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legendary
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November 17, 2022, 08:28:32 PM
#49
ETH is going to fail. It is a dead man walking. The only thing saving it is the sating is frozen and zero profit come out of the staked coins at the moment.

Eth will likely hold price as the big boys slowly sell it off. Most won't realize that scam until the stake coins are unlocked in late 2023 or even 2024.
Are you saying that unstaking is impossible?
According to statistics, there are not very many coins in staking, it is 12 percent. If there were 50% of the coins in staking, then I would be afraid of massive sales after unstaking.

A staked coin is frozen at the moment. So it is stuck. I suppose If I had a fullly staked node I could sell it off.

I have under 1 coin staked at coinbase. For all intents and purposes it cant by unlocked.

I would not sell my entire coinbase acccount to someone. Even if it only had 300 usd worth of eth. Selling the account would mean the buyer gets my kyc.

I have a simple question how long before eth unlocks the staked earnings. as of today noone knows that answer. maybe 2023 maybe 2024 .
coinbase doesn't give other tokens in return like Lido Staked Ether?
I was not interested in staking due to the fact that mining gives much more profit and there is no risk of losing money on the exchange.
Can you spend your staking profits?

Nope. I did 300 usd at the time eth was 1500 a coin. It gets 4%  so since eth dropped in price it is worth well under $300 even with the 4% interest. It will be frozen for at least 2023. It is well under 1% of my mining gear.

the
LTC/DOGE
BTC
Grin
KDA
Gpu
gear ain't worth much as it was. It is paid off and still turns a profit just not much of one.

We were over 30k a month we are well under 10k.

and it is a 4 way split.
legendary
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November 17, 2022, 05:42:21 AM
#48
ETH is going to fail. It is a dead man walking. The only thing saving it is the sating is frozen and zero profit come out of the staked coins at the moment.

Eth will likely hold price as the big boys slowly sell it off. Most won't realize that scam until the stake coins are unlocked in late 2023 or even 2024.
Are you saying that unstaking is impossible?
According to statistics, there are not very many coins in staking, it is 12 percent. If there were 50% of the coins in staking, then I would be afraid of massive sales after unstaking.

A staked coin is frozen at the moment. So it is stuck. I suppose If I had a fullly staked node I could sell it off.

I have under 1 coin staked at coinbase. For all intents and purposes it cant by unlocked.

I would not sell my entire coinbase acccount to someone. Even if it only had 300 usd worth of eth. Selling the account would mean the buyer gets my kyc.

I have a simple question how long before eth unlocks the staked earnings. as of today noone knows that answer. maybe 2023 maybe 2024 .
coinbase doesn't give other tokens in return like Lido Staked Ether?
I was not interested in staking due to the fact that mining gives much more profit and there is no risk of losing money on the exchange.
Can you spend your staking profits?
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
November 16, 2022, 09:55:15 AM
#47
ETH is going to fail. It is a dead man walking. The only thing saving it is the sating is frozen and zero profit come out of the staked coins at the moment.

Eth will likely hold price as the big boys slowly sell it off. Most won't realize that scam until the stake coins are unlocked in late 2023 or even 2024.
Are you saying that unstaking is impossible?
According to statistics, there are not very many coins in staking, it is 12 percent. If there were 50% of the coins in staking, then I would be afraid of massive sales after unstaking.

A staked coin is frozen at the moment. So it is stuck. I suppose If I had a fullly staked node I could sell it off.

I have under 1 coin staked at coinbase. For all intents and purposes it cant by unlocked.

I would not sell my entire coinbase acccount to someone. Even if it only had 300 usd worth of eth. Selling the account would mean the buyer gets my kyc.

I have a simple question how long before eth unlocks the staked earnings. as of today noone knows that answer. maybe 2023 maybe 2024 .
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1136
November 16, 2022, 01:57:34 AM
#46
ETH is going to fail. It is a dead man walking. The only thing saving it is the sating is frozen and zero profit come out of the staked coins at the moment.

Eth will likely hold price as the big boys slowly sell it off. Most won't realize that scam until the stake coins are unlocked in late 2023 or even 2024.
Are you saying that unstaking is impossible?
According to statistics, there are not very many coins in staking, it is 12 percent. If there were 50% of the coins in staking, then I would be afraid of massive sales after unstaking.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
November 15, 2022, 12:57:54 PM
#45
NVIDIA has problems with video card sales and their marketers don't know what to do to increase video card sales.

NVIDIA RTX 4080 12GB now to be called RTX 4070 Ti
As expected, NVIDIA is changing the name of the ‘unlaunched’ GPU.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-to-replace-canceled-rtx-4080-12gb-sku-launch-in-janaury

Of course they are going to have problems,Ethereum going to PoS killed their sales and will continue to do so until we have another coin which will substitute the Ethereum and be as good as Ethereum in mining rewards in order for them to recover their sales.That LHR bullshit that they came up with so to say that we are pleasing the gamers was just done to shut some of the gamers up but they knew very well that their main market and earnings which were huge by the way in 2021 is exactly because of mining. I don't feel sorry for them the slightest.

I feel sorry for Mr. V.B. he has a long list of enemies by now.

I don't feel sorry for him either,I am waiting not that patiently to see his so famous ETH that has got to green energy PoS fail miserably like many of us have predicted here.Meanwhile as I wait I have got nothing better to do than mine some ETHW and hope for the best for the upcoming crypto bull run,many don't expect it anytime soon but I think it will surprise us all how soon it will be here.

I like that some bull runs deep in your belief.

the POS shitstorms with centralized exchange scam[scam token/scam trading sauce/scam tokens/scam hack] and SEC/governments attacks might bring life and change tide for the old good decentralized mining for the next bull run.

I wonder how come the ETH who moved to PoS is not failing even bigger and that is not going to levels like 150-200 dollars for a coin,I believe the reason is because it is well known in a vast majority of people and also people who mined it and are holding a considerable amount of it do not want it to fail but my advice to them is sell the ETH now while is still over 1000 dollars for a coin otherwise you risk to lose a lot of money because this coin has absolutely no  future and is in the hand of a gang (a bunch of people who can do whatever they like to it).

Hopefully people holding ETH release now that they are in the same situation as holding Bitcoin or other crypto on a centralized exchange because as I said a bunch of people is managing it.

ETH is going to fail. It is a dead man walking. The only thing saving it is the sating is frozen and zero profit come out of the staked coins at the moment.

Eth will likely hold price as the big boys slowly sell it off. Most won't realize that scam until the stake coins are unlocked in late 2023 or even 2024.
legendary
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Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013
November 15, 2022, 09:43:17 AM
#44
NVIDIA has problems with video card sales and their marketers don't know what to do to increase video card sales.

NVIDIA RTX 4080 12GB now to be called RTX 4070 Ti
As expected, NVIDIA is changing the name of the ‘unlaunched’ GPU.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-to-replace-canceled-rtx-4080-12gb-sku-launch-in-janaury

Of course they are going to have problems,Ethereum going to PoS killed their sales and will continue to do so until we have another coin which will substitute the Ethereum and be as good as Ethereum in mining rewards in order for them to recover their sales.That LHR bullshit that they came up with so to say that we are pleasing the gamers was just done to shut some of the gamers up but they knew very well that their main market and earnings which were huge by the way in 2021 is exactly because of mining. I don't feel sorry for them the slightest.

I feel sorry for Mr. V.B. he has a long list of enemies by now.

I don't feel sorry for him either,I am waiting not that patiently to see his so famous ETH that has got to green energy PoS fail miserably like many of us have predicted here.Meanwhile as I wait I have got nothing better to do than mine some ETHW and hope for the best for the upcoming crypto bull run,many don't expect it anytime soon but I think it will surprise us all how soon it will be here.

I like that some bull runs deep in your belief.

the POS shitstorms with centralized exchange scam[scam token/scam trading sauce/scam tokens/scam hack] and SEC/governments attacks might bring life and change tide for the old good decentralized mining for the next bull run.

I wonder how come the ETH who moved to PoS is not failing even bigger and that is not going to levels like 150-200 dollars for a coin,I believe the reason is because it is well known in a vast majority of people and also people who mined it and are holding a considerable amount of it do not want it to fail but my advice to them is sell the ETH now while is still over 1000 dollars for a coin otherwise you risk to lose a lot of money because this coin has absolutely no  future and is in the hand of a gang (a bunch of people who can do whatever they like to it).

Hopefully people holding ETH release now that they are in the same situation as holding Bitcoin or other crypto on a centralized exchange because as I said a bunch of people is managing it.
legendary
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Merit: 1061
November 15, 2022, 04:59:13 AM
#43
NVIDIA has problems with video card sales and their marketers don't know what to do to increase video card sales.

NVIDIA RTX 4080 12GB now to be called RTX 4070 Ti
As expected, NVIDIA is changing the name of the ‘unlaunched’ GPU.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-to-replace-canceled-rtx-4080-12gb-sku-launch-in-janaury

Of course they are going to have problems,Ethereum going to PoS killed their sales and will continue to do so until we have another coin which will substitute the Ethereum and be as good as Ethereum in mining rewards in order for them to recover their sales.That LHR bullshit that they came up with so to say that we are pleasing the gamers was just done to shut some of the gamers up but they knew very well that their main market and earnings which were huge by the way in 2021 is exactly because of mining. I don't feel sorry for them the slightest.

I feel sorry for Mr. V.B. he has a long list of enemies by now.

I don't feel sorry for him either,I am waiting not that patiently to see his so famous ETH that has got to green energy PoS fail miserably like many of us have predicted here.Meanwhile as I wait I have got nothing better to do than mine some ETHW and hope for the best for the upcoming crypto bull run,many don't expect it anytime soon but I think it will surprise us all how soon it will be here.

I like that some bull runs deep in your belief.

the POS shitstorms with centralized exchange scam[scam token/scam trading sauce/scam tokens/scam hack] and SEC/governments attacks might bring life and change tide for the old good decentralized mining for the next bull run.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
November 14, 2022, 08:36:46 PM
#42
NVIDIA has problems with video card sales and their marketers don't know what to do to increase video card sales.

NVIDIA RTX 4080 12GB now to be called RTX 4070 Ti
As expected, NVIDIA is changing the name of the ‘unlaunched’ GPU.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-to-replace-canceled-rtx-4080-12gb-sku-launch-in-janaury

Of course they are going to have problems,Ethereum going to PoS killed their sales and will continue to do so until we have another coin which will substitute the Ethereum and be as good as Ethereum in mining rewards in order for them to recover their sales.That LHR bullshit that they came up with so to say that we are pleasing the gamers was just done to shut some of the gamers up but they knew very well that their main market and earnings which were huge by the way in 2021 is exactly because of mining. I don't feel sorry for them the slightest.

I feel sorry for Mr. V.B. he has a long list of enemies by now.

I don't feel sorry for him either,I am waiting not that patiently to see his so famous ETH that has got to green energy PoS fail miserably like many of us have predicted here.Meanwhile as I wait I have got nothing better to do than mine some ETHW and hope for the best for the upcoming crypto bull run,many don't expect it anytime soon but I think it will surprise us all how soon it will be here.

I like that some bull runs deep in your belief.
legendary
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Merit: 1247
Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013
November 14, 2022, 05:13:41 PM
#41
NVIDIA has problems with video card sales and their marketers don't know what to do to increase video card sales.

NVIDIA RTX 4080 12GB now to be called RTX 4070 Ti
As expected, NVIDIA is changing the name of the ‘unlaunched’ GPU.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-to-replace-canceled-rtx-4080-12gb-sku-launch-in-janaury

Of course they are going to have problems,Ethereum going to PoS killed their sales and will continue to do so until we have another coin which will substitute the Ethereum and be as good as Ethereum in mining rewards in order for them to recover their sales.That LHR bullshit that they came up with so to say that we are pleasing the gamers was just done to shut some of the gamers up but they knew very well that their main market and earnings which were huge by the way in 2021 is exactly because of mining. I don't feel sorry for them the slightest.

I feel sorry for Mr. V.B. he has a long list of enemies by now.

I don't feel sorry for him either,I am waiting not that patiently to see his so famous ETH that has got to green energy PoS fail miserably like many of us have predicted here.Meanwhile as I wait I have got nothing better to do than mine some ETHW and hope for the best for the upcoming crypto bull run,many don't expect it anytime soon but I think it will surprise us all how soon it will be here.
legendary
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Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
November 14, 2022, 12:22:10 PM
#40
NVIDIA has problems with video card sales and their marketers don't know what to do to increase video card sales.

NVIDIA RTX 4080 12GB now to be called RTX 4070 Ti
As expected, NVIDIA is changing the name of the ‘unlaunched’ GPU.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-to-replace-canceled-rtx-4080-12gb-sku-launch-in-janaury

Of course they are going to have problems,Ethereum going to PoS killed their sales and will continue to do so until we have another coin which will substitute the Ethereum and be as good as Ethereum in mining rewards in order for them to recover their sales.That LHR bullshit that they came up with so to say that we are pleasing the gamers was just done to shut some of the gamers up but they knew very well that their main market and earnings which were huge by the way in 2021 is exactly because of mining. I don't feel sorry for them the slightest.

I feel sorry for Mr. V.B. he has a long list of enemies by now.
legendary
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Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013
November 14, 2022, 10:08:57 AM
#39
NVIDIA has problems with video card sales and their marketers don't know what to do to increase video card sales.

NVIDIA RTX 4080 12GB now to be called RTX 4070 Ti
As expected, NVIDIA is changing the name of the ‘unlaunched’ GPU.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-to-replace-canceled-rtx-4080-12gb-sku-launch-in-janaury

Of course they are going to have problems,Ethereum going to PoS killed their sales and will continue to do so until we have another coin which will substitute the Ethereum and be as good as Ethereum in mining rewards in order for them to recover their sales.That LHR bullshit that they came up with so to say that we are pleasing the gamers was just done to shut some of the gamers up but they knew very well that their main market and earnings which were huge by the way in 2021 is exactly because of mining.I don't feel sorry for them the slightest.
legendary
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November 09, 2022, 04:31:18 AM
#38
NVIDIA has problems with video card sales and their marketers don't know what to do to increase video card sales.

NVIDIA RTX 4080 12GB now to be called RTX 4070 Ti
As expected, NVIDIA is changing the name of the ‘unlaunched’ GPU.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-to-replace-canceled-rtx-4080-12gb-sku-launch-in-janaury
legendary
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November 07, 2022, 12:06:24 PM
#37
Peaceful are those days where you can use thunderbolt or Crossfire to run Two graphic cards  Grin with ease, nowadays they want to combine the power of two high end GPU in one box, of course, there will be some bad news  Grin. Maybe AMD will best Nvidia this time around only time will tell.

and it may be that 3090 is the card that has real staying power as a miner.

the 1080ti was still turning a profit up to sept 2022.

my 1080ti hybrids always made some money even in  late 2018 and 2019.

they ran from dec 2017 to sept 2022. still work.
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November 07, 2022, 05:38:08 AM
#36
Peaceful are those days where you can use thunderbolt or Crossfire to run Two graphic cards  Grin with ease, nowadays they want to combine the power of two high end GPU in one box, of course, there will be some bad news  Grin. Maybe AMD will best Nvidia this time around only time will tell.
full member
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November 06, 2022, 10:48:00 PM
#35
No need to analyze adapters anymore…. Maybe someone should analyze how I2R losses work and how they increase as resistance/temperatures rise.  Loose gets hot, hot gets more loose, a self-fulfilling prophecy to a fire.  I know, we need to invent atx 4.0 because 3.0 doesn’t work, seems legit.  12V rails RIP.

https://wccftech.com/native-atx-3-0-16-pin-cable-melts-too-when-connected-to-an-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090/amp/

Agree completely. BTW that's I2R to emphasize it's not linear. Wink
legendary
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November 06, 2022, 10:34:47 PM
#34
nvidia had to do many more tests before launching the 4090 on the market, that cable adapter provided for the additional power is not up to the task so there will always be a risk of fire

they could have done two that were feed by two eight pin connectors.

so four into two which would have likely been better.

It is the board design, adding extra sockets means "flat and wide" copper on the board, maybe there is a trade off in which they choose less socket.

Maybe they are forcing people to not mine on it, just like what those thermal pad issues on the gddr6x's, this power socket issue is just a lot worse case than thermal pads where you can change it easily..more like a hardware LHR, you mine you burn LOLOLOL

It was so dumb that you can't say that's possible for a big tech corporation, if you look at them the same way as big pharma, it is actually a genius move..an evil genius hehe.
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November 06, 2022, 09:52:58 PM
#33
No need to analyze adapters anymore…. Maybe someone should analyze how I2R losses work and how they increase as resistance/temperatures rise.  Loose gets hot, hot gets more loose, a self-fulfilling prophecy to a fire.  I know, we need to invent atx 4.0 because 3.0 doesn’t work, seems legit.  12V rails RIP.

https://wccftech.com/native-atx-3-0-16-pin-cable-melts-too-when-connected-to-an-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090/amp/
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November 06, 2022, 05:17:41 PM
#32
its pretty simple shrinking the 3 eight pin connectors down to the far smaller connector is next to impossible.

and the tdp of the card is 450

i can pull 525 watts on some of my evga 3090s they rate at 350 (need to check that)

but that is 50% higher than the tdp.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/evga-rtx-3090-ftw3-ultra.b8093

under stupid testing feeding it with 3 eight pin cables and an evga 1600 platinum psu I can spike my meter an extra 520-530 watts. i use a taichi mobo and an threadripper. various msi testers can do it.

it usually will blue-screen in under ten minutes when i do it

based on that the 4090 with a tdp could pull 450 x 1.5 = 675 and boom death to the plug or jack.

Going from memory of reading a test report, the 4090 has lots of OC headroom but not much performance gain.
if a 3090 can pull 1.5 x TDP maybe the 4090 can pull even more.
legendary
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November 06, 2022, 05:01:55 PM
#31
nvidia had to do many more tests before launching the 4090 on the market, that cable adapter provided for the additional power is not up to the task so there will always be a risk of fire

they could have done two that were feed by two eight pin connectors.

so four into two which would have likely been better.

A brand new connector that already needs to be doubled up on the first GPU to use it would not be acceptable.
The ATX3 connector is supposed to handle 600W so what gives? Is it poor design or can an OCed 4090 draw more, much more to cause melting.

its pretty simple shrinking the 3 eight pin connectors down to the far smaller connector is next to impossible.

and the tdp of the card is 450

i can pull 525 watts on some of my evga 3090s they rate at 350 (need to check that)

but that is 50% higher than the tdp.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/evga-rtx-3090-ftw3-ultra.b8093

under stupid testing feeding it with 3 eight pin cables and an evga 1600 platinum psu I can spike my meter an extra 520-530 watts. i use a taichi mobo and an threadripper. various msi testers can do it.

it usually will blue-screen in under ten minutes when i do it

based on that the 4090 with a tdp could pull 450 x 1.5 = 675 and boom death to the plug or jack.
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November 06, 2022, 04:26:06 PM
#30
nvidia had to do many more tests before launching the 4090 on the market, that cable adapter provided for the additional power is not up to the task so there will always be a risk of fire

they could have done two that were feed by two eight pin connectors.

so four into two which would have likely been better.

A brand new connector that already needs to be doubled up on the first GPU to use it would not be acceptable.
The ATX3 connector is supposed to handle 600W so what gives? Is it poor design or can an OCed 4090 draw more, much more to cause melting.
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