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legendary
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Agreed to some of extent, but how about include them also?
My guess is, more stats will show up when you report enough.

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For example, I want to improve my reporting to have a 100% and my reports are 50% bad. How could I improve it without seeing it?(Just an idea because I would like to report regularly once I bump into one of them)
As the report page says: "Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports."
In other words, it's better to report 10 posts without being 100% sure they're bad, and get 8 of them deleted, than just reporting the one you're absolutely sure about (which means the remaining 7 bad posts aren't deleted).
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Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

Potential reasons could be to prevent users who aren't posting regular enough to complain about their reports not being handled or being marked bad which I expressed my concerns about earlier in the thread. Could also be that users who don't report regular don't need access to the in depth data that the regulars do.

Agreed to some of extent, but how about include them also?
For example, I want to improve my reporting to have a 100% and my reports are 50% bad. How could I improve it without seeing it?(Just an idea because I would like to report regularly once I bump into one of them)
staff
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Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

Potential reasons could be to prevent users who aren't posting regular enough to complain about their reports not being handled or being marked bad which I expressed my concerns about earlier in the thread. Could also be that users who don't report regular don't need access to the in depth data that the regulars do.
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Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

It was a long time ago now but I remember when I first started reporting that my accuracy stayed on 0% for a while. I guess it might be a minimum sample size required to make a percentage relevant.
legendary
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I don't have a report history or the amount which is good, bad or unhandled so I don't think it's ranked based. I've made a very small amount of reports though so I'm guessing the more in depth stats become available once you've reported over a certain amount of posts.

Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

Edit : @thequin & welsh : yeah probably.
hero member
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I don't even have a link to my report history on this account for some reason. I do on my main one but there's obviously nothing there since I haven't needed to report anything in years.

I see that all the homograph attacks I reported are note handled yet. Why is that? Do you need more proof for those?

They take time to look into. It's best to include the link to the post they copied which makes things much easier. Otherwise staff have to spend time searching for it and they can't always be found easy.

I don't have a report history or the amount which is good, bad or unhandled so I don't think it's ranked based. I've made a very small amount of reports though so I'm guessing the more in depth stats become available once you've reported over a certain amount of posts.
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Once I saw this thread a good idea come to my mind . What you guys think about getting points ( Merit ) for every successful report ! would that work ?

I think it will be good incentive for people and  encourage them  to report bad behavior .

It's been discussed, and there's two reasons why it's a bad idea:

1. Easy to abuse. For example, users creating alt accounts, and purposely posting something which would result in a good report.

2. Merits are suppose to be used for rewarding a high quality post. Merits shouldn't be used for anything other than the measure of a users post quality.

Having a clean forum should be enough of an incentive.
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Once I saw this thread a good idea come to my mind . What you guys think about getting points ( Merit ) for every successful report ! would that work ?

I think it will be good incentive for people and  encourage them  to report bad behavior .
legendary
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Finally found a tool to convert the homographs back to Latin without having to change every single homograph manually. Easy and simple to use Wink
https://2cyr.com/?7
Here is how to use it, because it is in Bulgarian.
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Test

Before :
I аgrее, Bitcоin is thе first usеd аnd thе mоst vаluаblе cryptо currеncy sо it is thе king оf this currеnciеs, it hаvе аlsо thе highеst pricе. еTH is thе quееn bеcаusе its cоnsidеrеd thе sеcоnd cryptо currеncy аftеr BTC аnd thе first vаluаblе аltcоin right nоw.

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I agree, Bitcoin is the first used and the most valuable crypto currency so it is the king of this currencies, it have also the highest price. eTH is the queen because its considered the second crypto currency after BTC and the first valuable altcoin right now.

legendary
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Well I said I might be, but I've seen bots copy these posts with the foreign characters which are seemingly the original post, but where are the original posts they copy and pasted from?
That's the annoying part: to find the original, you have to actually type it again by yourself. The last one from iasenko's list for instance came from this:

I think there has to be a fine balance, never say never but with the current trends and plethora of project it makes sense to see some evidence that the team has the capability to deliver what has been promised at least a test Alpha of a product.

Some are more difficult to find: I can only find parts of the text. If a bot combines a homograph attack with copying parts of different posts, it is very difficult to prove plagiarism.
I'd say they should all be banned. Using a homograph attack is enough reason to assume bad intentions.

Thought they might be making composites from several posts by changing sentences around and swapping words etc but notice how they changed hardwallets to imToken and a few other things:


I am using hardwallet to protect most of my holdings,using these hardwallets will prevent you from being attacked by these hackers.They are less vulnerable compare to the app and web wallets that has higher risk and prone to these hackers,hardwallets are the most secured type of cryptocurrency storage.I am using ledger nano s for about 2 years and i dont encountered any problem using it.

I аm utilizing imToken tо prоtеct mоst оf my hоldings,using thеsе imToken will prеvеnt yоu frоm bеing аttаckеd by thеsе hаckеrs.thеy аrе lеss vulnеrаblе cоmpаrе tо thе wеb wаllеts thаt hаs highеr chance аnd prоnе tо thеsе hаckеrs,imToken аrе thе mоst sеcurеd typе оf cryptоcurrеncy stоrаgе.I аm utilizing imToken fоr аbоut 3 yеаrs now аnd I dоnt еncоuntеrеd аny prоblеm utilizing it. Unless you open your security to programmers...

Sneaky bastards.



The red lines are almost the same whilst the green has seemingly been changed quite a bit but is obviously based off the original.
legendary
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It takes a lot of time for me to change back all Cyrillic letters back to Latin in order to search for copy/paste posts. It's easier to detect the homographs.
Damn you're good.

Regarding the new stats, I don't get all pumped up because of the posts I've reported--but this is a nice, new feature.  It's encouraging to know that reported posts are taken seriously enough to make something like this, and maybe it'll motivate new people to report the nonsense they see.  And boy are they ever going to see some nonsense. 

I didn't think my report rate would be anywhere near 99%, but it is.  Then again, I've reported a lot of obvious spam and some reports by what seemed to be bots, and those I'm sure were good reports.  But I've also reported run-of-the-mill shitposts that I wasn't sure mods would agree with, much less take action on.  So keep reporting those shitposts, people.  It'll do the forum some good and probably won't affect your report accuracy all that much.  There isn't much to lose.
hero member
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It's very interesting to see how many if my reports was marked as bad and how many are unhandled. But I'm wondering why my report history page is empty, I don't see any posts there, just stats. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine
I also have an empty reportlist, but I have stopped reporting as soon as my stats has started to decrease.
I'll start to report again and we'll see if my reportlist will show up or not.
Also from now on, we can learn from our reports and have better stats in the end (hopefully).
EDIT: I've reported one, but it only increased the unhandled, no history still
staff
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Well the more resources, the better. (Not sure if the grammar is correct here). In my link I found other similarities too not only the well known RU/BG Cyrillic. There are letters like S J Y etc. I didn't knew were Cyrillic from Ukrainian, Belarusian, Serbian etc. Hope I can make a list as soon as I get to a pc.

That's true. But, yours had what mine had in it, and more. So wasn't any point really. I was also unaware of the different languages usage of Cyrillic.
legendary
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These stats are wonderful. Feedback on reporting does make a difference.
The flip side is that there could be a lot more discussions on specific moderating decisions.
legendary
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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

I thought yours was a better resource, and therefore mine was redundant.  I was going to initially format a table here on the forum but, decided against that  Cheesy

Well the more resources, the better. (Not sure if the grammar is correct here). In my link I found other similarities too not only the well known RU/BG Cyrillic. There are letters like S J Y etc. I didn't knew were Cyrillic from Ukrainian, Belarusian, Serbian etc. Hope I can make a list as soon as I get to a pc.
staff
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Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.

This is the one I use:
http://sites.psu.edu/symbolcodes/languages/europe/cyrillic/cyrillicchart/

@Welsh,   now I saw that you edited it your comment. Why did you remove it now man.

There are more characters see the link I posted, not only the main Cyrillic, like:
CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DZE   Ѕ   &‌#1029;   &‌#x0405;


I thought yours was a better resource, and therefore mine was redundant.  I was going to initially format a table here on the forum but, decided against that  Cheesy
legendary
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Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.
From my other thread:
I can say about the russian alphabet. It has some cyrillic symbols which can be used in a homograph attack.

Lower case (6 identical symbols):
абвгдеёжзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

Upper case (11 identical symbols):
АБВГДЕЁЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ
ABCDEFGHIGKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

Note that the cyrillic symbols are encoded as 2 bytes in UTF-8, therefore:
1) wallet = 6 unicode symbols = 6 bytes in UTF-8
2) wаllеt = 6 unicode symbols  = 8 bytes in UTF-8
legendary
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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(
Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.

This is the one I use:
http://sites.psu.edu/symbolcodes/languages/europe/cyrillic/cyrillicchart/

@Welsh,   now I saw that you edited it your comment. Why did you remove it now man.

There are more characters see the link I posted, not only the main Cyrillic, like:
CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DZE   Ѕ   &‌#1029;   &‌#x0405;

administrator
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Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.
legendary
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Well I said I might be, but I've seen bots copy these posts with the foreign characters which are seemingly the original post, but where are the original posts they copy and pasted from?
That's the annoying part: to find the original, you have to actually type it again by yourself. The last one from iasenko's list for instance came from this:

I think there has to be a fine balance, never say never but with the current trends and plethora of project it makes sense to see some evidence that the team has the capability to deliver what has been promised at least a test Alpha of a product.

Some are more difficult to find: I can only find parts of the text. If a bot combines a homograph attack with copying parts of different posts, it is very difficult to prove plagiarism.
I'd say they should all be banned. Using a homograph attack is enough reason to assume bad intentions.
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