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Quote from: coupable on October 16, 2023, 05:05:54 PM

I had a short experience with gambling service providers who asked to pay fees in what amounted to a subscription per month or per week, depending on the type of product. This was very expensive because it was not possible to expect fixed returns, whether per day, per week, or even per month or year. That is, it is in the casino's interest for people to master in-house games and get used to them.

This is the first time I heard a gambler need to pay fee in order to use gambling service provider.
Are you referring to land based casinos or 3rd party online gambling providers such as evolutiongaming, pragmatic, etc?

I believe he was referring to casino software and slot providers.

To clarify: I actually mean slot providers who impose unfair fees on casinos and not on players, as the user understood in the previous comment. I prefer in-house games because the effectiveness of their development can be verified and discussed with the community. In fact, I do not have statistics because such data cannot be obtained, but it is logical that systems that can be proven are the ones that are chosen more often. This certainly does not mean that there is no one who prefers the games provided by slot providers.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 17, 2023, 08:58:17 AM

Quote from: coupable on October 16, 2023, 05:05:54 PM

I had a short experience with gambling service providers who asked to pay fees in what amounted to a subscription per month or per week, depending on the type of product. This was very expensive because it was not possible to expect fixed returns, whether per day, per week, or even per month or year. That is, it is in the casino's interest for people to master in-house games and get used to them.

This is the first time I heard a gambler need to pay fee in order to use gambling service provider.
Are you referring to land based casinos or 3rd party online gambling providers such as evolutiongaming, pragmatic, etc?

I believe he was referring to casino software and slot providers.

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Quote from: coupable on October 16, 2023, 05:05:54 PM

As far as I can imagine, this will be the most important event in the gambling section of the forum. Many users prefer in-house games because they do not trust third-party service providers, who in turn do not reveal development secrets.

Is there any specific study about the how many gamblers prefer to play in house games than 3rd party games?
Or did you say it because you are part of those who prefer in house games than 3rd party games?

Quote from: coupable on October 16, 2023, 05:05:54 PM

I had a short experience with gambling service providers who asked to pay fees in what amounted to a subscription per month or per week, depending on the type of product. This was very expensive because it was not possible to expect fixed returns, whether per day, per week, or even per month or year. That is, it is in the casino's interest for people to master in-house games and get used to them.

This is the first time I heard a gambler need to pay fee in order to use gambling service provider.
Are you referring to land based casinos or 3rd party online gambling providers such as evolutiongaming, pragmatic, etc?
All in all, every type of game has its own player base/fans and we do not know the actual number of players for each type of game (in house and 3rd party).
In fact, there are many gamblers play 3rd party games everyday in many online casinos.

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So, it will be good for Flush if they can announce any timeline because most of the time they failed to keep their promise regarding the development.

The development team has assured us that we can expect some positive updates within this month. That's all I can disclose for now.

As far as I can imagine, this will be the most important event in the gambling section of the forum. Many users prefer in-house games because they do not trust third-party service providers, who in turn do not reveal development secrets.
I had a short experience with gambling service providers who asked to pay fees in what amounted to a subscription per month or per week, depending on the type of product. This was very expensive because it was not possible to expect fixed returns, whether per day, per week, or even per month or year. That is, it is in the casino's interest for people to master in-house games and get used to them.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 10, 2023, 10:46:48 AM

Good thing is that they are still trying to active here in this forum and still trying to interact with any comment in their ANN thread which is good.

We are here to stay longer.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 10, 2023, 10:46:48 AM

Every game has its own fans base, so having both original games and 3rd party games will be better for a gambling business than having one of them only.
Of course having both original and 3rd party games is not enough because the competition in the gambling industry is getting tougher every year so casinos should also provide many other things that can attract players to stay as long as possible.

Building own games is not easy because it relates to provably fairness, security issues too. It's must be built very carefully to avoid security holes that can be exploited by cheaters.

Third party games from big and famous game providers can help a casino to quickly get customers. Because gamblers do not only play games like gamers but also have to balance between cost they spend for playing and earning they receive through playing. So they will aim at familiar games first and games from famous providers are certainly familiar with many gamblers.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on October 09, 2023, 10:38:45 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on October 06, 2023, 11:14:18 AM

Actually it is fine to provide 3rd party games only, many casinos out there has no original games but the main case here is that flush had it in the past and said that they are working to launch it back but it takes so long time.

Yes, it's true that many casinos does not have any original games and they rely on 3rd party games only. I guess developing original games are profitable for the platform because the entire profitability from the in-house games is for their company. I don't know how they share the profits with the 3rd party game providers, but they have to share the commission for sure. Moreover, there are some players who exclusively try original games only. Some others love to play 3rd party games. So, it will be good for Flush if they can announce any timeline because most of the time they failed to keep their promise regarding the development.

Every game has its own fans base, so having both original games and 3rd party games will be better for a gambling business than having one of them only.
Of course having both original and 3rd party games is not enough because the competition in the gambling industry is getting tougher every year so casinos should also provide many other things that can attract players to stay as long as possible.
No offense to flush, they have been here for more than a year but I do not see a significant improvement or progress in the casino.
Good thing is that they are still trying to active here in this forum and still trying to interact with any comment in their ANN thread which is good.

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Quote from: dezoel on October 09, 2023, 08:01:54 AM

So aside from the fact that they promised it, they also removed the in-house games before? But why?

We used to have Flush Original games, but because of certain internal changes, we had to make significant adjustments. This has caused us some difficulties.

Quote from: Shishir99 on October 09, 2023, 10:38:45 AM

So, it will be good for Flush if they can announce any timeline because most of the time they failed to keep their promise regarding the development.

The development team has assured us that we can expect some positive updates within this month. That's all I can disclose for now.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 06, 2023, 11:14:18 AM

Actually it is fine to provide 3rd party games only, many casinos out there has no original games but the main case here is that flush had it in the past and said that they are working to launch it back but it takes so long time.

Yes, it's true that many casinos does not have any original games and they rely on 3rd party games only. I guess developing original games are profitable for the platform because the entire profitability from the in-house games is for their company. I don't know how they share the profits with the 3rd party game providers, but they have to share the commission for sure. Moreover, there are some players who exclusively try original games only. Some others love to play 3rd party games. So, it will be good for Flush if they can announce any timeline because most of the time they failed to keep their promise regarding the development.

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Quote from: FlushCasino on October 07, 2023, 10:29:01 AM

We sincerely apologize for the delay in launching the Flush Original games. Our development team is currently focused on the in-house games, as it is our top priority at the moment. This is the information I received last week.

In most casinos, original games are the ones who came first before they add games which came from the 3rd party providers but it's still nice to hear that you are planning on adding a few of it even though it's kinda bit late now. It's better than nothing at all. There are still lots of people who prefer games from the 3rd party providers so I understand on why you prioritized them.

Quote from: panjul07 on October 06, 2023, 11:14:18 AM

Actually it is fine to provide 3rd party games only, many casinos out there has no original games but the main case here is that flush had it in the past and said that they are working to launch it back but it takes so long time. Back to their original in house game, what I can say here is "dont expect to see it soon", maybe it will come next year since there is no clear update on how far they are working on it.

Ah I see. So aside from the fact that they promised it, they also removed the in-house games before? But why? Maybe only few people got interested on them and they think it only consumes space. Maybe the best thing to do guys is just wait. If ever they add it then great but if not then what can we do? It's their decision.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on October 07, 2023, 11:28:16 AM

They have good number of fans or supporters in the forum though their signature campaign has stopped but they still have fans. They should relaunch the campaign because it makes people/gamblers to be aware in their present.

We have plans for signature campaign, but it's not happening at the moment. We will activate the campaign once we've launched Flush Originals. After that, we will also run exclusive promotional campaigns for Bitcointalk users.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on October 06, 2023, 08:01:10 AM

I am sorry to say that it's kinda disappointing. Flush.com has been here for a long time now and I have checked the thread. It's been a while but the development progress is too slow. Team Flush is supposed to launch some games and rounds here in BitcoinTalk but I assume they did not get enough support from the community. People love to play In-House games and team Flush said they were working on it. Did we see any progress yet from them? I have not even visited their website for a few weeks now and I don't see any update here in their ANN about any update except for the 3rd party provider games.

Everyone has their own way of seen casinos games and one thing I know is that casino can't provide all the games gamblers need in one casino platform. And that make gamblers to register different casinos to play and fun around but from what I see from Flush.com, I think the games are not bad and just that the games you needs are not inserted in the game gallery and as I believed, as you pointed it out again they will look into it in their next addition of games.

You really like to play with them and that is you are more concerned. They have good number of fans or supporters in the forum though their signature campaign has stopped but they still have fans. They should relaunch the campaign because it makes people/gamblers to be aware in their present.

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