projects on NEM that will make it a lot more famous, so those take priority for the time being. at some point we might have more human resources and can assign a team to run this project, but right now the teams are focused on other things that we consider a higher priority, like refining marketing message, website, and partnerships.
3) if the money for some reason isn't used to fund silver coins, it would go towards some other social program to help the community, like maybe Supernodes or Community Fund. at no point would it be used for a tip for the NEM team, nor the community as a direct payout.

As an original stake holder I would prefer these funds go into the supernode fund myself.

Where can I find info on this supernode project?

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