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Topic: New Provably Fair site please come and check out LuckyBTCCasino - page 2. (Read 3389 times)

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Are you planning on adding European roulette soon?
The house edge with american roulette is too high imo.

The amount of games on your site is not really high by the way.
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I understand what you are saying

So I guess you now realize the site isn't provably fair. That's fine, it doesn't mean you're cheating -- it just means you're not provably fair.

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but how can we show you the outcome of the hand before you place the bet.

Depends on the game, but most single player games are extremely easy to make provably fair. For instance in my 'heads' vs 'tails' game, to make it provably fair, the only thing I need to demonstrate is that I've predetermined an outcome. (Which I can do via hashing it along with a salt).


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I have forwarded this to my coders to see if the provably fair can be updated in anyway.


It's super easy. For one, if you reveal the function you use to convert the clientSeed and seed to make the "final seed"  (and commit to never changing it) it would appear to make some games (keno is the only one i looked at) provably fair, without compromising security at all (assuming your function was something well designed, like a cryptographic hash)


In the provably fair algorithm, ALL THE HANDS are shuffled and then they are shuffled once more using the client seed, once the hand is set.

This is exactly how the provably fair system works everywhere.

In Heads or Tails, the server will toss the coin, then it will hash+salt it and send it to the player, then the player will send a client seed to influence the coin, and then once all these are set, you will try to guess from HEADS OR TAILS. Of course you have 50% chances to win no matter what, so you might throw in a lucky guess and take my money if you accept my challenge.

Only after the gameplay ends, the server hashed string+salt influenced by the client seed will be compared with the player pick and the outcome will be decided and the salt will be revealed.

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Provably fair can be verified in the game play history  

No they can't. If you think your scheme is fair, then let's play a game of 'heads' or 'tails' using your provably fair scheme. If you correctly guess the outcome, I'll give you 100 BTC, if you lose you have to give me 10 BTC. We can use Dooglus as escrow.

So let's use your exact scheme:


Probably Fair Hashed Shuffle String:   2f35ca84adb6daa7bd2ca1a755bbf6e26caf9f822e6079e8c70e96ae1099b383


And to follow your protocol, you'll need to give you move ('heads' or 'tails') along with your client seed.



And then I'll reveal the final outcome. If you guess correctly you get 100 BTC, if you incorrectly guess you'll have to give me 10. And to make it "provably fair" and follow your scheme i'll reveal my "initial server seed", "salt"  and then of course, the "final seed" (which is derived from an unknown (for security), but deterministic algorithm).



If you are unwilling to play against me (using an escrow of course), I think it's rather hard to argue you casino is provably fair...



I understand what you are saying but how can we show you the outcome of the hand before you place the bet. I have forwarded this to my coders to see if the provably fair can be updated in anyway.

Thanks for taking the time to comment your feedback is what will make the site a top bitcoin casino.

LuckyBTCCasino
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How long for withdrawals? I withdrew a small amount (~0.1) and still haven't got it. Also, BTW, your provably fair scheme isn't even close to provably fair -- it's 100% impossible to verify, by design. The only thing you prove is that you pick a server seed, but then never tell us how it's used (or if it is even used) to determine the game outcome. The scheme you have now would allow you to pick any result you like, and it's impossible for us to know


Edit: withdrawal received

Hi Espringe

withdrawals are manually checked before they are process to check for fraudulent play so this can take up to 8 hours.

Provably fair can be verified in the game play history  
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I'm having some trouble clicking any of the links at the bottom. 

I'm using Google Chrome and it sends me to https://www.luckybtccasino.com/#topmenu which doesn't produce any new content.

Also, I'd recommend changing the title of the thread.  I assume you want it to say 'New Pov Fair site please come and check out LuckyBTCCasino'

Title changed cheers

Thanks for the message we are aware of the problem with the links and are addressing this now.

Cheers
LuckyBTCCasino
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I'm having some trouble clicking any of the links at the bottom. 

I'm using Google Chrome and it sends me to https://www.luckybtccasino.com/#topmenu which doesn't produce any new content.

Also, I'd recommend changing the title of the thread.  I assume you want it to say 'New Pov Fair site please come and check out LuckyBTCCasino'
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The bitcoin payment processor you're using is extraordinarily crappy, giving me a deposit address that's been used extensively

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To complete your checkout, send 0.10000000 BTC to 1LMwZkTRx68Yp94XqAzMUSSWQgjSUkgxDv within 3 hours (make sure you leave enough time to get 2 confirms before the time limit!).


The last thing I want to do is play blockchain analyst to try get a refund when my transaction doesn't confirm in enough time (say bitcoin core doesn't assign any fees). Plus, I'd like to be able to save an address and keep reusing it, not going through the crappy process each time.


I also have a question about the affiliate scheme, if I refer 2 people -- one makes 1 BTC, one loses 1 BTC. How much is my affiliate earnings?




We this payment processor because we don't want to store wallets on our servers because of risk of hackers. If it did not confirm we can check this and credit your account just contact support but this is very unlikely.

You would earn 0.3btc 30%

Thanks
newbie
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Few more concerns. It seems like some of the links dont work on the top and bottom of the site. I cannot find what btc conversion is to your in site "CR" Chips are. Most importantly, i dont see anywhere to actually check if the games are provably fair. 

Links are being worked on now

1btc = 1000cr

If you got to the game use the tab on the side then for prov fair, then go to game play history in your user panel and hit verify Prov Fair.

Thanks
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How many games do you have that was included in your launch?
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Few more concerns. It seems like some of the links dont work on the top and bottom of the site. I cannot find what btc conversion is to your in site "CR" Chips are. Most importantly, i dont see anywhere to actually check if the games are provably fair. 
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That really doesnt leave a whole lot of options to play with then. May I suggest allowing all games and having %10 contribution to games such as roulette and sic-bo. Many casinos do this and seems like it would work out better in the long run by not discluding these players. Just a suggestion.

Thanks for the suggestion we will look in to this!

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That really doesnt leave a whole lot of options to play with then. May I suggest allowing all games and having %10 contribution to games such as roulette and sic-bo. Many casinos do this and seems like it would work out better in the long run by not discluding these players. Just a suggestion.
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"You can earn 3% from the total losses of the players you will refer."
with such offer it will be really hard for you to interest any affiliates, you should increase %.

As we see you have really a lot of work to do more on website as its looks really crude (some banners don't have links, texts goes to much down..

If you are interested in cooperation with our website ( http://bitcoincasino.info/ ) you can add me through skype ( bitcoincasinoinfo ) so we can speak more about further cooperation and advertising of your brand.

Thanks for looking at the site

The Affiliates is 30% the text needs changing.

As for the banners and links a list has been created and the site will be updated shortly.

I have added some credit to your account to test games ect.

I will add you on Skype.

Thanks 
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"You can earn 3% from the total losses of the players you will refer."
with such offer it will be really hard for you to interest any affiliates, you should increase %.

As we see you have really a lot of work to do more on website as its looks really crude (some banners don't have links, texts goes to much down..

If you are interested in cooperation with our website ( http://bitcoincasino.info/ ) you can add me through skype ( bitcoincasinoinfo ) so we can speak more about further cooperation and advertising of your brand.
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site looks pretty good. Im curious about the %100 bonus tho, i didnt see any terms for the bonus. are all games 100% contribution towards the bonus? and X1 rollover is great but raises a bit of a red flag for me, whats to say you wont just run with funds? thanks.

This is the only x1 bonus code on the site just for bitcoin talk and may be removed soon if people just use it to take money out the site without really playing. But the idea is to get people on the site and talking about it plus I do want people to withdraw money so they can see we are not scamming   Smiley

Rollover Banned Games:
BlackJack Classic DELUXE
Cleopatra Giveaway
American Roulette 3D
Bets inside these games DO NOT contribute to the player rollover amount, because there is a high chance that the player can get back a large amount of his bet when he gets even odds (EG: when he FOLDS in card games, he gets back 50% of his bet. When he bets on 1,2,3,4,5,6 in SICBO he gets EVEN ODDS. When he bets on all numbers in Roulette, he gets back 97% of his bet. Meaning that this can be exploited by players to hit their rollover limit.

How can they exploit this? Very simple: they make a small deposit of 1btc, get a bonus of 1btc with rollover limit of 1btc. Then they make a deposit of 1btc, bet once on even odds in SICBO or ROULETTE, and then they unlock the rollover/wagering limit and the bonus, by losing 0$ or maximum 5% of their money.
In Card games, this can be exploited too by FOLDING when the player has almost no chances of winning.

Thanks

LuckyBTCCasino
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ok 1x wager is required but which game counts how much % towards wager , please clear this Smiley
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site looks pretty good. Im curious about the %100 bonus tho, i didnt see any terms for the bonus. are all games 100% contribution towards the bonus? and X1 rollover is great but raises a bit of a red flag for me, whats to say you wont just run with funds? thanks.
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Are there any limitations for the Bonus code? Or are we free to withdraw anytime after depositing?

Hi Calci

1x BONUS AMOUNT must be wagered,
to unlock bonus in account

Thanks


Fair offer.
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Are there any limitations for the Bonus code? Or are we free to withdraw anytime after depositing?

Hi Calci

1x BONUS AMOUNT must be wagered, (NOW CHANGED TO 10X)
to unlock bonus in account

Thanks

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Are there any limitations for the Bonus code? Or are we free to withdraw anytime after depositing?
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