Topic: new ckpool club run by philipma1957 with a nod to Member ziploc - page 3. (Read 5049 times)

no i wrote order 78515 was out bid and dropping

and now a second high bid occurred so 781515  is zeroed out for now.

I also wrote 781525 is running well and just bit over 370.
I have some time right now so playing around with the two orders is fun  to do.

you can see why bots suck as they would have jumped me 2 or 3 times on the idle order . i did one jump vs 2 or 3

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/164o6jGhpciHC8Lg4XiXyprKfrqZK3tST6

still at a high of 57 billion

could it be that it's the opposite....I'm seeing 781525 running.....

nice

I think our best miners from before were pulled out by 1,6Peta west hash order #781278....I was watching it for some time and thought if will stop at some point....

and the work starts I am bumping the nice hash from .0072 to .0073 as someone has out bid us

so order 781515 at 370 th is now at .0073 on nice hash due to being out bid it dropped to 13 th and will take time to build to 370th.

the west hash order 781525 has jumped to 392th this does happen

I am stopping both and switching to un fixed.

we now have 3.2483803 to mine with

make it 3.2483802  they hold .00000001

new order is #781515 at nice hash   price is .0072 not fixed  I did half  about 1.624




second new order is 781525 at west hash

370 th  price is .0073

I was wondering about that too....only 1 decent share but not good enough....


maybe we should stop and restart the rent, miners....maybe we will get another batch more lucky ?



Often if I'm not mistaking, people hit blocks right from the start or almost....

we just crossed over the 10,000,000,000 shares point...best is still 57,632,365,146.529419

Let the luck be with us

Next game we can increase ur fee . and anyway you have the Rights to do what you see good .

We hope to hit a block this night to resume this Allie .

I would be willing to do a pair of  non fixed orders with  some of our remaining 1.5 btc

I could set it at .0071 and .0072  and hope that the no limit guy drops out  and gives us some cheaper hash.  



I could do 250th at .0071  .5 btc and it would sit

I could do 250th at .0072  .5 btc  and it would sit

we would have .5btc left over

It is possible rentals drop and we get some cheaper hash.

lets do some math on this.

pretend we do it and it works

.0071 would be 6.76 hours of hash time
.0072 would be 6.67 hours of hash time
.0076 would be 6.32 hours of hash time

the reason .0073 is the lowest not .0071 is a guy has  no limit at .0072    that will make the .0071 order go away.

if we go in at .0071 we get zip and wait

if we go in at .0072  we are under the  no limit guy and sit and wait.

if we do .0073  we start now.

BTW .0073 is  'odds in our favor'

When I would go for best price  I may do 20 orders each one has a tiny fee.  I may check 1000 times in 2 or 3 days.  And I may make the group wait 2 or 3 or 4 days with no hash running.  it is hard to do.

 7.5 btc  - my .65 = 6.85 btc

fee was 1% or .0685 that is  20 bucks

so for 20 bucks  I give hours of labor and I safe guard 7.5btc so that it gets spent correctly on the hash.

If we win I send it out correctly.  

 Now you have a fair point about what is correct price for the easy service vs the price hunting service.

1% for what I agreed to do for this seems more then fair to me.  As 20 bucks for 2-3 hours of labor and fund safely managed  is low cost.

To hunt for cheap rentals and manage them is much more time consuming.  Bots suck at it compared to hands on scanning of all orders.

and nice-west hash changed the formats the change makes my work harder as it hides info that was available.  ie remaining time on all orders was viewable and is now hidden.

This reason is the single biggest reason I don't want to hunt for best price.  I could explain it in detail but simply put

 I could view the btc left on orders ahead of my orders and decide to stay put or go higher. This is now hidden to me and the rest of us.

It was not perfect info since a guy with 100th and .000002 btc left  could add more coin.  Still the info helped a lot when bargain hunting.

Also I resent that the pool op of nice/west hash  could view it and make decisions based on better info then anyone else.

When I manage my own rentals it is not a big factor as i go low and if out bid I wait.

 For our group waiting days if prices are high can be annoying.  I also find the constant decision making to confuse the partners.

right now the lowest order on nicehash is .0073  not .0071

see screen shot



  

exactly it's not easy to find a person that you will trust with your BTC, not only ones you pay....

but also the ones that you win if we hit some blocks

anw there's some BTC left and I think he was supposed to try to rent something cheaper...


all this was hashed and rehashed if I can say it like that.....

if you didn't read before jumping in.....then what you want me to say.....

fee was discussed upfront...

fixed hash because of time....the difficulty is going up...

and managing the payments isn't easy.....specially with unequal shares...

We can pay more if he accept to handle this

His (very small) fee is justified by his reputation, not just the amount of work he puts in.  I'll gladly chip in 0.01 to know that if we hit I will get my reward.

Guys I have a point to discus , But plz philip dont understand me wrong , Its just a point

If we pay a fee to you to manage this rental, and you only create an fixed order then you go . anyone can do that

I think your main work is to rent @ best cheap price like 0.0071 or 0.0072 and monitor this order to ensure that it alive .

But you just create fixed order @ 0.0076 . we can save more and got about 2 extra hours if we rent @ 0.0072

My idea is to create fixed order @ 100 TH  AND create another standard order 600TH  @ 0.0071 and monitor it

sounds good to me. fingers crossed

A quick update  we have 1.5 coins left.

@ BannedDk   please wait until next game.


the time on the current rentals is 13 hours  https://www.nicehash.com/?p=orders

fixed rentals end after 24 hours  so these will end close to 11pm tonight .

 I will buy replacement fixed 350th each but around 6 hours.

we will get about 29-30 hours of 350th at each site .