Topic: New Hardware or Scam (Read 8673 times)
Right now I would call scam also. Would be nice to see some one smash Bitmains stats though and change the industry!
Actually the timeframe on eligius matches the rented rigs perfect. Of course this is not an evidence for a scam but its still suspicious. I'd like to see 25-35 PH/s or even better some real hands on and reviews.
1 PH/s:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/16811/
0.5 PH/s:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/16071/
There are more rigs rented in this timeframe.
Remember: Buy it, when you see it.(reviewed by some BT-members like dogie and notlist3d)
And: Trust needs to be earned.
1 PH/s:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/16811/
0.5 PH/s:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/16071/
There are more rigs rented in this timeframe.
Remember: Buy it, when you see it.(reviewed by some BT-members like dogie and notlist3d)
And: Trust needs to be earned.
Completely agrees. Also if you see old enough forum reviews at the one tread (like few hundreds of messages including smart & polite seller replies) - and most of forum members showing photos like "Yes! This is me and my miner arrived" it is working too.
Actually the timeframe on eligius matches the rented rigs perfect. Of course this is not an evidence for a scam but its still suspicious. I'd like to see 25-35 PH/s or even better some real hands on and reviews.
1 PH/s:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/16811/
0.5 PH/s:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/16071/
There are more rigs rented in this timeframe.
Remember: Buy it, when you see it.(reviewed by some BT-members like dogie and notlist3d)
And: Trust needs to be earned.
1 PH/s:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/16811/
0.5 PH/s:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/16071/
There are more rigs rented in this timeframe.
Remember: Buy it, when you see it.(reviewed by some BT-members like dogie and notlist3d)
And: Trust needs to be earned.
I noticed in this link that that they included their wallet number in Eligius pool
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
1.7 PH/s, wow. They were stating that they would make 1500 M20 and 500 M10, which is 35PH/s, so they aren't using all units, but what you think? Maybe testing some? This worker started to work at 2 january at stopped, and then restarted at 4 january....no one, with so much Hashes would stop mining, i think (when it is profitable to mine).
What u think?
probably rented on MRR at the EU location:
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/sha256
In some weeks we will see... Specting no delays... if it... 
It smells SCAM since last 6 months...
It smells SCAM since last 6 months...
Don't know....but that user from eligius is with 2.5PH/s, what is strange, he has 16% of the hasrate of eligius xD
If you go to the yesminers gallery section u see this:
http://i.snag.gy/T9Zcr.jpg
With this and the account at eligius reaching 2.5PH/s....maybe scam...but if it is a scam it got a little bit more elaborated that it was...(getting 2.5PH/s to prove is not a scam)
In some weeks we will see... Specting no delays... if it...
It smells SCAM since last 6 months...
It smells SCAM since last 6 months...
I noticed in this link that that they included their wallet number in Eligius pool
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
1.7 PH/s, wow. They were stating that they would make 1500 M20 and 500 M10, which is 35PH/s, so they aren't using all units, but what you think? Maybe testing some? This worker started to work at 2 january at stopped, and then restarted at 4 january....no one, with so much Hashes would stop mining, i think (when it is profitable to mine).
What u think?
Well thats probably all the hashrate they are renting with the pre order money hahahahahah ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ seriously, i vote scam.
Don't believe that they are renting, that would be stupid, renting is not profitable, it was better if they saved the money.... (based on cex.io and hashnet prices). Just if they knew if someone would found the worker and see what he was doing (hashes) would make sense. But as you said from the beggining, if it is scam, who was doing the scam was stupid, using an address from other company, etc, why would they think about that?
I noticed in this link that that they included their wallet number in Eligius pool
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
1.7 PH/s, wow. They were stating that they would make 1500 M20 and 500 M10, which is 35PH/s, so they aren't using all units, but what you think? Maybe testing some? This worker started to work at 2 january at stopped, and then restarted at 4 january....no one, with so much Hashes would stop mining, i think (when it is profitable to mine).
What u think?
Well thats probably all the hashrate they are renting with the pre order money hahahahahah ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ seriously, i vote scam.
I will go with the majority on this and say it is a scam.
Https is a secure way to make sure a company is legit because they pay hundreds of dollars($600+ from what I remember) to obtain that status every year.
Https is a secure way to make sure a company is legit because they pay hundreds of dollars($600+ from what I remember) to obtain that status every year.
I run a (legit) website, and have https (i have very limited personal info to collect, name address, but still https is good). It costs me 1$ for the first year as a promo, and the certificates cost like 15$ a years or less. So its not really a big expense, but there are hurdles and some level of verification.
I noticed in this link that that they included their wallet number in Eligius pool
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
1.7 PH/s, wow. They were stating that they would make 1500 M20 and 500 M10, which is 35PH/s, so they aren't using all units, but what you think? Maybe testing some? This worker started to work at 2 january at stopped, and then restarted at 4 january....no one, with so much Hashes would stop mining, i think (when it is profitable to mine).
What u think?
I noticed in this link that that they included their wallet number in Eligius pool
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades/yesminer-m20-25000ghs-upgrade.html
Check out their stats here
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P9gzKnEgyMRQGaytX28XKeoJRaS9jFwRH
No news, we wait :-)
stay away, there is no proof on anything.
But imho many indications for a scam
I have offered them to sign a NDA, take a look at the prototype and buy the whole batch if I am satisfied.
They refused the offer with strange arguments. You can draw your own conclusions.
But imho many indications for a scam
I have offered them to sign a NDA, take a look at the prototype and buy the whole batch if I am satisfied.
They refused the offer with strange arguments. You can draw your own conclusions.
Preorder+an electronic display for a bitcoin miner, seriously?
Not disputing the scam allegation, but those specific points you note aren't entirely unheard of. Prospero X1 and X3 were also limited pre-order and used small tablets for their displays. Same with the BFL (hehe) Bitforce 500 and I vaguely recall some other model. When they're double-digit cost out of China, it's a slick addition to any miner.
Preorder+an electronic display for a bitcoin miner, seriously?
This is 120% A SCAM
This is 120% A SCAM
I will go with the majority on this and say it is a scam.
Https is a secure way to make sure a company is legit because they pay hundreds of dollars($600+ from what I remember) to obtain that status every year.
Https is a secure way to make sure a company is legit because they pay hundreds of dollars($600+ from what I remember) to obtain that status every year.
You can get a SSL certificate for very cheap. It's really not a good filter criteria for actually trusting a website. Of course NOT having it is certainty a criteria for NOT trusting it.
yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
You do have to be carefull... You can only claim your money back for 180 days (if i remember correctly).
Since it's a pre-order, it might be their trick to keep you hanging for 180 days (with promises, lies, changes,...), untill they chargeback period from paypal is over...
Or it might be a trick to get a free 180-day loan.
Or it might be a fishing expedition for usernames/adresses/...
You CAN charge back after 180 days. You just have to call Paypal up by phone and explain.
Yeah...I am not trying it. I was just saying.
100% SCAM
yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
You do have to be carefull... You can only claim your money back for 180 days (if i remember correctly).
Since it's a pre-order, it might be their trick to keep you hanging for 180 days (with promises, lies, changes,...), untill they chargeback period from paypal is over...
Or it might be a trick to get a free 180-day loan.
Or it might be a fishing expedition for usernames/adresses/...
You CAN charge back after 180 days. You just have to call Paypal up by phone and explain.
EDIT. It is a scam tho.
Dat prediction:
What can possible go wrong?
LOL
What can possible go wrong?
LOL
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