Topic: New 1070's, Need Mining Advice (Read 1962 times)
I did notice that, but only really thought about it being a difficulty increase when you mentioned it. I tend to agree with you on the eventual obsolescence of SLI / Crossifre in general. Manufacturers tried that with Voodoo style cards, hooking them up parallel to each other in the late 90's, and we can see how well that worked out. That was shortly before the 1 GHz processor wall was broken, so, with SLI going out...we may see more effective chipsets, hmm, dunno.
Nvidia 1070's should be around 450 Sol/s in Zcash without overclocking or messing with memory, you can make it go up to 480-485 Sol/s by increasing a bit the core clock and the memory. I think mining Zcash now is more profitable than Ethereum at the exact moment I am writing this, I personally have switched all my Nvidia cards to Zcash. It should make you about 2.20 USD daily which is a good amount nowadays considering how down is the profitability of the GPU-mining. Even Eth+Sia is a good option to try.
Are you sure about that? I really doubt it that Ethereum is less profitable than ZCash, I've been mining Zcash for a while, it was pretty profitable since start, till 1 week ago. Now, I've lost more than 30-40% of my daily earnings and cannot move to Ethereum mining due to my cards being only 2GB.After the increase in ETH difficulty today I would bet ZCash is more profitable. Haven't tested it myself but I will this weekend.
Nvidia 1070's should be around 450 Sol/s in Zcash without overclocking or messing with memory, you can make it go up to 480-485 Sol/s by increasing a bit the core clock and the memory. I think mining Zcash now is more profitable than Ethereum at the exact moment I am writing this, I personally have switched all my Nvidia cards to Zcash. It should make you about 2.20 USD daily which is a good amount nowadays considering how down is the profitability of the GPU-mining. Even Eth+Sia is a good option to try.
Are you sure about that? I really doubt it that Ethereum is less profitable than ZCash, I've been mining Zcash for a while, it was pretty profitable since start, till 1 week ago. Now, I've lost more than 30-40% of my daily earnings and cannot move to Ethereum mining due to my cards being only 2GB.
Nvidia 1070's should be around 450 Sol/s in Zcash without overclocking or messing with memory, you can make it go up to 480-485 Sol/s by increasing a bit the core clock and the memory. I think mining Zcash now is more profitable than Ethereum at the exact moment I am writing this, I personally have switched all my Nvidia cards to Zcash. It should make you about 2.20 USD daily which is a good amount nowadays considering how down is the profitability of the GPU-mining. Even Eth+Sia is a good option to try.
X13 is a BAD choice for any GPU, as the Baikal ASIC can mine it.
Minersgate in the short testing I did on it was a very poor performing pool/software combo - I'd ignore them entirely.
Nicehash generally works fairly well, and is sometimes more profitable than mining coins directly.
There is NO REASON to "SLI" (or Crossfire for AMD) cards when mining with them - it offers ZERO performance advantage, and can sometimes CAUSE problems.
I suspect the whole concept is going to die over the next decade anyway, as DirectX 12 makes the whole concept obsolete when a game properly impliments DirectX 12.
Minersgate in the short testing I did on it was a very poor performing pool/software combo - I'd ignore them entirely.
Nicehash generally works fairly well, and is sometimes more profitable than mining coins directly.
There is NO REASON to "SLI" (or Crossfire for AMD) cards when mining with them - it offers ZERO performance advantage, and can sometimes CAUSE problems.
I suspect the whole concept is going to die over the next decade anyway, as DirectX 12 makes the whole concept obsolete when a game properly impliments DirectX 12.
Ok, so been playing around with different miners, without overclocking yet, I've got a little better then 52Mh/s on Ethereum and have it paired with SiaCoin.
With the massive differences in those results versus what I was getting trying out Minergate, they are either a scam or it's the worst pool on the planet. I tend to think their software just doesn't report correctly, since it was showing 1.5 Mh/s per 1070.
With the massive differences in those results versus what I was getting trying out Minergate, they are either a scam or it's the worst pool on the planet. I tend to think their software just doesn't report correctly, since it was showing 1.5 Mh/s per 1070.
To be a tad bit blunt, but in a helpful way, if you don's understand SLI you really should download NiceHash and use their software until you gain some experience. It's as close to 1 click mining as you can get and while the profits are rolling in you will have time to learn the basics and eventually experiment with other, more involved aspects of mining. 
www.nicehash.com
www.nicehash.com
I didn't take that to be blunt or close to rude at all, thank you, no worries
I believe that I understand the concept of bridging the cards in SLI, but from what I've been able to see, it's just more efficient to run them as independent cards.
Thanks, I did do some troubleshooting on the rig today, and, I'm definitely getting different numbers than most of you here. Without SLI enabled I've got 35 Mh/s on x13, with it enabled I am getting 38 Mh/s.
Neither are overclocked, but I will fiddle with the BIOS a bit tomorrow, thank you for the advice on Nicehash, whattomine, and the ETH/SIA combo, I will take a look at those as I see what more I can squeeze out
Neither are overclocked, but I will fiddle with the BIOS a bit tomorrow, thank you for the advice on Nicehash, whattomine, and the ETH/SIA combo, I will take a look at those as I see what more I can squeeze out
Looking at whattomine.com it comes that the most profitable on 1070 is mining ETH+SIA, each GTX 1070 card in my rig is getting around 30MHs ETH and 500MHs SIA, so this pair is more profitable than ZEC or Nicehash-Equihash.
To be a tad bit blunt, but in a helpful way, if you don's understand SLI you really should download NiceHash and use their software until you gain some experience. It's as close to 1 click mining as you can get and while the profits are rolling in you will have time to learn the basics and eventually experiment with other, more involved aspects of mining.
www.nicehash.com
www.nicehash.com
Best thing what you can do in my opinion is to try to use nicehash miner because it automaticly exchange to btc what is really perfect,I cant suggest you anything better than this.
30 plus per card....hmm, that is a hell of a difference. Thank you for that, I will be experimenting with turning that off and see what happens
Ok, back to it !
So, there was first a delay in customs, then a delay of another day because the package arrived at FedEx too late and was considered received on the next day...typical, right.
The 1070's have been running, and mining an x13 algo altcoin, with the cards in SLI, cold they start out at about 19.5 each, then as things warm up, they can drop as low as 18.5 each.
I did not expect ccminer to start them as two different threads, but expected instead it to be one thread since they were SLI'd. Was I misunderstanding the SLI for some reason (making it kind of one virtual card) or should I have expected two different threads all along?
So, there was first a delay in customs, then a delay of another day because the package arrived at FedEx too late and was considered received on the next day...typical, right.
The 1070's have been running, and mining an x13 algo altcoin, with the cards in SLI, cold they start out at about 19.5 each, then as things warm up, they can drop as low as 18.5 each.
I did not expect ccminer to start them as two different threads, but expected instead it to be one thread since they were SLI'd. Was I misunderstanding the SLI for some reason (making it kind of one virtual card) or should I have expected two different threads all along?
Dont SLI, one thread per card is normal.
Dont know about x13 algo, i go on 32mh/s and 30.5mh/s with OC on ETH+LBC
Ok, back to it !
So, there was first a delay in customs, then a delay of another day because the package arrived at FedEx too late and was considered received on the next day...typical, right.
The 1070's have been running, and mining an x13 algo altcoin, with the cards in SLI, cold they start out at about 19.5 each, then as things warm up, they can drop as low as 18.5 each.
I did not expect ccminer to start them as two different threads, but expected instead it to be one thread since they were SLI'd. Was I misunderstanding the SLI for some reason (making it kind of one virtual card) or should I have expected two different threads all along?
So, there was first a delay in customs, then a delay of another day because the package arrived at FedEx too late and was considered received on the next day...typical, right.
The 1070's have been running, and mining an x13 algo altcoin, with the cards in SLI, cold they start out at about 19.5 each, then as things warm up, they can drop as low as 18.5 each.
I did not expect ccminer to start them as two different threads, but expected instead it to be one thread since they were SLI'd. Was I misunderstanding the SLI for some reason (making it kind of one virtual card) or should I have expected two different threads all along?
Dummies Guide to Mining w/windows/nividia gpu
For this recipe you need only:
1 bittrex account. 1 download. 1 mining site
you can mine up to 32 different coins by changing a few parameters
-set up bittrex account
-download ccminer 2.0
( https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases )
- go to yiimp.ccminer.org
-in this case we'll mine VTC which uses the lyra2v2 algo
- open ccmminer. you will see a file that says: RUN-VTC-yiimp
right click
>click edit
now it will open up in notepad and the text will look like this: (emphasis added)
ccminer-x64 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://yiimp.ccminer.org:4533 -u VujRht7M8G68wZJo3z11dN837JKJtWGsqv -p c=VTC,stats
The main variables for any set up on the same pool are going to be the algo, port, wallet, coin
- open the yiimp.ccminer.org webpage and look for VTC in the chart on right. there you will see the algo used, Port # and the abbreviated coin name
-place the names from the site into the respective areas in your open notepad replacing the text for algo/port#/coin
take the wallet addrress from bittrex and replace notepad text
-the different letters (-a,-o,-u,-p,-c) stand for algo, stratum,username,password, coin. You can ignore -p. You will need to add -c= if its not there. If you see other additional modifiers in an algo you are opening just leave them there and add your coin name (-c=) after the -p
-Now click 'save as'
-File Name: "RUN-VTC"
-File Type: ( erase where it says *txt and type) .bat
-let it close, go back to the folder and click the new RUN-VTC.bat file and you'll be mining
To change coins swap out the algo, port,name, and wallet
add modifiers from the readme as you learn if needed but the basic set up will get you going
- when you're ready to mine just click the .bat file
If it does not run try adding start above the body of text on the bat file.
START
For this recipe you need only:
1 bittrex account. 1 download. 1 mining site
you can mine up to 32 different coins by changing a few parameters
-set up bittrex account
-download ccminer 2.0
( https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases )
- go to yiimp.ccminer.org
-in this case we'll mine VTC which uses the lyra2v2 algo
- open ccmminer. you will see a file that says: RUN-VTC-yiimp
right click
>click edit
now it will open up in notepad and the text will look like this: (emphasis added)
ccminer-x64 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://yiimp.ccminer.org:4533 -u VujRht7M8G68wZJo3z11dN837JKJtWGsqv -p c=VTC,stats
The main variables for any set up on the same pool are going to be the algo, port, wallet, coin
- open the yiimp.ccminer.org webpage and look for VTC in the chart on right. there you will see the algo used, Port # and the abbreviated coin name
-place the names from the site into the respective areas in your open notepad replacing the text for algo/port#/coin
take the wallet addrress from bittrex and replace notepad text
-the different letters (-a,-o,-u,-p,-c) stand for algo, stratum,username,password, coin. You can ignore -p. You will need to add -c=
-Now click 'save as'
-File Name: "RUN-VTC"
-File Type: ( erase where it says *txt and type) .bat
-let it close, go back to the folder and click the new RUN-VTC.bat file and you'll be mining
To change coins swap out the algo, port,name, and wallet
add modifiers from the readme as you learn if needed but the basic set up will get you going
- when you're ready to mine just click the .bat file
If it does not run try adding start above the body of text on the bat file.
START
And thank you for this, you actually hit on some things that I had missed
Hah, GoogleFU, yeah, I imagine that is ok 
Just about to go stark raving mad now because the delivery is delayed. I will experiment of course and try it with SLI enabled and without.
Retiring a couple of machines simply due to their power / efficiency now being way too much of a problem.
Just about to go stark raving mad now because the delivery is delayed. I will experiment of course and try it with SLI enabled and without.Retiring a couple of machines simply due to their power / efficiency now being way too much of a problem.
If your googleFU is ok, you tube is an excellent resource!
Ok, so, sometime tomorrow, I've got a bridged pair of GTX 1070s coming. I've been up to my eyeballs trying to keep all the details straight, registering here, there, and trying to find the most reliable information I can.
Still feeling my way around this place, so, if anyone would be so kind as to point me in the "For Dummies" section of how to get these up and running (Eth would be great, another coin, fine too, I need to push at least a small profit out though with these), so I am spending less time floundering in the dark, it would be appreciated
Still feeling my way around this place, so, if anyone would be so kind as to point me in the "For Dummies" section of how to get these up and running (Eth would be great, another coin, fine too, I need to push at least a small profit out though with these), so I am spending less time floundering in the dark, it would be appreciated
Its better to play few days with diff currency so that you can get idea. Altcoins are also good to mine like chc or dnr. Single gpu isn't good for heavy difficulty mining.
Thank you all very much for the replies.
Yes, by bridged I meant that fancy schmancy SLI connector, which reminds me an awful lot of when you could cross-connect two Voodoo cards together, ah the old days.
Delivery delay, *grumble grumble* FedEx, so it might be tomorrow, but I like planning ahead.
Yes, by bridged I meant that fancy schmancy SLI connector, which reminds me an awful lot of when you could cross-connect two Voodoo cards together, ah the old days.
Delivery delay, *grumble grumble* FedEx, so it might be tomorrow, but I like planning ahead.
I'm not sure bridging (if you meant connecting them via an SLI connector) will net you any better mining performance than just running them as individual card on the same motherboard. If you want to try it both ways and let us know how it works, I'm sure many would be interested.
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