Topic: New Provably Fair site please come and check out LuckyBTCCasino (Read 3389 times)

One should be careful about sites/casino/threads that are too lazy to explain their sites more.

example: No rules, no payout instructions, no game explanations and poor graphic presentation

If they are too lazy to do this, then they are also too lazy to pay you up.

I just want to publicly apologize to espringe I misunderstood your intentions and the tone of your post, and understand how some post may of offended you. After talking privately I understand your very knowledgeable and helpful. 

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The only way that he can cheat is to arrange his cards in such a way that the dealer gets a better hand, correct? He could use a different formula for each client seed so that he could twist the cards every time differently based on the client seed. But if the player would know the formula before the gameplay starts, there would be no way to cheat, would it?

In KENO, he could use a different formula for each client seed so that when you selected your numbers, he will arrange the drawn numbers so that there will be no matches and you will never win. But if he would tell you the KENO formula, he could not cheat, because you would be the last one to influence in a known manner the deck, right?

Now let's suppose that his formula is just ONE for each game and it changes every week. Would you say that it's provably fair then?

I am still waiting for the PM. Make me rich tonight.

Is there any provably fair system that you are NOT doubting?

Give me an example of how he could cheat. The man told you the formula. Explain how he can use the formula that he gave to cheat in a card game.


A champion does not accept the challenge of all challengers. A challenger must climb a ladder to challenge the champion. Same thing here ... if every newbie from a forum would doubt a system just because they can, it would mean to waste 9999999 hours to reply to each and one of them and they will still doubt the system. In this case, espringe, you are doing it out of pure evil. The man game you the formula and it is clear that he cannot cheat if the player can set a client seed AFTER the deck was hashed and sent to the player and if he told you how he uses the client seed to influence the initial deck.

So I can make a profit of 61.749% from his games? That means he has an RTP of 161.749%. Teach me master how you do it (PM ME).

There are many online casinos, owned by utterly rich people that prefer to close their business, declare it bankrupt, rather than paying the money to the lucky player that won 25BTC and become less rich by 25BTC. This happened about 6-7 months ago with a bitcoin casino. The owner closed it due to very large payouts. I can't remember its name. What I want to say is that the proof of funds is completely irrelevant.

to be frank I am not an expert regarding provably fair implementation. I trust Dabs, espringe and dooglus  if they will say that it is provably fair I will accept their opinion.

Hi Elm

Please check the site and Provably fair system before you make your decision.


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if it is not provably fair why should anyone play there? I wouldnt play there

Update x5 roll over on the 'BITCOINTALK1' bonus code has now expired it is now x10 and will now stay at this.

I totally agree with you every Casino should provide proof funds for at least the maximum possible win which on Luckybtccasino.com is 180BTC so if I provide proof of funds for 500BTC would this be acceptable?

Please note 25k btc should not of been possible on that game you should of only been able to bet max 3 numbers on that bet size the bet size has been adjusted in till it is addressed.

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@espringe
IMO provably fair is a must and sure that each casino OP needs to proof his bankroll. but I dont understand why You want to teach/help someone who doesnt want to learn and accept Your opinion? isnt it a waste of time?

Since you used an online calculator to verify the RTP of each selection (http://wizardofodds.com/games/keno/calculator/), it's clear that you have no understanding about what an RTP is and how it is calculated. You can't expect to play a few hundreds of gameplays and then get rich. By your logic, if you didn't make a profit, every casino is a scam. Now don't give me that noob reply with "haha. you're dumb" because we already got it that you have no education and you're just a troll that has no life and messes up with other people's time.

To all readers here: this guy "espringe" is just a troll that has no idea what he is even talking. Someone please explain to him how a provably fair system works, because even if he was provided with tons of links and info, he still doesnt get it. He just calls everyone else dumb.

PS: The man (luckybtccasino) just gave you the formula. What's wrong with you? Need glasses? Go see a doctor if you are blind, but stop trolling on this forum just because you're sad and you have no life.

You say scam you played less than 400 games between you and cashout more btc than you put in because of the small rollover bonus, this doesn't sound like the best scam to me!

the formula that is used now for the card games ... the deck is shuffled, then hashed and sent to player. Then the player sets the client seed and the deck is cut at position X, where X=(client_seed)%50+1 . This can be observed with the open eye by analysing several gameplays and any fool can deduct the formula.

For the keno RTP to settle and match the advertised value, over 10 million gameplays must be played for the RTP to be as advertised. Also each selection has its own RTP. If you selects 10 numbers the RTP can be 97% for example. If he selects only 4 numbers, the RTP can be 99%.Then the avg RTP of all selections will result in the final RTP that is advertised. Any kid that went to the statistics class knows that comparing an avg value of 200 results to an avg value of 20 million results, is like comparing a mouse to a tiger.

If you are smart enough you can calculate the RTP based on the payouts for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 matched numbers. However you need to graduate college with a maths degree to be able to calculate that. So we will see.

If you continue to swear and talk just garbage and also use an offensive language without manners, you will be ignored.

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How is the outcome influenced by the client seed? Is that written somewhere?

If the algorithm that converts (server string + salt + client seed) into a game outcome is secret, then the game isn't provably fair. Because the algorithm could be "we often deliberately pick a result that makes you lose" and the players wouldn't be able to tell.

Wager requirements now x5

Provably fair info is now available on the site.

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Wagering requirements is still 3x

I am waiting for the page for provably fair to be updated should be live by tomorrow.

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Heh.

So what's the wagering requirement now? Is it still 3x or did it increase again?

And where can I find details of your provable fairness? The link at the bottom takes me to a blank page.

Typo but that's a good idea for another site

Is this site really pov fair?

Does that mean they hold the camera while they fuck you?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pov

We will be adding more games as we grow I will put European roulette on the list as you have requested it.

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