New casino vs old and trusted one - page 18.

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Quote from: BTCLovingDude on February 13, 2017, 08:01:14 AM

the old casinos that are considered trustworthy today were all new and with no trust once. they all built their trust up over time.

in my opinion we still have room for more casinos and more games. although some of the games which have many players such as dice are full, and a new casino with those games will have hard time becoming famous.

but if they start newer games, and if they can make the new games interesting enough for people to play them, they can easily grow and grow fast.

It is hard to trust new casino's, but if they come up with new games and some new offers to players, then those casino's will improve very fast. And players requirement is easy to play and less house edge. First one they will give but second one bit tough. If they provide this facility, then more players show interest to play on their sites. I trust old casinos and also I will encourage new casinos with a good reputation in the beginning.

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Quote from: Red-Apple on February 12, 2017, 10:06:45 AM

that is going to be a stupid way of scamming people!
you know, scammers are all looking for a quick way of making money. to rob others as fast as possible and as big as possible to move on to the next scam. and what you said takes a long time.

and besides a successful casino with "thousands of coins swirling around" is already making a fortune and that is every day making profit not just a one time kind of thing!

that's naive. real scammers do it properly and if you do it properly you only have to do it once.

you could say the exact same thing about darknet markets. many of them do exit scams too.

you can either scratch around here stealing 5 btc via bullshit ponzi schemes, or you can spend a few months and a decent outlay and wind up stealing a few thousand btc by piling up the customers and then running for it.

again that would be a one time big amount scam!
people who are playing with large amounts never keep their coins on the site, they withdraw their amount and deposit the next day to continue playing, so the casino never has that much.
also most of these guys are losing to the house edge,... so it really doesn't matter.

but i feel like you and i don't see eye to eye on the amount of profit these casinos are making each day.

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Quote from: ricardobs on February 12, 2017, 03:54:12 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on February 11, 2017, 11:29:01 PM

new can be very popular in a short period if they feature a certain kind of games and/or function. old can be like new if they renovate it, but often abandoned if they are unpopular and/or awful operation management. trusted one is much better, it remains dependent of their stuffs.

in a nutshell, house edge and its fairness matters the gambling site.

Pretty true that !
Actually when new sites comes like bitsler came they attracted everyone by their Flash bets, cool and supportive admin plus a very nice string of events like bounty rolls and a lot more.
I personally use to play there a lot but right now kind of empty hands Tongue

Not all the newcomer become more popular rather than the older one
As long the old site promising a new feature, something that makes people not bored
I think the old one will still popular , as their priority is to get paid not to get scammed
In the early days, new sites will have lack of trust.

New sites need some time to gain that trust from the people, and that can be achieved with good marketing and service. If these sites come up with useful features and they provide good support for all the player's issues, then they can easily gain the trust over the time. If they are series in doing business they can overtake old sites trust level also.

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the old casinos that are considered trustworthy today were all new and with no trust once. they all built their trust up over time.

in my opinion we still have room for more casinos and more games. although some of the games which have many players such as dice are full, and a new casino with those games will have hard time becoming famous.

but if they start newer games, and if they can make the new games interesting enough for people to play them, they can easily grow and grow fast.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 12, 2017, 08:16:07 AM

Quote from: novemberwoah on February 12, 2017, 07:55:48 AM

The new casino has the chance to popular today as long as it can keep the popularity and still have trust, and it takes time. I am sure the new casino attracted by events such as bonuses, cashback, etc. Signature campaign also helps to introduce casino on bitcoin users, so I think it could help.

I can say that new casinos needs to be aggressive enough in advertising and promotions due the big competition in the bitcoin world, they need to gain the trust of the people and that is not easy here.
While for old casinos, they just have to maintain their reputation to continue to please their clients, what makes them successful is their ability to retain their gamblers and to attract new players. Trust is vital for them so they have to protect it all the time.

Yes true I mean like that, the point from which you said is that the new casino must be aggressive to get the trust while the old casino must maintain trust. Indeed, trust is very important for both of them so many casino sites (both new and old casino) using a various ways so that they can get trust. Very difficult to build trust, it takes hard work.

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Quote from: densuj on February 11, 2017, 10:27:18 PM

Old casino are more trusted and recomended because will many reviews from other gamblers,
old casino has proof from old gamblers and experience how to manage their service.
So their service will not disappointing new costumers when play casino on there and
old casino has a little risk getting scam than new casino.

Old casinos is not always trusted and recommended, reviews are also can be made by shills to make the casino looks so good. Example 999dice, it is an old dice site but it cant be trusted and many people recommend to stay away from it.

At least there are reviews from other gamblers although it is bad reviews, than there are not reviews from other gamblers like on new casino and it is mean the risk is more high than old casino because of there are not reviews from other gamblers.

I agree if i'd prefer old casino rather than a new one too, since it is still a new site and there is no many people have experienced on that new site. But doesn't make sense if you are prefer to gamble in gambling sites which has bad reviews (scam accusation, bad contact support, etc) rather than a new site.

Of course not, I will not play on old casino which bad reviews, that is why I am looking for old casino with positive feed back than new casino without any feedback.
I don't want become victim scam of new casino gambling site, so I don't want taking high risk with play gambling on new casino.

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Quote from: ricardobs on February 12, 2017, 03:54:12 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on February 11, 2017, 11:29:01 PM

new can be very popular in a short period if they feature a certain kind of games and/or function. old can be like new if they renovate it, but often abandoned if they are unpopular and/or awful operation management. trusted one is much better, it remains dependent of their stuffs.

in a nutshell, house edge and its fairness matters the gambling site.

Pretty true that !
Actually when new sites comes like bitsler came they attracted everyone by their Flash bets, cool and supportive admin plus a very nice string of events like bounty rolls and a lot more.
I personally use to play there a lot but right now kind of empty hands Tongue

These are in their initial stage of their start and they know well that if they will not give promos and will not give focus to their members then no one will leave the old and trusted sites and will not come to play in their sites. But when they notice that now their site are established enough then they bring their site to normality like other sites.

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Quote from: Maslate on February 13, 2017, 03:56:33 AM

Quote from: rizkyhiw on February 13, 2017, 03:02:57 AM

Quote from: ricardobs on February 12, 2017, 03:54:12 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on February 11, 2017, 11:29:01 PM

new can be very popular in a short period if they feature a certain kind of games and/or function. old can be like new if they renovate it, but often abandoned if they are unpopular and/or awful operation management. trusted one is much better, it remains dependent of their stuffs.

in a nutshell, house edge and its fairness matters the gambling site.

Pretty true that !
Actually when new sites comes like bitsler came they attracted everyone by their Flash bets, cool and supportive admin plus a very nice string of events like bounty rolls and a lot more.
I personally use to play there a lot but right now kind of empty hands Tongue

Not all the newcomer become more popular rather than the older one
As long the old site promising a new feature, something that makes people not bored
I think the old one will still popular , as their priority is to get paid not to get scammed
In the early days, new sites will have lack of trust.

The old one will continue to be popular if they keep improving their service, they also have to compete with the existing casinos online and when there is more competition, gamblers can be benefited as we will really gonna get satisfaction with gambling. What is important for them to maintain is to have an outstanding support, easy and fast deposit and withdrawals. In addition, bonuses or promotions can attract new gamblers, they should consider that as well.

I agree that old casino will continue to be popular but if they will not improve their service, its no wonder competition with other new and upgraded casinos will overthrown them by most efficient services and high prizes. That's true that new gamblers will be attracted with those bonuses, promotions and rewards which we can consider its a part of business competition in gambling, so the new casino has the most advantages rather than an old trusted one.

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Quote from: rizkyhiw on February 13, 2017, 03:02:57 AM

Quote from: ricardobs on February 12, 2017, 03:54:12 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on February 11, 2017, 11:29:01 PM

new can be very popular in a short period if they feature a certain kind of games and/or function. old can be like new if they renovate it, but often abandoned if they are unpopular and/or awful operation management. trusted one is much better, it remains dependent of their stuffs.

in a nutshell, house edge and its fairness matters the gambling site.

Pretty true that !
Actually when new sites comes like bitsler came they attracted everyone by their Flash bets, cool and supportive admin plus a very nice string of events like bounty rolls and a lot more.
I personally use to play there a lot but right now kind of empty hands Tongue

Not all the newcomer become more popular rather than the older one
As long the old site promising a new feature, something that makes people not bored
I think the old one will still popular , as their priority is to get paid not to get scammed
In the early days, new sites will have lack of trust.

The old one will continue to be popular if they keep improving their service, they also have to compete with the existing casinos online and when there is more competition, gamblers can be benefited as we will really gonna get satisfaction with gambling. What is important for them to maintain is to have an outstanding support, easy and fast deposit and withdrawals. In addition, bonuses or promotions can attract new gamblers, they should consider that as well.

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Quote from: ricardobs on February 12, 2017, 03:54:12 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on February 11, 2017, 11:29:01 PM

new can be very popular in a short period if they feature a certain kind of games and/or function. old can be like new if they renovate it, but often abandoned if they are unpopular and/or awful operation management. trusted one is much better, it remains dependent of their stuffs.

in a nutshell, house edge and its fairness matters the gambling site.

Pretty true that !
Actually when new sites comes like bitsler came they attracted everyone by their Flash bets, cool and supportive admin plus a very nice string of events like bounty rolls and a lot more.
I personally use to play there a lot but right now kind of empty hands Tongue

Not all the newcomer become more popular rather than the older one
As long the old site promising a new feature, something that makes people not bored
I think the old one will still popular , as their priority is to get paid not to get scammed
In the early days, new sites will have lack of trust.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 11, 2017, 08:39:14 AM

We know many quite old and trusted casinos like Primedice, Safedice, Crypto-games etc. And yet I see there are many new casinos appearing like Bonanza or BtcDragon. Do new ones have a chance of becoming popular nowadays? And what can bring populatiry to a new casino? I think new casinos attract investors, because there is a low bankroll there which strengthens such casinos. What else can help? Do you think a signature campaign makes big difference, for example?

For gamblers they always prefer old and trusted sites because its already hard to win and after winning you don't want to test your luck again if the owner is honest or not.
But yeah if some new game comes up people go for it, while if a new dice sites shows up. I would always prefer old ones.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 11, 2017, 08:39:14 AM

We know many quite old and trusted casinos like Primedice, Safedice, Crypto-games etc. And yet I see there are many new casinos appearing like Bonanza or BtcDragon. Do new ones have a chance of becoming popular nowadays? And what can bring populatiry to a new casino? I think new casinos attract investors, because there is a low bankroll there which strengthens such casinos. What else can help? Do you think a signature campaign makes big difference, for example?

They are becoming popular because of their advertising like BtcDragon and of course when a new casino when became popular, they will attract both investors and gamblers that can lead them to sales / profit. And yes signature campaign is really a big help to those new casino's because it can make awareness here in forum.

a gambling site can only get the favour of people if they are not receiving 100 % house edge. and if they are giving some advantage to their users and let them make money according to their investment and skill i think then people will put more confident on it and more and more people will be attracted toward their gambling sites and will make it more profitable for them.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 11, 2017, 08:39:14 AM

We know many quite old and trusted casinos like Primedice, Safedice, Crypto-games etc. And yet I see there are many new casinos appearing like Bonanza or BtcDragon. Do new ones have a chance of becoming popular nowadays? And what can bring populatiry to a new casino? I think new casinos attract investors, because there is a low bankroll there which strengthens such casinos. What else can help? Do you think a signature campaign makes big difference, for example?

They are becoming popular because of their advertising like BtcDragon and of course when a new casino when became popular, they will attract both investors and gamblers that can lead them to sales / profit. And yes signature campaign is really a big help to those new casino's because it can make awareness here in forum.

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Quote from: sulendra12 on February 11, 2017, 08:49:21 PM

Old gambling sites more have an experience regarding fixing the problem/bug and making a promotion. Yet new casino has a potential to be a trustworthy one like Bitsler did. When new sites coming up currently, and have any similarity I'm going to old sites.

It is a mixed bag. Look at Satoshi Dice today - absolute mess of a site.

Satoshi dice used to be one of the biggest if not the biggest dice site, but since then many other good casinos have open shop and have taken the spot out of the hands of satoshi dice, satoshi dice used to have a signature campaign in the forum but they pull that off as well, maybe they were not getting the results they wanted.

Did SatoshiDice inform you why they withdrew their signature campaign?

Is there a site where you can compare the revenue of dice sites?

Do you know why betcoin.ag reduced their signature campaign to max 100 posts per month in December 2016? Since then, betcoin.ag is in free fall on
Alexa Global Rank: 158,569 - 50,100 = 48% down!

Was it a good idea to limit their signature campaign and the free fall is caused by something else?

Discussion here: Let us talk about a Bitcoin poker room in free fall, betcoin.ag

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Quote from: TOPBTCCASINOS on February 11, 2017, 11:22:45 PM

Quote from: sulendra12 on February 11, 2017, 08:49:21 PM

Old gambling sites more have an experience regarding fixing the problem/bug and making a promotion. Yet new casino has a potential to be a trustworthy one like Bitsler did. When new sites coming up currently, and have any similarity I'm going to old sites.

It is a mixed bag. Look at Satoshi Dice today - absolute mess of a site.

Satoshi dice used to be one of the biggest if not the biggest dice site, but since then many other good casinos have open shop and have taken the spot out of the hands of satoshi dice, satoshi dice used to have a signature campaign in the forum but they pull that off as well, maybe they were not getting the results they wanted.

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Quote from: lottery248 on February 11, 2017, 11:29:01 PM

new can be very popular in a short period if they feature a certain kind of games and/or function. old can be like new if they renovate it, but often abandoned if they are unpopular and/or awful operation management. trusted one is much better, it remains dependent of their stuffs.

in a nutshell, house edge and its fairness matters the gambling site.

Pretty true that !
Actually when new sites comes like bitsler came they attracted everyone by their Flash bets, cool and supportive admin plus a very nice string of events like bounty rolls and a lot more.
I personally use to play there a lot but right now kind of empty hands Tongue

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on February 11, 2017, 09:22:21 PM

Even new ones will have a good faucets, games and even a high house edge, though they cannot give their full trust to some new casinos without even knowing if they will be. And i will really pick the old casinos because it is the trusted and proven sites and casinos.

I choose the new sites only if they have some attractive events like chat trivia, some bonus or free rolls and something like that.
Is it only me or you also think the same : new sites martingale works much easier and longer while on sites like PD we bust too soon, is it because of some seeds randomization ?

Quote from: kryptqnick on February 11, 2017, 08:39:14 AM

I think new casinos attract investors, because there is a low bankroll there which strengthens such casinos. What else can help? Do you think a signature campaign makes big difference, for example?

No. I will never touch new gambling sites for investment purposes. It is too risky. Rather I would prefer sticking with crypto-games kind of well established sites even the reason you have mentioned is not applicable.

Quote from: kryptqnick on February 11, 2017, 08:39:14 AM

Do you think a signature campaign makes big difference, for example?

Signature campaign for new or old site will not make any big differences. Through campaigns sites stay competitive. Probably campaigns help new sites to get established to enter the race.

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Quote from: abel1337 on February 12, 2017, 10:24:39 AM

Old casino's that are existing these days are mostly legit because there gamblers are playing their everday thats why they survived. Most of the New casino's now are running same scheme that is giving a very large gambling promo and giving aways a large amount of bitcoins .

Yes old gambling sites are right places to trust on for our bitcoins to wager but sometimes when new casino come then they pay some interesting promos to the players then everyone like to gamble on these new casino for grabbing the chance.

Some gamblers would really grab those promos specially if they saw that they are worth it to play thats why new casinos or gambling sites do still really have the chance to caught players attention by just a good promotion/giveaways and the most important of all is the provably fair system of the site.

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Quote from: abel1337 on February 12, 2017, 10:24:39 AM

Old casino's that are existing these days are mostly legit because there gamblers are playing their everday thats why they survived. Most of the New casino's now are running same scheme that is giving a very large gambling promo and giving aways a large amount of bitcoins .

Yes old gambling sites are right places to trust on for our bitcoins to wager but sometimes when new casino come then they provide for the gamblers some interesting promos then everyone like to gamble on these new casino for grabbing the chance. There are a lot of people who are in their initial stage of gambling so they do not want to spend much on gambling and for that purpose they often like to visit the new casino to get the chance for free gambling to learn gambling.

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Quote from: Red-Apple on February 12, 2017, 10:06:45 AM

that is going to be a stupid way of scamming people!
you know, scammers are all looking for a quick way of making money. to rob others as fast as possible and as big as possible to move on to the next scam. and what you said takes a long time.

and besides a successful casino with "thousands of coins swirling around" is already making a fortune and that is every day making profit not just a one time kind of thing!

that's naive. real scammers do it properly and if you do it properly you only have to do it once.

you could say the exact same thing about darknet markets. many of them do exit scams too.

you can either scratch around here stealing 5 btc via bullshit ponzi schemes, or you can spend a few months and a decent outlay and wind up stealing a few thousand btc by piling up the customers and then running for it.

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