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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 19, 2019, 11:33:38 PM

have to mention that to buysolar

that is my whole intention - build a data center and rent out at least half the space to companies looking to have offsite back ups or to store their servers - that pays my bills and then use the rest of the building to mine. but I cant get a loan unless i can get the electric company to commit to the transformer and they are being bitches about it. I am sure it is normally an easy task and this delay is mostly due to my lack of experience in this type of shit.

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on April 19, 2019, 10:24:35 PM

not to mention if mining is unprofitable you could double as a data center and rent out rack space to non mining entities.

have to mention that to buysolar

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not to mention if mining is unprofitable you could double as a data center and rent out rack space to non mining entities.

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That's not bad only having to commit the load for 1 year. Well worth the potential risk, even if the worst were to happen the core infrastructure is there. No to mention the ability to be flexible and find a balance. I'm curious if these scenarios have been discussed with the Business/Landowner. If there is no mining are you and Buysolar out? I ask as that's the new potential risk I see of being left holding the bag on hardware.

Not a problem if you don't want to get to far into details.

I remembered the map, it reminded me of the mining town I grew up in , it's still weird to me sometimes when I don't taste a little sulfur in the air. Something good has come from it at least on the state level to help push towards renewable sources is a positive.

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Once panels are in we will need to mine with the load for 1 year.

We will be able then sell some of the power and mine .

Or stay all mining.

Once again NJ RULES not in many other states.

NJ has the air pollution issues caused by coal power plants in PA,OH,WV,IL,IN,IA

I did a screen shot on page 2:

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 17, 2019, 03:56:05 PM

Yeah but we get credits from NJ that help so it evens out.

All the bad air from all the coal fired power plants running from Illinois to PA is the reason NJ does this.

you can see the air pollution path below

https://i.imgur.com/M7NbsmU.png

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Nice. That's a huge plus that you can sell off what you don't use. Really takes the risk out of the operation especially once it's been up and running mining for a while. Let's say hypothetically the bottom falls out of mining for a while or gets unpredictable come the halving. You can just turn around and turn a profit as an energy producer.

Are there any stipulation on the load being permanent after the panels are installed?

Honestly Clifton is a gold mine of info for the home miners right now. The way you are filling and splitting your 30 amp circuits gives us a nice idea what gear to buy to maximize our circuits. I'm not going to benefit from that, as I forged ahead January-March to upgrade. It may help come fall though when I make heating decisions as opposed to efficiency.

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Quote from: Steamtyme on April 17, 2019, 08:51:37 PM

Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location.

Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies.

I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential.

Load needs proof. 3-6 months at higher then what you really want to have them extrapolate a yearly Average.

The load is not as much for rebates and credits as it is to justify the amount of the panels.

Lets say you have 50 acres and do 250 panels of 320 watts an acre (bigger then us by far)

that would be 50 x 250 x 320 = 4 megawatts/7 = 571,428 watts or 570 kwatts 24/7/365

This is not justified unless you are using 570 kwatts an hour. So they would classify you as a commercial power plant = rules and regs up the butt.

Especially since NJ will now allow you to sell power to your neighbors at 8 cents which is actually a little better then BTC pays if you mine.

The nicest thing about using mining to increase your load is you have a backup if mining fails which is selling power to your neighbors at 8 cents.

I don't know that we will every get the big place but the clifton spot is still pretty good.

If we get the big place we would rotate all the lessor gear out of Clifton and move it to the new place.

We would then load Clifton up with the m10's and the M20's Maybe just maybe some M21's.

I also have been talking with Steve from Avalon we may do a few A1021's

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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 17, 2019, 09:29:52 PM

The Clifton location is 👍 we are going to have a lot hash there.

niiiiiiceeeeee! super jealous lol.

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Quote from: Steamtyme on April 17, 2019, 08:51:37 PM

Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location.

Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies.

I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential.

The Clifton location is 👍 we are going to have a lot hash there.

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Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location.

Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies.

I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential.

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At yankees we could use 30 m20's for 2040 - 2100 th pulling 99000 watts.

To do this we would need 2 more panels.

It may not cool well enough with 99000 watts of power on a hot day.

Last rack of gear

1) 2x a721's, 1 t15 = 3,000 watts
2) 5x s9's, 1 pc = 6,600 watts

3) 7 L3+ 5,600 watts
4) 8 L3+ 6,400 watts

21,000 watts.

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Phil that first rack has 43,000 watts and 29 miners on it if you had 13 m20's you could replace the whole wattage footprint as 13 x 3300 = 42,900 watts it would also hash 884 to 910 th

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Oh ocd right Grin

Don't worry We will sort gear better once we put in more power panels. The 2 panels we are using have 18x 30 amp circuits we need to balance loads as the panels are rated at 225 amps each We try to do each and every circuit at 18-21 amps so 18 x 21 = 378 amps of load most circuits are at 18 amps or 324 amps about 162 a panel.

So making neat rows of all m10's is second to make 18 circuits at 18-21 amps.

Once we get 2 more panels we will have the luxury of shifting racks to a nice clean order of gear.

second rack is light on gear

1) a pdu out of sight
2) 2 s9's = 2,600 watts
3) 3 L3+ = 2,400 watts

4) 2 s7ln's. 1 s9 2,700 watts
5) 1 gpu rig 700 watts

only 8,400 watts.

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That Row of m10's is impressive You need to move you other m10 to it and move the T2Turbo

That way you will have a row of all eight m10's Grin

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I estimate 68-71kwatts

620th BTC

9.8gh LTC

More photos

this rack has 5 levels

1) 4 s9, 1 m10 = 7,500watts
2) 5 s9, 1 s17, 1 L3 = 8,100watts
3) 7 m10, 1 t2turbo = 16,200watts

4) 4 s9, 1L3 = 6,000watts
5) 2 s9, 1L3,1 a921 = 5,200 watts

So this rack has more then 43000 watts.

the other racks are less.

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How much power are you pulling now 70k?

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driving up tomorrow to talk with clifton warehouse owner. and add 3 s9's along with 4 l3+

we have been in limbo on second buildout hope to find more news on it soon.

Got back from Clifton that build is doing well.

video will be live at: https://youtu.be/LXTn9LUI45o

The gear is so loud my voice is drowned out. 85db+ noise level

Photos coming up soon
imgur is also slow

even with super fan temps inside are 92f

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Rofl.

Yeah Phil have you heard about BTC and it's potential. It's really hard to tell considering you know everything written in this thread. Had to post this.

On topic now have you had any news on the next location i think you said potential for 2 MW?

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Quote from: Steamtyme on April 01, 2019, 06:39:49 PM

You weren't kidding no messing around there. Between that and the size of the warehouse should be a pretty smooth summer. Is it set to a thermostat or just running constant?

It has a thermostat. Set to 85f for now.

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Do it right, do it once?

Hope so.

Quote from: ZimbaCardi on April 01, 2019, 06:27:58 PM

Looks like a beast, so that should vent 56 S9, how many M10 or better yet how many M20? The link is busted BTW.

there are

20 s9 set to medium and low speeds... about .... 22kwatts .............. to be replaced by m20's
18 l3+ watts saver software about....... about .... 12.6 kwatts
08 m10 full speed.............................. about .... 17.6 kwatts
04 S7Ln med speed .......................... about .... 2.8 kwatts ............ to be replaced by m20's
02 A721 -1 volt setting ...................... about .... 1.5 kwatts ........... to be replaced by m20's
01 A921 -1 volt setting ...................... about .... 1.9 kwatts
01 s15 high speed.............................. about .... 1.6 kwatts
01 t15 high speed............................... about .... 1.6 kwatts
01 T2turbo24 eco setting .................... about .... 1.4 kwatts

all told 565 th btc and 8.5 gh ltc say 63 kwatts

we have

1 l3+ that drops out a lot
2 s9's that drop out a lot.

All l3+
and all s9 are older gear so 35 of 38 working well is pretty good set of numbers

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Note we paid well under the 1600 usd price

We have about 26 kwatts to be replaced by m20's

so 8 m20's looks like the plan.

This is a small farm or a medium small at best.
Our setup can push to 90-95 kwatts (we can do one more panel in our space)
28 m20's that is 2.016ph in the space we have.

When I think of a big farm say 1 megawatt it would be 16x the gear.

If the m20 v1 72th work well.

1000kwatt/3.3kwatts = 300 m20's per megawatt of power for a m20 v1 setup does 21.6 ph

1000kwatt/1.3kwatts = 769 s9's per megawatt of power for a s9 setup does 10.384 ph

We will be looking at a huge change in mining in the next year and 2 months.

When I see scale like mine and I think of forum member fanatic_26 pushing to maybe 60 mega watts of gear I am humbled to think of running at best 30 m20 v1's when he could be doing 18000 m20 v1's.

oh here is the other photo of the fan install

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