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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:45:35 AM

But that depends greatly from how you present gambling to them. If you tell that you gamble for money to survive, of course they will want to try to help parents and also get engaged into gambling. If you explain that it is for fun, then maybe among all fun activities, they will choose gambling sometimes. Just an example that everyone face - you tell kids that you go to work everyday to earn money for food, toys, pay bills and etc. You tell them how important work is, because their and family life depends from it. But I dont see many kids lean into starting work and becoming workaholics as soon as possible.

Because children are used to the fact that their parents spoiled them very much and gave them everything they asked for. But sometimes you need to be able to say the word "no" to a child, although it is not easy, because we all love our children. But if you do not refuse them, then they will grow up to be those who are used to receiving things just like that without effort. Therefore, later, when they grow up, they are not particularly ready to go to work where they are loaded with responsibilities.

As for the topic, I would definitely not play gambling games for money in front of children, and if without money and for fun, I would teach them so that they understand the rules, learn to count and understand that there are players who want to beat them. Thanks to these games, you can understand why your opponent wins and what he does for this. So not everything is so clear with the answer to this question.

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playing in front of your children is wrong but in a country where documents are falsified to play and everyone closes their eyes or where they let minors play it is all possible it is true that teaching must come first from the family but also the place where born and raised counts I started seeing betting when I was very little and where my mind was forming in my country 15 year old kids already play slots because no one controls them and they can do what they want so it's the life and sometimes what they teach you at home isn't enough

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But that depends greatly from how you present gambling to them. If you tell that you gamble for money to survive, of course they will want to try to help parents and also get engaged into gambling. If you explain that it is for fun, then maybe among all fun activities, they will choose gambling sometimes. Just an example that everyone face - you tell kids that you go to work everyday to earn money for food, toys, pay bills and etc. You tell them how important work is, because their and family life depends from it. But I dont see many kids lean into starting work and becoming workaholics as soon as possible.

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Quote from: Hispo on July 26, 2024, 05:39:49 AM

Quote from: Huppercase on July 25, 2024, 03:29:32 PM

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Sure... It is truly heartbreaking seeing people, specially children engaging in gambling for survival. Those are people who are literally wagering with their meals and hoping to be able to continue to afford food from their gambling sessions, it is very hard to see...
Perhaps that is why I am completely against introducing children to things like gambling or alcohol, it there are chances those thing would only turn into hardships further in their lives and make them reluctant to continue studying.
Maybe, that is why some games online have become so addicting in these recent years, you know, because they include mechanics like loot boxes and alike, which (depending whom you ask) it could be an equivalent to gambling.

It develops from what they've seen to those adults that sorrounds them, introducing gambling in the early stage of a young minds will result them to lean on it, thinking that it's okay doing such and like what you mentioned they will risk it all just to hope for some luck, pushing their ways to win and make something decent to feed themselves, it's just a repeated thing that will develop inside them, same with you, I also don't see or don't like to see any kids being influenced just by seeing me or someone who gambles and gain their interest about it.

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Quote from: Huppercase on July 25, 2024, 03:29:32 PM

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Sure... It is truly heartbreaking seeing people, specially children engaging in gambling for survival. Those are people who are literally wagering with their meals and hoping to be able to continue to afford food from their gambling sessions, it is very hard to see...
Perhaps that is why I am completely against introducing children to things like gambling or alcohol, it there are chances those thing would only turn into hardships further in their lives and make them reluctant to continue studying.
Maybe, that is why some games online have become so addicting in these recent years, you know, because they include mechanics like loot boxes and alike, which (depending whom you ask) it could be an equivalent to gambling.

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Quote from: hyudien on July 26, 2024, 01:42:37 AM

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Quote from: hyudien on July 24, 2024, 09:50:15 PM

I agree with you, I think and don't find any benefit for children if they see gambling being done, I don't think there will be any benefit, if they think it's a talisman I don't think it makes sense because winning at gambling is more about individual luck. So, if you really have luck, you will win under any circumstances, and no matter what you do, you cannot guarantee that luck will be on your side.
Even though online casinos do not have an age limit, of course parents will not allow their children to gamble even if they are born into a very rich family because gambling is not something that should be learned either for example, there are other people who gamble and there are other people's children, I don't think the people who gamble will show the gambling they do, therefore if there are parents who gamble and allow their children to see it it is probably the parents who have taught them wrongly even though they have good intentions behind it I don't think it makes sense.

My grandma played cards with me when I was a kid. My father explained me rules blackjack and poker rules when I was a kid. When I was a teenager, I remember we had a VHS cassette with comedy movie Maverick (movie about poker tournament). I remember I we had challenges when we were kids and used chewing gums as currency for bets. Somehow I managed not to grow up as gambling addicted. Miracles, isnt it? And from your post, it is considered that my parents were bad at parenting. In fact, my kid saw me gambling, knows rules and what it is. That also makes me a bad parent, right?

However, none of those who surround me, ever used gambling to earn, never boasted with amount won or that gamble. It wasnt accepted in our family. We usually celebrated achievements in studying and promotions or success at work. Gambling was never a source of income in our family. This is probably why we all have such entertaining attitude to it.

surely there is a good purpose behind it, it is impossible for parents to show their gambling just like that, especially if they want their children to become gambling experts, I don't think that's possible. what you experienced is the same. besides that when growth has occurred of course we will have thoughts which we can choose which are good and bad things to do, for example with parents who show their gambling and when we are adults we will think and then choose to do the same thing as our parents or even leave them., life is a choice even though at the beginning it was taught by parents but in the future we ourselves determine it.
that's good, indeed it should not be gambling as a means of making money because there is a fatal negative side that can happen when having such thoughts. I salute you if all your family knows that gambling is a means of entertainment and gambling is nothing more than that. this must be maintained and I think it can be an example that gambling is not entirely bad when done properly.

I am just saying that I am a living example of a kid who saw adults gamble and havent turned into gambling junkie Cheesy

Exposed a myth users talk here for 70+ pages. Of course not everyone is as cool as me, but still chances of becoming addicted after watching isnt 100%.

Nevertheless the life of a kid goes fast, and as a parent, you are surprised how quick their childhood ends, yet nobody dont even try to make a little test. Gamble in front of them for 15minutes and see if kids show any interest in it. Parents have still many days in advance to correct kids vision on gambling and redirect attention on other things.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on July 26, 2024, 01:11:30 AM

Children usually follow the behavior of adults from birth, especially the behavior of the parents closest to the child. Children grow up following the behavior of their parents, when they see their parents gambling, children will immediately follow suit.

Children will read while sitting at the reading table, if parents see them playing gambling or playing online games, then surely the child will change his behavior. And children will want to play that game or gamble again and again at any cost, thus children choose bad behaviors.

Therefore as parents we must behave well in front of children, yes, as you have said, children will follow the behavior of their parents when they see it directly, if parents behave badly, children will also behave badly.
Moreover, if parents are caught gambling, their children will definitely be curious and will try to gamble too.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 25, 2024, 06:00:58 AM

Quote from: hyudien on July 24, 2024, 09:50:15 PM

I agree with you, I think and don't find any benefit for children if they see gambling being done, I don't think there will be any benefit, if they think it's a talisman I don't think it makes sense because winning at gambling is more about individual luck. So, if you really have luck, you will win under any circumstances, and no matter what you do, you cannot guarantee that luck will be on your side.
Even though online casinos do not have an age limit, of course parents will not allow their children to gamble even if they are born into a very rich family because gambling is not something that should be learned either for example, there are other people who gamble and there are other people's children, I don't think the people who gamble will show the gambling they do, therefore if there are parents who gamble and allow their children to see it it is probably the parents who have taught them wrongly even though they have good intentions behind it I don't think it makes sense.

My grandma played cards with me when I was a kid. My father explained me rules blackjack and poker rules when I was a kid. When I was a teenager, I remember we had a VHS cassette with comedy movie Maverick (movie about poker tournament). I remember I we had challenges when we were kids and used chewing gums as currency for bets. Somehow I managed not to grow up as gambling addicted. Miracles, isnt it? And from your post, it is considered that my parents were bad at parenting. In fact, my kid saw me gambling, knows rules and what it is. That also makes me a bad parent, right?

However, none of those who surround me, ever used gambling to earn, never boasted with amount won or that gamble. It wasnt accepted in our family. We usually celebrated achievements in studying and promotions or success at work. Gambling was never a source of income in our family. This is probably why we all have such entertaining attitude to it.

surely there is a good purpose behind it, it is impossible for parents to show their gambling just like that, especially if they want their children to become gambling experts, I don't think that's possible. what you experienced is the same. besides that when growth has occurred of course we will have thoughts which we can choose which are good and bad things to do, for example with parents who show their gambling and when we are adults we will think and then choose to do the same thing as our parents or even leave them., life is a choice even though at the beginning it was taught by parents but in the future we ourselves determine it.
that's good, indeed it should not be gambling as a means of making money because there is a fatal negative side that can happen when having such thoughts. I salute you if all your family knows that gambling is a means of entertainment and gambling is nothing more than that. this must be maintained and I think it can be an example that gambling is not entirely bad when done properly.

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Quote from: Rabata on July 24, 2024, 09:01:38 PM

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 24, 2024, 04:36:35 PM

I don't know what is going to be the benefits of people who gamble in the presence of their children, for me I think is not encouraging because is obvious that children emulate whatever their parents do and also discuss in their presence, so what I want us to understand is that we need to be careful and understand that in some countries gambling operates illegal and your children may think that since their parents is a gambler and gambling is good for children without knowing that their will be age a child will ascertain before getting to certain age.

In this concern I also do not know what benefit the gambler derives from gambling in the presence of kids. I think a gambler gambling in front of his children is also ruining his own fortune. It is only natural that children who see their parents gambling will be drawn to gambling themselves at some point. Conscious gamblers never try to discuss gambling or gambling in front of their children. Because they can have an idea about its negative aspects. Gamblers who are ignorant and have no sense of responsibility are destroying themselves as much as they are oblivious to their posterity.

When gamblers gamble in front of their children it will ruin the future of his family and his children. However, a child who sees his parent's gambling is motivated by that gambling and ruins his future life. That's why parents should not make such mistakes but should hide or play secretly in front of the child so that the child does not have any gambling behavior in future. Every parent should refrain from gambling and be careful. For the bright future of the children, it is important for parents to always think well and be responsible.

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Children usually follow the behavior of adults from birth, especially the behavior of the parents closest to the child. Children grow up following the behavior of their parents, when they see their parents gambling, children will immediately follow suit.

Children will read while sitting at the reading table, if parents see them playing gambling or playing online games, then surely the child will change his behavior. And children will want to play that game or gamble again and again at any cost, thus children choose bad behaviors.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on July 25, 2024, 02:09:50 PM

Gambling in front of children can really have a negative impact on their perception and behavior. Children are very impressionable and can easily adopt the bad habits of adults. It is important to keep them away from such situations and direct their attention towards studies and other useful activities. It is important for parents to be careful about what they show their children.

No parent really wants their child's future to be bad. But children learn a lot from the environment and apply it in themselves. Nowadays gambling is seen taking place in public places and young children in the neighborhood are attracted to gambling by seeing this.
Children will try to practice in themselves what they see in the environment. So we adults should always be careful that we don't do anything like this in front of children. For now if our future generations are good for our awareness then we as adults need to do the same. Parents should be aware that they do not participate in gambling in front of children but always give importance to their children.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 25, 2024, 06:39:03 AM

We can't discount that situation as there are gamblers who wanted to show thier things in front of their children whatever the reason behind, they think that kids can adopt their strategy and in the future they will walk in the same path, but like what the reply above if the parents or the adults is conscious they will not do that as they knew that it can ruined the future of those young minds.

I see the point where kids nowadays have their own ways to delight themselves and if the focus reached to gambling then expect those kids to participate on their young age as they already have knowledge about how the game works.

And with that possible winning streak that they can experienced, it will push them to dig deeper and chances to become addicted is not by far.

They needs to be careful if they choose that way and it is better they prepare their kids and explain many things about what they do to their kids. They can't just show what they do or their gambling activity to their kids without any explanation because that can makes their kids curious and will find out by themselves.

Kids can find what they thinks could gives them fun so if they see that gambling can gives fun, they will try to playing gambling at least with their friends. If they don't have self control, they can drag deeper to gambling in their age without their parents know so that will gives a big risks to them. That's why parents must always guide and explain many things to them and not trying to show adult activity so they will not curious with what their parents do.

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Quote from: Hispo on July 24, 2024, 08:28:59 PM

I don't quite understand what you mean, but I personally do not see what benefit there could be for someone to have their children to witness their sessions of gambling. The only weird reason I could think of is some parents believing their children act as a charm for them to have a better luck while gambling. Pure superstition.
When comes to gambling and children, all countries with a minimum of civility will have laws which will forbid children from partaking in gambling, there is no doubt about it, the debate would be whether it should be illegal for a minor to also witness gambling activities being carried out by others.

As a parent, it's your responsibility to make sure you children understand nothing about gambling unless they are have come of age where they are ready to accept every consequences of their actions. You know one thing about children, they are all innocent by default when they know nothing about life, it's our ways of life they copy quickly and because they are kids, they watch everything you do and I'm sure if a good parent will want his child to start a life a gambler.

In addition, there is nothing good for a kid to learn like gambling because of the finance in it. I have seen people here that are not from well to do families that struggled to eat and you will wonder how bad some parents are doing because it's hurt seeing their children gambling and they are doing that to survive, they are barely upto 14 years or even less and we have them gambling and the worst part of it is the casinos are not rejecting their games, they help them stake games which is bad.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on July 25, 2024, 02:09:50 PM

Gambling in front of children can really have a negative impact on their perception and behavior. Children are very impressionable and can easily adopt the bad habits of adults. It is important to keep them away from such situations and direct their attention towards studies and other useful activities. It is important for parents to be careful about what they show their children.

It wont be a problem or you wont have to keep them away from such a bad habit as gambling, if they are aware of what it is. For example when we start a fire, we dont hide the process and we dont hide it from kids. Instead we explain that fire burns and will hurt. Bad like you say, kids are impressionable, and kids like to copy adults. However, we dont often see that every single kid plays with matches and tries to start a fire. Reason for that is their trust in what parents said. Iwe posted before that adults should build such level of trust, that they will trust in their every word without hesitation.

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Gambling in front of children can really have a negative impact on their perception and behavior. Children are very impressionable and can easily adopt the bad habits of adults. It is important to keep them away from such situations and direct their attention towards studies and other useful activities. It is important for parents to be careful about what they show their children.

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Quote from: Hispo on July 24, 2024, 08:28:59 PM

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 24, 2024, 04:36:35 PM

I don't know what is going to be the benefits of people who gamble in the presence of their children, for me I think is not encouraging because is obvious that children emulate whatever their parents do and also discuss in their presence, so what I want us to understand is that we need to be careful and understand that in some countries gambling operates illegal and your children may think that since their parents is a gambler and gambling is good for children without knowing that their will be age a child will ascertain before getting to certain age.

I don't quite understand what you mean, but I personally do not see what benefit there could be for someone to have their children to witness their sessions of gambling. The only weird reason I could think of is some parents believing their children act as a charm for them to have a better luck while gambling. Pure superstition.
When comes to gambling and children, all countries with a minimum of civility will have laws which will forbid children from partaking in gambling, there is no doubt about it, the debate would be whether it should be illegal for a minor to also witness gambling activities being carried out by others.

What GeorgeJohn wrote is clearly understood and you also responded rightly to it as no responsible parent would want their children to be exposed to some adult-related activities at their early stage of life. Even if they are adults already, some responsible parents will still not do it in their presence, this is unless they later discover that their children are also doing it. This is where they will now come in to educate them about the good and bad parts of gambling to guide them aright.

I added the point of keeping it from them in adulthood because gambling is not necessary, the children can pursue a better way of life and be fine without it. Mind you, what people are exposed to is what they would want to try and could either be good or bad for them. Imagine your friend who never gambled, but came to visit you for a month and before he left he had started gambling just because you were gambling daily. That is the view I'm talking about, I don't think it's positive or honourable for our children to ever discover it or pick interest for it from us.

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Quote from: LDL on July 24, 2024, 09:40:51 PM

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 24, 2024, 04:36:35 PM

I don't know what is going to be the benefits of people who gamble in the presence of their children, for me I think is not encouraging because is obvious that children emulate whatever their parents do and also discuss in their presence, so what I want us to understand is that we need to be careful and understand that in some countries gambling operates illegal and your children may think that since their parents is a gambler and gambling is good for children without knowing that their will be age a child will ascertain before getting to certain age.

In this concern I also do not know what benefit the gambler derives from gambling in the presence of kids. I think a gambler gambling in front of his children is also ruining his own fortune. It is only natural that children who see their parents gambling will be drawn to gambling themselves at some point. Conscious gamblers never try to discuss gambling or gambling in front of their children. Because they can have an idea about its negative aspects. Gamblers who are ignorant and have no sense of responsibility are destroying themselves as much as they are oblivious to their posterity.

Those who are reckless gamblers would never involve themselves in gambling if they consider the future of their children. Addicted gamblers give more importance to gambling than their family and children, so they become addicted to gambling without considering the family. There are many such gamblers around my house who are always busy with gambling without talking about their family. The family members of those gamblers are spending their days in malnutrition and starvation while the gamblers are completely indifferent to the family. But a conscious gambler can never prioritize gambling more than his family and children.

One should not be such a gambler at all. Such a gambler can neither fulfill his family responsibilities well nor understand his own good. If the gambler gambles responsibly, the gambler will have more success than failure. We are only talking about those gamblers who are aware of this and can gamble under control. There are many families where the entire family is destroyed due to one member of the family being addicted to gambling. I totally agree with what you mentioned here that if a gambler is addicted to gambling then he forgets his family responsibilities as well as he gets known to the family as a failure. So a gambler who gambles out of a sense of responsibility and who certainly has control over gambling may introduce his child to gambling at a certain age but a person who is addicted to gambling and destroys his entire family must be someone in his family. don't want

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 25, 2024, 04:31:04 AM

Quote from: Rabata on July 24, 2024, 09:01:38 PM

In this concern I also do not know what benefit the gambler derives from gambling in the presence of kids. I think a gambler gambling in front of his children is also ruining his own fortune. It is only natural that children who see their parents gambling will be drawn to gambling themselves at some point. Conscious gamblers never try to discuss gambling or gambling in front of their children. Because they can have an idea about its negative aspects. Gamblers who are ignorant and have no sense of responsibility are destroying themselves as much as they are oblivious to their posterity.

Maybe that gambler wants to show their winning to their kids and also show how much money they gets from gambling. But that will not a good idea because their kids can thinks that they can do the same thing to make money from gambling. That can attract that kids to try to playing gambling with their friends and if they wins, they can gives that money to their parents. That is not a good way to educate their kids because that can cause their kids doing the same things until their adults.

Their kids will thinks that they can make money from gambling and will not thinks that they have many ways to make money and not from gambling. A wise gambler will not trying to playing gambling in front of their kids because they know the risks and consequences if they do that. They will prefer to playing gambling in other places where there is no kids in that places so they don't have to thinks about the risks that can happens to their kids.

We can't discount that situation as there are gamblers who wanted to show thier things in front of their children whatever the reason behind, they think that kids can adopt their strategy and in the future they will walk in the same path, but like what the reply above if the parents or the adults is conscious they will not do that as they knew that it can ruined the future of those young minds.

I see the point where kids nowadays have their own ways to delight themselves and if the focus reached to gambling then expect those kids to participate on their young age as they already have knowledge about how the game works.

And with that possible winning streak that they can experienced, it will push them to dig deeper and chances to become addicted is not by far.

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Quote from: hyudien on July 24, 2024, 09:50:15 PM

I agree with you, I think and don't find any benefit for children if they see gambling being done, I don't think there will be any benefit, if they think it's a talisman I don't think it makes sense because winning at gambling is more about individual luck. So, if you really have luck, you will win under any circumstances, and no matter what you do, you cannot guarantee that luck will be on your side.
Even though online casinos do not have an age limit, of course parents will not allow their children to gamble even if they are born into a very rich family because gambling is not something that should be learned either for example, there are other people who gamble and there are other people's children, I don't think the people who gamble will show the gambling they do, therefore if there are parents who gamble and allow their children to see it it is probably the parents who have taught them wrongly even though they have good intentions behind it I don't think it makes sense.

My grandma played cards with me when I was a kid. My father explained me rules blackjack and poker rules when I was a kid. When I was a teenager, I remember we had a VHS cassette with comedy movie Maverick (movie about poker tournament). I remember I we had challenges when we were kids and used chewing gums as currency for bets. Somehow I managed not to grow up as gambling addicted. Miracles, isnt it? And from your post, it is considered that my parents were bad at parenting. In fact, my kid saw me gambling, knows rules and what it is. That also makes me a bad parent, right?

However, none of those who surround me, ever used gambling to earn, never boasted with amount won or that gamble. It wasnt accepted in our family. We usually celebrated achievements in studying and promotions or success at work. Gambling was never a source of income in our family. This is probably why we all have such entertaining attitude to it.

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Quote from: Rabata on July 24, 2024, 09:01:38 PM

In this concern I also do not know what benefit the gambler derives from gambling in the presence of kids. I think a gambler gambling in front of his children is also ruining his own fortune. It is only natural that children who see their parents gambling will be drawn to gambling themselves at some point. Conscious gamblers never try to discuss gambling or gambling in front of their children. Because they can have an idea about its negative aspects. Gamblers who are ignorant and have no sense of responsibility are destroying themselves as much as they are oblivious to their posterity.

Maybe that gambler wants to show their winning to their kids and also show how much money they gets from gambling. But that will not a good idea because their kids can thinks that they can do the same thing to make money from gambling. That can attract that kids to try to playing gambling with their friends and if they wins, they can gives that money to their parents. That is not a good way to educate their kids because that can cause their kids doing the same things until their adults.

Their kids will thinks that they can make money from gambling and will not thinks that they have many ways to make money and not from gambling. A wise gambler will not trying to playing gambling in front of their kids because they know the risks and consequences if they do that. They will prefer to playing gambling in other places where there is no kids in that places so they don't have to thinks about the risks that can happens to their kids.

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