Topic: [NEW] Bitcoin Art, 'The Secret Room', Limited to 18 (Read 768 times)

I will not be participating in any arguments.

Tom's account has still not been approved by mods, so I am posting an update for him, per his request.

Here's the new design, based on the concept of the photography (which is what should have occurred in the first place, as I originally mentioned)

sketch:



further:



completed:

(giving me invalid image link, so here's direct image link:)

https://imgur.com/a/xc6emG9


Available here:  https://lynxartcollection.com/products/bitcoin-cave-new-release

I see the newbie post regarding the said photographer of the image.  Not sure if that's the real photographer, but, regardless, if they'd like to reach out, I will ensure Tom mentions on his description page that it is inspired by the photography of "insert name here."  Photographer has not mentioned his name.

Godspeed,

Frank

I believe the original artist posted on the post above yours.

I have the Lynx "Whitepaper", on canvas even.  I call it "The Black Rectangle" as that is all you can see.

tl;dr all the drama, but adding my 2 cents. I ordered one of these and then tried to cancel after I found out that it was copied. Tom offered a full refund, but I offered to accept a different poster from their site instead. Tom said okay and also upgraded the size (2x the cost of what I paid). Lack of oversight happens all the time, I get it...in my situation I think this Tom guy went above and beyond to make it right. I hope he finds and offers an apology to the original artist as well.

Wow.. I don’t have words to describe how I feel about this. I do my best just to make a name for myself with my photography and you guys try to rip off your own community for around 40k $ by stealing my work. What a pity.

I guess since I commented im part of the heard mentality.  Never said anything before.  But when something gets caught here and had a real chance of ripping $40k ish from people...then call it what you want it SHOULD be called out by the collective whole.  I hope YOU would call some company that did the same.  Its not like we have the better business beurou to keep us a safe it.  Its us and only us on this forum that keeps everyone safe.

Since you have been a member here for awhile YOU should know how many people get scammed here.  I'm not saying its a scam but to jack art that's as close as it gets.  Especially when peddling it for the amount that it was peddled for.

For you to call out mj and vizique for not chiming in...really?  What are they supposed to say, oh cmon everyone it was an honest possible $40k mistake.  I mean really. 

Its easy to lump everyone together thinking we are pitchforking...but put yourselves in the shoes of the possible buyer that was considering buying this "original art".  You would be quick to defend the person peddling it? 

You're welcome.  Like I said I have no gratification from this and, in fact, am basically here doing 'damage control' for oversight reasons that should have already been noticed by their current team.  Instead I did a quick image search and then posted to help out.

But yes when you have the opportunity send me a photo of it.  I have the updated image file so I can reproduce it, sign and number it, and have you document that you destroyed the original number to ensure there are no duplicates.

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Alright, thank you !
I will destroy them once I got the revised version, and share pics of the destroyed ones.

I will be in touch with you soon as I am finalizing something at my work currently ...

And no need for the return; sent you a message so we can solve this concern.

Thank you for personally willing to go to such extent.
(I thought this was a Lynx guarantee.)

Anyway, I am grateful to you for willing to fix this.
I always pictured them displayed in my office but I will never display something blurry.

I am not at my home right now, but will take pictures of the whole print, and the parts that are disatisfying to me, along with the serial number and share it with you.
I hope the ones you're to make will be of a similar quality. Thanks a lot again.

I believe he only created one for the video purposes; the others to be released/created upon purchase.

But yes, I agree.  This is a severe oversight.

Funny thing is that I did a reverse image search on the the photo that was sent to me and I found zero entries through tinyeye.  Guess I needed to put in more DD.

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Send me a message.  Happy to cater to this.

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Does that means that I can have "Whitepaper" prints with a font that is actually readable ? (and not blurred)
I would love that ! I can return the current ones to you, no problem.

Otherwise I would like a refund for these, but that was never an option..

(I ask again, because you started to archive this thread and leaving retaliatory negative feedbacks to users, but you seem to have missed my post ...)

You literally just admitted that you refused a free replacement that would be free of damages.  Free.  No shipping, no customs, no charge on the panel; and you even getting to dispose of the original panel and not send it back.  Yet you refused this and said you needed an entire different metal panel design.  

Our replacement and customer satisfaction was always the guarantee; and it held strong and Lynx continues this policy throughout.

But, hey, thanks for the response.  You further proved the issue you originally had at hand; which lead you to attack all future posts of mine and of anything associated with the Company.

To respond to this mention of "it should have been known", I agree - it should have been noticed.  I agreed with this in multiple other posts; I guess you're failing to read through the thread.  And no, that's not what i do -day-to-day- ... and haven't done in a year.  Again, not sure if you are reading or just speculating, but I will repeat it again, as I have at least four times already: I was approached to share this piece with the community, so I did; product was pulled, no sales were made.

Tom will propel Lynx to where it needs to be.  

He has some learning to do and those things take time, as with any newcomer to a business.

Your stings don't affect me, Tee - because I know that's your intention.  


But everyone here still fails to answer the question. Lynx has recognized the problem and is doing a hand-sketch, remake, with this concept in mind.

So I ask if you, if you are for liberty, for freedom, for independence of centralized currency - why do you not accept accidental faiure and allow others to move forward and progress?  I already know the answer.  But you feel free to tell me.

Edit:  Funny that when I point out these things you make single posts and then say you're "done talking" and "refuse to comment further."  Same thing you did years ago.

This is open platform.  JUST LIKE BITCOIN.

We all make mistakes.  I'm aware of this one, forwarded it, and it was taken care of.  No one is taken advantage of.

In all fairness, knowing this has happened in the past, how could it happen again?  Seriously.... this Tom guys first release and he didn't bother to do ANY due diligence on this.  It does not give a good look to this new owner AT ALL.  Maybe Tom is not suited for the art business?  Also, let's be honest, the only reason it was pulled is because he knew he'd get crucified ALL over social media not just this little old forum and that would've been the end of his investment.  I also think it would be in good form to see a video of every serial number of every medium of these being destroyed.  None should be kept (even for sentimental sake) since it's a plagiarized piece.  

Yup, still not ashamed or embarassed about my interactions with you there. You sent me a nightmare of a piece.. offset center, one of the wood hangers fell off, and the metal bent/curled within months due to temperature changes based on where I live. (Of which you actually blamed me of bending the piece on my own)
We already hashed this out and had this fight/argument in a different thread so if people are interested I guess they can go find it there. Most frankbitcoin threads have at least one member dissatisfied.

My thought process...
-You send me a piece of shit for $899 limited to 10 pieces. Sold out.
-You offer me a replacement piece and free shipping back to you. Honorable, but I used a reshipper and paid customs/duty totaling about 1/4 of the price of this piece on top of the purchase price.
-I figure.. hey.. its a sold out edition of 10, you can only maintain the 10 if you burn this piece and completely destroy it. Otherwise the limited edition is broken... fuck it.. it should be just as easy to send me another piece (you're going to spend the cost of material + printer fee on the replacement anyways). Should cost the same.. no big deal and you as a company end up with more art hanging on my wall (should be a positive+ but I guess not).
-Metal + print = Metal + print ?!?!?! doesn't it? Or did you want to hang this one on your garage wall and still pretend there is a Limited Edition of 10?
-40% Discount.. getting pretty close to the cost of materials there aren't ya? Quite a big margin on everything else you sold.. not too hard to take a hit here for failure to quality control.
-Packaging/wrap/corner foam all already in the bin.. let me just run around town and figure out how to ship this big metal piece back.. ya no
-You find yourself a disgruntled customer. Not the only disgruntled customer either.. view yogg's post above.. its a common occurrence when you ran this company.

Somehow you keep mentioning that I don't know how to run a business or what it takes. It has become VERY apparent that you don't either. The best thing the new owner could have done was make it very very clear you're staying away from advising/helping with this work.
I just can't believe this went past both of you guys' eyes and neither of you noticed the complete google image copy and paste here.... ITS YOUR FUCKING LIVELIHOOD. You have bitcoiners that work in non art aspects that noticed this within minutes/hours.... HOW. DIDN'T. ONE. OF. YOU? THIS IS WHAT YOU DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

I, aswell as the rest of the board will probably let the slate be wiped semi-clean here for "Tom" as long as he brings something fresh, new, and original to the table next. I'd suggest you stop posting and tarnishing the reputation that he has yet to establish with the new ownership of Lynx Art. I have nothing further to speak to you about frankbitcoin, it was a hell of a year without you posting here.

Correct.

You did.  And I commented anonymous in regards to providing that and for me to immediately send to Tom to stop production.

Again, he could have sold it elsewhere - he had multiple orders that he canceled.

Perhaps you're not aware of what it's like to run a business; which we've discussed before (and you told me to 'shove it up my ass' when I offered you a free replacement.  remember that?  I do). 

Perhaps you're not aware that proper vetting sometimes doesn't transpire with artists that are hired.  This happens will all companies.  For God's Sake, Apple sends products to be manufactured in China for slave labor and get paid $1 per day.  No complaints there, right? . Didn't think so. Power to the elite.  Which is what this forum is suppose to be against.


Weird.

Anyway.  If you want to rehash old shit, let's go ahead.

Here's your original problem with the Lynx company.

Which, as mentioned a few years ago, stemmed from you wanting a replacement of the same item, which I said i agreed to and would send to you for FREE, which you DECLINED, and suggested that you wanted another piece.

Come on man.  Get real.  Not only with yourself, but with this forum as well.



Hey, sorry I gave you some 'red.'  But it's not right to harass other users. Period.

Stop trolling posts. Lynx recognized the problem and is fixing the issue.  Quite honestly it seems like your entire agenda is based on hanging out here to troll others and harass them.
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double post. mods feel free to delete.

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Oh, and since lesbiancow is arching posts, let's go ahead and update it with the new archive with my further responses.

https://archive.is/Cdifi

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Pulled because WE found the problem. This community you talk of has to protect their own interests and double check nearly everything that Lynx Art produces... doesn't matter if you owned the company or this new guy owns the company.. its a recurring pattern here. How many "oversights" do you guys want before you get called out? This dude's first product back to the community... oversight.

THE PRODUCT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PULLED. IT WOULD HAVE SOLD.. If it weren't for us. There was interest, there would have been sales and I sure hope you guys compensate the members that stopped you from selling this for clear art plagiarism and extremely low effort. Get yours today, only $899 though.

You're right though, every time the farmers are fertilizing their fields and I smell shit in the air I do think about Lynx Art and frankbitcoin.. rent free I suppose you can call it.

I've never received a red from anyone respectable in this community. You haven't broke the streak don't worry. I collect these like pokemon cards.

Agreed.  Yet you, yourself, steer clear of 'staying silent.'  Instead you make wild accusations about people and companies that you have no knowledge of; no knowledge of Lynx's creation, Lynx's existence, Lynx's artists, .  Would the new owner have purchased a company that had a terrible backstory?  I don't think so.

You've done nothing but attack me on this forum since the existence of my account.  It's the history of your username and who you are.

I don't own Lynx anymore.  I could care less what you say to me.  But it's pretty sad for the new founder to be in this position by what was clearly an oversight.

THE PRODUCT WAS PULLED.  IT WAS NEVER SOLD.  He could have kept it online and pumped it through Twitter, Reddit, etc. Instead, he did the right thing and deleted the product when he discovered it.

You've done nothing but try to tarnish other users here on this forum.  Those of us who are aware of you know.  And many won't speak out against it for fear of mods, admins, or other 'long standing users.'  I have no relevance to Lynx anymore so I'm happy to debate you on any topic you feel to bring up, Tee. 

Interesting to see that I'm still living rent-free in your mind, though.

Now that you bring in forum etiquette and courage ...

I am still disapointed about the "Whitepaper" prints you made and sold quite some time ago.
It wasn't written anywhere in the listing on the forum nor on the website that the font would be blurry, making it impossible to read.

What's the point of exposing a whitepaper if you cannot read it ?

I approached you regarding this, and my remarks were dismissed.
The issue was not addressed, replacements were not issued, nothing done to make it right.

As part of the community you refer to, I am disapointed and will not buy Lynx products in the future.

I'm gonna have to stop you there for a second, let me wipe these tears away from my eyes........ from laughing. I've never ever had a good experience with Lynx Art and frankbitcoin. There is no "heArd-mind" here. I've been a hater(rightfully so) for a long time don't worry, when I saw this thread and what has transpired I knew NOTHING had changed, ownership/company still shit.. I wouldn't even be able to tell that it changed hands.

How can you "frankbitcoin" (the promoter) and now "Tom" (the owner) both be so blind to have let this slipped by. It took all of 5 seconds with a google search for many people on this board to find out you guys were trying to reach into our pockets and yoink some real easy profit. I believe I've said it before to you... always "gimmie gimmie". Maybe fire an artist and hire a quality control person.. need more tips? That'll be $899 for the next one.

Dropping vizique and minerjones' names here isn't going to do anything for you either. They've got a little bit more class than I do so they stay out of the mud slinging. Sometimes silence is a hint.
Did you guys come back due to the steady influx of new members that may not know about one-a-day-frank?

Best advice to Tom is to make an account and put this fire out yourself. dumpsterfirefrank isn't doing you any favors. You don't need an admin here to okay or approve your account creation.