Topic: New Hardware or Scam - page 3. (Read 8673 times)
20TH and 1500watt id say 100000000% scam theirs no miner close to braking 3TH yet without using 1,000watt of energy. We have bitmain with S4+ Hash Rate: 2570GH Power Consumption: 1480W. SO unless they have video footage and working units showing live status with a pool connected to provided by the users and videos showing connecting to pool and configuring units, its sure to be a scam so stay well away from it.
why sell miners the do 0.075 watts a gh?
if they are real you would mine with them.
you would find a data center if your power was too high and mine there.
once you broke them in you would announce a sale of some with perfect proof they work.
So the chance they are real is soooo fucking small it can't be measured.
if they are real you would mine with them.
you would find a data center if your power was too high and mine there.
once you broke them in you would announce a sale of some with perfect proof they work.
So the chance they are real is soooo fucking small it can't be measured.
20 TH/s at 1500W?
There are the scam-dancers all over the page.
Since they're probably trying to hop on the claims of KnCMiner: They're claiming 0.07J/Gh and their tech partner, AlChip, a 5000-core chip running at 800MHz ( http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/7c2c00e3jw1ervfedx421j20t412ttbd.jpg ), which if a 1:1 ratio would give 4Th/s. 4,000Gh/s * 0.07J/Gh = 280W. 20Th/s / 4Th/s = 5 chips. 5 * 280W = 1400W.. add a little extra for support components / a very efficient power supply, and the math roughly checks out.There are the scam-dancers all over the page.
Now, good luck publicly verifying KnC / AlChip's claims
( Just to make clear - in no way intended to legitimize this outfit )
Anything that pops up from a new unheard of vendor at this point is a scam in my eyes. Especially with these numbers.
20 TH/s at 1500W?
There are the scam-dancers all over the page.
There are the scam-dancers all over the page.
I will go with the majority on this and say it is a scam.
Https is a secure way to make sure a company is legit because they pay hundreds of dollars($600+ from what I remember) to obtain that status every year.
Https is a secure way to make sure a company is legit because they pay hundreds of dollars($600+ from what I remember) to obtain that status every year.
This has scam written all over it.
Anyone can create a website and many scams have. You can create your own miner from home in just a few hours. Don't be fooled, companies able to acquire this tech usually have some staking in the community. Spondoolies was an exception to the rule and delivered.
OP is originator of this scam in at least the local german forum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gruppenkauf-yesminer-m10-m20-1125157
i do not speak german but it looks like he is taking orders on these miners.
check his posts. and leave appropriate trust.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gruppenkauf-yesminer-m10-m20-1125157
i do not speak german but it looks like he is taking orders on these miners.
check his posts. and leave appropriate trust.
The name a lone should tell you some thing is not right THE YesMiner Lmao and
Does the KNC version even do 20 th per one miner ? .
I don't know i don't look at KNC stuff to much because I Know we as home miner that do it, would never get one of these if it is even real on our homes brand new unless we know some one.
I saw the same miner in adds some place else but with a diff name one was this forum and one of the exchanges that has a store he was offering to back a loan and all you need to have is a 680 Credit score and buying this on Ebay might tell you something i have yet to see something like this sell on Ebay i would trust them more then this guy , i don't trust them to much either .
And i would think it would cost more then what he is tiring to ripe some one off for if it is real , i would say something like this would sell for closer to 12 K at first but if he can get a few fools at the 5 k price he will make out like a fox in a hen house.
Does the KNC version even do 20 th per one miner ? .
I don't know i don't look at KNC stuff to much because I Know we as home miner that do it, would never get one of these if it is even real on our homes brand new unless we know some one.
I saw the same miner in adds some place else but with a diff name one was this forum and one of the exchanges that has a store he was offering to back a loan and all you need to have is a 680 Credit score and buying this on Ebay might tell you something i have yet to see something like this sell on Ebay i would trust them more then this guy , i don't trust them to much either .
And i would think it would cost more then what he is tiring to ripe some one off for if it is real , i would say something like this would sell for closer to 12 K at first but if he can get a few fools at the 5 k price he will make out like a fox in a hen house.
I agree with Burks, a 4x improvement in efficiency from an unknown company just reeks of scam.
Currently the best efficinetcy available (to the public) is about 0.3 w/gh/s
If someone would be able to make a 0.075 w/gh/s miner, they would seek private investors --> this is a scam
If someone would be able to make a 0.075 w/gh/s miner, they would seek private investors --> this is a scam
Scam. Avoid.
yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
You do have to be carefull... You can only claim your money back for 180 days (if i remember correctly).
Since it's a pre-order, it might be their trick to keep you hanging for 180 days (with promises, lies, changes,...), untill they chargeback period from paypal is over...
Or it might be a trick to get a free 180-day loan.
Or it might be a fishing expedition for usernames/adresses/...
Most likely they will hope some order in BTC, and that they win a few paypal from people waiting to long.
But unknown company... and pre-order. They did not even do a rendering, or prototype. So we can safely say scam.
yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
You do have to be carefull... You can only claim your money back for 180 days (if i remember correctly).
Since it's a pre-order, it might be their trick to keep you hanging for 180 days (with promises, lies, changes,...), untill they chargeback period from paypal is over...
Or it might be a trick to get a free 180-day loan.
Or it might be a fishing expedition for usernames/adresses/...
Agree. All of which makes for a very bad idea.
yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
You do have to be carefull... You can only claim your money back for 180 days (if i remember correctly).
Since it's a pre-order, it might be their trick to keep you hanging for 180 days (with promises, lies, changes,...), untill they chargeback period from paypal is over...
Or it might be a trick to get a free 180-day loan.
Or it might be a fishing expedition for usernames/adresses/...
yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
Pre-Order from a unknow compagny.
No physical evidences (Chips, Devices).
They can send me a unit, I will do a review
No physical evidences (Chips, Devices).
They can send me a unit, I will do a review
Looks a bit fishy... On the positive side: they accept paypal, and they're selling a physical product.
In theory, you should be able to claim your money back if they screw you over???
In theory, you should be able to claim your money back if they screw you over???
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