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February 02, 2014, 05:44:39 AM
Are you DDoSed or something? I am loading blank page, where is the calc?
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February 01, 2014, 11:18:12 PM
Are you DDoSed or something? I am loading blank page, where is the calc?
November 05, 2013, 01:09:59 AM
Looks like the database error is back. It's a really useful calculator, though.
September 08, 2013, 10:47:31 AM
Cool calculator. Thank you
Can you add those new chips/mining rigs that are hitting the market soon and maybe a little chart or table with monthly results.
Cheers!
Can you add those new chips/mining rigs that are hitting the market soon and maybe a little chart or table with monthly results.
Cheers!
August 07, 2013, 12:55:14 PM
Great stuff. Thanks for this!
Sorry if I am a bit unresponsive ATM - real life/work consumes 100% of my time 
Will have some time in one or two weeks (hopefully).
Onkel Paul
Will have some time in one or two weeks (hopefully).Onkel Paul
For completeness sake, would like to see KnCMiner Mars/Mercury/Saturn/Jupiter as options
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We're open for suggestions and improvements!
Hi,
I have one suggestion - now there's possibility to set difficulty increase rate in percent. I think that the difficulty will rise in linear fashion now - the ASIC manufacturers have a constant rate of releasing new devices that depends on their manufacturing capabilities (it doesn't matter if they manufacture them for the customers or for themselves), so the total hashrate will rise linearly (on average). There will be changes in that increase rate - if one of these ASIC companies opens new manufacturing facilities. But it will be still close to linear.
So it would be nice to set daily increase rate (like 1,000,000 increase in difficulty per day). Calculator could suggest the value basing on, say, 7-days average.
P.
I made a few calculations like that the other day. I've copied them below.
I'll make the following assumptions:
I start mining at the very start of a new difficulty round.
The starting difficulty is based on a network hashrate of 500 Th/s.
The network hash rate increases by 100 TH/s each new difficulty round.
This gives us the following data for a 5 Gh/s device:
Network Hash Rate = 500 Th/s, Difficulty = 69849193.0961609, BTC/round = 0.50475000
Network Hash Rate = 600 Th/s, Difficulty = 83819031.7153931, BTC/round = 0.42062500
Network Hash Rate = 700 Th/s, Difficulty = 97788870.3346252, BTC/round = 0.36053571
Network Hash Rate = 800 Th/s, Difficulty = 111758708.953857, BTC/round = 0.31546875
Network Hash Rate = 900 Th/s, Difficulty = 125728547.57309, BTC/round = 0.28041667
Network Hash Rate = 1000 Th/s, Difficulty = 139698386.192322, BTC/round = 0.25237500
That gives a total of 2.13417113 BTC for the 6 difficulty rounds. Since I ordered in April when BTC was at it's high, I'll recoup the cost for the device and make a profit after 4 rounds.
With the network hash rate at 1900 Th/s, I'd be making about the same as what I get now from my 300 Mh/s, which is still profitable.
a 5 ghs at current difficulty, make only 0.13 btc...
The difference is that this calculator does not properly account for the realistic decline in profitability. It assumes a decline factor of 0.61 per year.
The reality is closer to this rate of decline per month.
The reality is closer to this rate of decline per month.
You can easily account for this by changing the 0.61 to any number you like.
I don't want to be a party pooper but this calculator has been around for quite a while:
http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
The difference is that this calculator does not properly account for the realistic decline in profitability. It assumes a decline factor of 0.61 per year.
The reality is closer to this rate of decline per month.
I don't want to be a party pooper but this calculator has been around for quite a while:
http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
Wonderful job! I am so glad that finally someone created a profitability calculator that provides people with a realistic idea of whether they will ever see back their money.
Warmly recommended to everybody!
I disagree.
ASICS manufacturers will increase their manufacturing capabilities if demand stays up. When the chip and board layout are finalized, they can order parts from lots of different producers. The problem with ASICs is not to ramp up and manufacture tons of them, but to do the initial design.
ASICS manufacturers will increase their manufacturing capabilities if demand stays up. When the chip and board layout are finalized, they can order parts from lots of different producers. The problem with ASICs is not to ramp up and manufacture tons of them, but to do the initial design.
I don't think they are interested in demand - they should make miners for themselves. They race with other ASIC manufacturers. So the only limitation is their assembly capabilities. Which they will increase as soon as they can.
Until they reach a point where other "regular" miners are virtually eliminated (1,000 TH/s for each ASIC manufacturer?, 3-5 PH/s total?) - then it would be advisable to form a kind of cartel with other ASIC manufacturers to stop fighting each other, stop manufacturing more miners, wasting money and electicity, divide the market (the total hashing power) equally (or not) and keep mining until 2040
P.
We're open for suggestions and improvements!
I have one suggestion - now there's possibility to set difficulty increase rate in percent. I think that the difficulty will rise in linear fashion now - the ASIC manufacturers have a constant rate of releasing new devices that depends on their manufacturing capabilities (it doesn't matter if they manufacture them for the customers or for themselves), so the total hashrate will rise linearly (on average). There will be changes in that increase rate - if one of these ASIC companies opens new manufacturing facilities. But it will be still close to linear.
I disagree.
ASICS manufacturers will increase their manufacturing capabilities if demand stays up. When the chip and board layout are finalized, they can order parts from lots of different producers. The problem with ASICs is not to ramp up and manufacture tons of them, but to do the initial design.
We're open for suggestions and improvements!
Hi,
I have one suggestion - now there's possibility to set difficulty increase rate in percent. I think that the difficulty will rise in linear fashion now - the ASIC manufacturers have a constant rate of releasing new devices that depends on their manufacturing capabilities (it doesn't matter if they manufacture them for the customers or for themselves), so the total hashrate will rise linearly (on average). There will be changes in that increase rate - if one of these ASIC companies opens new manufacturing facilities. But it will be still close to linear.
So it would be nice to set daily increase rate (like 1,000,000 increase in difficulty per day). Calculator could suggest the value basing on, say, 7-days average.
P.
I made a few calculations like that the other day. I've copied them below.
I'll make the following assumptions:
I start mining at the very start of a new difficulty round.
The starting difficulty is based on a network hashrate of 500 Th/s.
The network hash rate increases by 100 TH/s each new difficulty round.
This gives us the following data for a 5 Gh/s device:
Network Hash Rate = 500 Th/s, Difficulty = 69849193.0961609, BTC/round = 0.50475000
Network Hash Rate = 600 Th/s, Difficulty = 83819031.7153931, BTC/round = 0.42062500
Network Hash Rate = 700 Th/s, Difficulty = 97788870.3346252, BTC/round = 0.36053571
Network Hash Rate = 800 Th/s, Difficulty = 111758708.953857, BTC/round = 0.31546875
Network Hash Rate = 900 Th/s, Difficulty = 125728547.57309, BTC/round = 0.28041667
Network Hash Rate = 1000 Th/s, Difficulty = 139698386.192322, BTC/round = 0.25237500
That gives a total of 2.13417113 BTC for the 6 difficulty rounds. Since I ordered in April when BTC was at it's high, I'll recoup the cost for the device and make a profit after 4 rounds.
With the network hash rate at 1900 Th/s, I'd be making about the same as what I get now from my 300 Mh/s, which is still profitable.
We're open for suggestions and improvements!
Hi,
I have one suggestion - now there's possibility to set difficulty increase rate in percent. I think that the difficulty will rise in linear fashion now - the ASIC manufacturers have a constant rate of releasing new devices that depends on their manufacturing capabilities (it doesn't matter if they manufacture them for the customers or for themselves), so the total hashrate will rise linearly (on average). There will be changes in that increase rate - if one of these ASIC companies opens new manufacturing facilities. But it will be still close to linear.
So it would be nice to set daily increase rate (like 1,000,000 increase in difficulty per day). Calculator could suggest the value basing on, say, 7-days average.
P.
Just a shot in the dark here...
But the most recent jump in difficulty was 20% over 10 days right? roughly i think. when previously it had been going at about 10% over ten days. I might be wrong here so please tell me if i am.
I hypothesize that difficulty increase will DOUBLE every 40 days from now until the market is flooded with ASICs
If we use this as a calculation for the difficulty rate in September we get:
15,000,000 x 1.20 ^ 4 = 31,104,000 (difficulty on 16/06/2013)
31,104,000 x 1.40 ^ 4 = 119,489,126 (difficulty on 26/07/2013)
119,489,126 x 1.80 ^ 4 = 1,254, 349,053 (difficulty on 1/09/2013)
These calculations presume that:
120 days till September
12 lots of 10
every 10 days difficulty increases
every 40 days that increase doubles
I hope i am wrong but at these levels even a 350Ghz miner in September wont really be a profitable ROI, even if the price of BTC was 350 USD
But the most recent jump in difficulty was 20% over 10 days right? roughly i think. when previously it had been going at about 10% over ten days. I might be wrong here so please tell me if i am.
I hypothesize that difficulty increase will DOUBLE every 40 days from now until the market is flooded with ASICs
If we use this as a calculation for the difficulty rate in September we get:
15,000,000 x 1.20 ^ 4 = 31,104,000 (difficulty on 16/06/2013)
31,104,000 x 1.40 ^ 4 = 119,489,126 (difficulty on 26/07/2013)
119,489,126 x 1.80 ^ 4 = 1,254, 349,053 (difficulty on 1/09/2013)
These calculations presume that:
120 days till September
12 lots of 10
every 10 days difficulty increases
every 40 days that increase doubles
I hope i am wrong but at these levels even a 350Ghz miner in September wont really be a profitable ROI, even if the price of BTC was 350 USD
Make " Income/planned time: "
and " ... considering reduction: "
available in BTC.
Don't convert them automatically in USD.
Nice work nonetheless.
and " ... considering reduction: "
available in BTC.
Don't convert them automatically in USD.
Nice work nonetheless.
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